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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Flashpro, to get or not

i have a 08 tl type s with xlr8 v2 j pipe and non res quad exhaust, aem v2 cAi and lightwheel pulley. Its been about 2 yrs since the install and now im in limbo to get flashpro and tune it finally. I live in north jersey and yosolo is the big guy around here and would have him dyno tune it, ( or if anyone knows anyone good with acuras in the area) The car seems very slugish in the low rpm, very slugish then once it gets to 4-5000 rpm it kinda pulls then vtec is alright but was jus wondering if flashpro will help out my everyday driving and make the power more instant, since it would be about 1,000$ all said and done

the engine has about 85,000 miles on it

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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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there's lot of threads on this, please search for them in the performance section. they'll have all the details you need/want

quick summary: it's worth it.
tuner recommendation: there's one guy that tunes most of our acura TL cars (PM me if you want his email)...he does the tunes over email and does an amazing job...and i bet it's much cheaper than any dyno tune you would buy.
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 06:56 PM
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In my opinion it's very worth it. It was the missing link to the TL feeling strong and happy. I'd be willing to work out a fair price on my flashpro. I originally thought to keep it all as a package deal on my TL when I sell it, but I know that parting out will be a lot more cost effective for recovering mod costs. PM me if you're interested.
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Ok i pmed you both

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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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Yes sir...
and to clarify, Dom takes what I consider to be a reasonable payment for lifetime support. He's absolutely awesome and you can't go wrong.
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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Sounds to me like you're looking for more low end grunt, which isn't really going to happen with Flashpro. My car got faster after FP (time slip proven, not butt dyno claims) and it's more hyper once in vtec, right up to about 7100-7200, but it's still relatively low on torque under 4700 rpm.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 06:35 AM
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I found the car felt stronger down low...not sure how that would equate to actual torque or hp...
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:45 AM
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Mine def got stronger down low per butt dyno and much more responsive as well across the whole range.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 07:22 PM
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Who did u guys use to tune? How does this whole over the internet tune go? To me a dyno tune seems alot more beneficial.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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Then get a dyno tune.
For email tunes, you have 2 main options. Dom or Vit.

Do your homework, the information is out there. I'm sure you gathered that I'm not in a huge rush to sell because I might be selling it as a package deal with the car. Or I'll part out and flashpro will be listed at a discount, along with an 07 manual ECU...should make for a nice package deal someone would be happy to get.

I'd be glad to answer any of your questions, either way.
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 06:38 AM
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Great mod, but I wouldn't say its the best bang for the buck. I suggest getting an exhaust system, once your modded out then I'd would get it then tune.
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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Def worth doing if you've got other basic bolt on mods done. I've got a TL-S A/T with the common mods and definitely feel the difference in response and all around performance from low end all the way through the power band. Dom is the man! Doing a re-tune once I get my UR pulley and IM spacer installed in a couple weeks!
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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We feel it's one of the best purchases for the TL! It really makes the car more aggressive and changes everything from throttle response, VTEC engagement, rev limiter, and more.

HONDATA Flashpro - Excelerate Performance - European, Exotic and Japanese Performance Specialists!!
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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It's definitely worth it but as mentioned above, you should get an exhaust system first assuming you go get a dyno tune. That way you don't spend $$$ on multiple dyno tunes. But if you roll with Dom as I have, you can tune now, add the exhaust later, and tune again all at a one time cost. I got my Flash Pro early even before I got my first bolt on. I used the stock tuned MAP and the way the car behaved and responded was noticeable but I doubt any ponies gained. But how the car feels everyday is the best gain of all. I got a stock Dyno baseline before I started ordering bolt ons. My 1st stage in bolt ons were RV6 PCD & J-pipe, that's when I started street tuning with Dom. I went on the Dyno a 2nd time so Dom could tune my vtec engagement. I did some pulls without his tune and lost 11whp. Second stage I installed 4 inch intake, 3.7 Intake Manifold, ZDX Throttle-body and Port & Polished Lower Intake Runners. After every bolt on I installed, I got re-tuned I definitely felt the improvements. I didn't get to dyno after those mods because I began to relocate to Florida at the time. I also decided to hold off on a Dyno until I got my exhaust from the Rv6 True Dual exhaust last batch. Last stage in bolt ons I installed UR Lightweight Crank Pulley, P2R Intake Manifold Spacer & Rv6 True Dual Exhaust. I got re-tuned again and went to the Dyno recently and made 268whp / 239wtq. I'm glad overall for what the Flash Pro & Dom's tuning has done for my TL-S Auto. In comparison to other stock TL-S and some modified ones with no tune I have driven and comparison is day & night. So if you're looking for overall driveability, throttle response, and some power boost, Flash Pro is definitely worth it. If you can get one used you save a few dollars as well. I will upload some more videos later including the last dyno session I had and possibly some graphs. I have also uploaded some earlier graphs in this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p.../#post15445510

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Mods:

-3.7 SH-AWD Intake Manifold
-ZDX Throttle Body
-PNP Lower Intake Runners
-P2R Intake Manifold Spacer w/ Thermal Gaskets
-Rv6 v3 PreCat Deletes
-Rv6 v3 Jpipe
-Rv6 v3 True Dual Catback Quad Exhaust
-UR Lightweight Pulley
-Throttle Body Coolant Bypass
-4-inch Cold Air Intake
-Hondata FlashPro (Hondata Tuned by DomGSR-T)

Ground Z3R0: First Rev w/ Rv6 True Dual Quad Exhaust [Final Batch] 2008 Acura TL Type S 5AT - YouTube

Ground Z3R0: Second Rev w/ Rv6 True Dual Quad Exhaust [Final Batch] 2008 Acura TL Type S 5AT - YouTube

Ground Z3R0: Burnout w/ Rv6 True Dual Quad Exhaust [Final Batch] 2008 Acura TL Type S 5AT - YouTube

Ground Z3R0: 3rd Gear WOT Pull & 1st-3rd Street Pull 2008 Acura TL Type S 5AT Fully Bolted & Tuned - YouTube

Ground Z3R0: Fully Bolted & Tuned 5AT Acura TL Type S vs 2007 VW GTI Stock Turbo - YouTube
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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As promised here are the DYNO videos and also a graph which includes Stock Dyno, Dyno with PCDs/Jpipe/4inch Intake/Dom's Tune and Dyno with Full Bolt Ons & Dom's Tune.



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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 07:47 PM
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Nice!
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
Nice!
Really? this is quite bad actually! what the hell is going on before 5k? no power/torque? Have you log that dyno run