Good aftermarket clutch
#122
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I can def document it as much as possible. We dont want to add too much time to already a long day but pics are a def. Anything in particular you need pics of?
#124
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Yes, My friend and I are doing it using a lift. I also have the manual but like you said, real world expierence is completely better.
I can def document it as much as possible. We dont want to add too much time to already a long day but pics are a def. Anything in particular you need pics of?
I can def document it as much as possible. We dont want to add too much time to already a long day but pics are a def. Anything in particular you need pics of?
Are you dropping the whole engine or supporting it and just dropping the transmission?
I am interested in what needs to be disconnected/removed. Sometimes the manual goes too far.
#128
Three Wheelin'
i used nothing more than, 2 jack stands to sit the car on...another jack stand i shoved underneath the engine (under the oil pan), right before I dropped the subframe..and the jack. nothing fancy...once the subframe was on the ground, and pushed to the side (to the right) to make room for the tranny to drop on the ground...i used my lack to hold the tranny, as I separated it from the motor, and lowered it down with the jack.
installed it the same way...sat the tranny on the jack, pushed it underneath and jacked it up while lining it...then pushed it into place once lined up..... dropped it and installed it by myself (the tranny) . You can do wonders with a hydraulic jack lol
installed it the same way...sat the tranny on the jack, pushed it underneath and jacked it up while lining it...then pushed it into place once lined up..... dropped it and installed it by myself (the tranny) . You can do wonders with a hydraulic jack lol
#129
Three Wheelin'
here, i found my old thread,....a few pics...look at whats holding the motor...and the jack right where the tranny was lowered
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/mt-3rd-gear-failure-fixing-pics-788731/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/mt-3rd-gear-failure-fixing-pics-788731/
#131
Three Wheelin'
well you're gonna drain the tranny, aren't u? unless u plug the shaft holes when u pull the axles....but might as well, put new fluid in. i did both times. u don't have to, but if im gonna drain the fluid, i'll just put a new one in
#134
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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/dropping-6spd-transmission-diy-questions-updated-post-40-a-835916/
Clutch felt good for all 9 miles driven..
forgot to install the pilot bearing so car is parked until i can redo the job. Clutch felt a whole lot better. But once you look at what i had in there, anything would feel better. Waiting for the FSB to redo the job since subframes got to go down anyways.
Clutch felt good for all 9 miles driven..
forgot to install the pilot bearing so car is parked until i can redo the job. Clutch felt a whole lot better. But once you look at what i had in there, anything would feel better. Waiting for the FSB to redo the job since subframes got to go down anyways.
#135
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=835916
Clutch felt good for all 9 miles driven..
forgot to install the pilot bearing so car is parked until i can redo the job. Clutch felt a whole lot better. But once you look at what i had in there, anything would feel better. Waiting for the FSB to redo the job since subframes got to go down anyways.
Clutch felt good for all 9 miles driven..
forgot to install the pilot bearing so car is parked until i can redo the job. Clutch felt a whole lot better. But once you look at what i had in there, anything would feel better. Waiting for the FSB to redo the job since subframes got to go down anyways.
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#137
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Well I got the car back, drove over 40 miles. First impression was not bad at all! Little bit of chatter, but very brief. The pedal feel is a bit stiffer, but ok. Gear shifting is a tad bit harder that before; not sure if more pedal adjustment is needed or not. I can tell that the car picks up alot easier that before (haven't gone over 2k). All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with the feel. 710 miles to go.......
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#138
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Trust me, I made sure I mention that when I dropped it off. These guys are pretty good.
Well I got the car back, drove over 40 miles. First impression was not bad at all! Little bit of chatter, but very brief. The pedal feel is a bit stiffer, but ok. Gear shifting is a tad bit harder that before; not sure if more pedal adjustment is needed or not. I can tell that the car picks up alot easier that before (haven't gone over 2k). All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with the feel. 710 miles to go.......![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Well I got the car back, drove over 40 miles. First impression was not bad at all! Little bit of chatter, but very brief. The pedal feel is a bit stiffer, but ok. Gear shifting is a tad bit harder that before; not sure if more pedal adjustment is needed or not. I can tell that the car picks up alot easier that before (haven't gone over 2k). All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with the feel. 710 miles to go.......
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I had no chatter in my short drive. Might still need some more pedal adjustment.
#145
All motor
I hate both of you.
But seriously, glad to hear you guys got it installed correctly, unlike me. I still can't believe that one small part was overlooked. So frustrating. Especially hearing you say that the car seems to rev much easier; would've surely helped my trap speed.
But I really do hate you
But seriously, glad to hear you guys got it installed correctly, unlike me. I still can't believe that one small part was overlooked. So frustrating. Especially hearing you say that the car seems to rev much easier; would've surely helped my trap speed.
But I really do hate you
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#146
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I hate both of you.
But seriously, glad to hear you guys got it installed correctly, unlike me. I still can't believe that one small part was overlooked. So frustrating. Especially hearing you say that the car seems to rev much easier; would've surely helped my trap speed.
But I really do hate you![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
But seriously, glad to hear you guys got it installed correctly, unlike me. I still can't believe that one small part was overlooked. So frustrating. Especially hearing you say that the car seems to rev much easier; would've surely helped my trap speed.
But I really do hate you
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#147
All motor
Yeah I would hate me too....lol! I went by the shop this morning to check the pedal adjustment, but no difference. I will continue to drive the car during the break-in to see if it will get better. Other than that, so far so good. I can't wait to really get on it. There is definitely a difference!![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Did you both have trouble getting into gear with the car on before you adjusted the pedal?
#150
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Yeah I would hate me too....lol! I went by the shop this morning to check the pedal adjustment, but no difference. I will continue to drive the car during the break-in to see if it will get better. Other than that, so far so good. I can't wait to really get on it. There is definitely a difference!![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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#152
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I cant really elaborate much on ur car, bcs i never saw it, or was around it with the CM clutch..but somehow i think that u could've gotten it to work, given that you had the right parts. I never had to adjust the pedal....maybe bcs i had it adjusted a while back... i believe the way the CM clutch is built, is in a way that it grabs so low, that the allowed pedal travel isn't enough to disengage it fully or is just on the verge, therefore, it needs a very slight adjustment, so more pressure is applied on the PP, thus reaching complete disengagement
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#153
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Adrian, this is exactly how it felt when I was adjusting the pedal. It would feel like I was still slightly engaged when shifting so I kept raising it until it shifted smoothly. And this was with the car on and not moving just clutch in and going thru the gears. The clutch grabs so low that you need to back out the pedal more than what stock would require.
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#154
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Nice. Im still on 9 miles.. and it snowed like 8 inches over here today..
im scared to start the car just to warm her up without the pilot bearing( even though i would start her and drive her to the shop to get the job done lol)
im scared to start the car just to warm her up without the pilot bearing( even though i would start her and drive her to the shop to get the job done lol)
#156
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Ok so after over 300 miles of driving, I still wasn't happy with the shifting. So I took it back to the shop and had them adjust the clutch to what Alex suggested. It feels alot better now, but the engagement is really high though. One thing that concerns me is when the clutch starts to wear down alittle, wouldn't it start slipping? Wouldn't I have to readjust the clutch again?
I just remember on a previous car that I installed an aftermarket clutch. Didn't like the engagement, so I had it readjusted really close to the highest position. Then after a week, it started slipping.
I just remember on a previous car that I installed an aftermarket clutch. Didn't like the engagement, so I had it readjusted really close to the highest position. Then after a week, it started slipping.
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#157
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That makes sense if you've got the clutch adjusted so that the PP is never fully released. As the disc get's thinner with use, the pressure would be reducing over time. That would be bad for the throwout bearing and both the master and slave cylinder.
Maybe CM is selling a PP that just have too much throw for our systems?
Maybe CM is selling a PP that just have too much throw for our systems?
#158
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Glad it feels better adrian. My clutch catches right under half way of the pedal travel and I know I can go lower. How high is yours?
Do what sonnick said, after the breakin period, readjust just to fine tune it to your preferred height and go from there. how's the grab so far?
Do what sonnick said, after the breakin period, readjust just to fine tune it to your preferred height and go from there. how's the grab so far?
#159
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Ok so after over 300 miles of driving, I still wasn't happy with the shifting. So I took it back to the shop and had them adjust the clutch to what Alex suggested. It feels alot better now, but the engagement is really high though. One thing that concerns me is when the clutch starts to wear down alittle, wouldn't it start slipping? Wouldn't I have to readjust the clutch again?
I just remember on a previous car that I installed an aftermarket clutch. Didn't like the engagement, so I had it readjusted really close to the highest position. Then after a week, it started slipping.![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
I just remember on a previous car that I installed an aftermarket clutch. Didn't like the engagement, so I had it readjusted really close to the highest position. Then after a week, it started slipping.
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I wish you all the best with your CM clutch... unfortunately, I will not be purchasing their product in the near future.
#160
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I had my CM FX300 clutch installed little over a year ago (part & labor $1700). I put nearly 21k miles on it and its being replaced this weekend with an OEM set. I'm really disappointed with CM quality. As you stated earlier, having problems shifting smoothly into gears. I had the same exact issue as well. After adjusting the pedal, it fixed the problem. I did experience that once the clutch start to wear, it started slipping. I tried readjusting the pedal, but it didnt make any difference.
I wish you all the best with your CM clutch... unfortunately, I will not be purchasing their product in the near future.
I wish you all the best with your CM clutch... unfortunately, I will not be purchasing their product in the near future.
Did you ever fix your slave cylinder/master cylinder?
Can you take pics of the setup once removed.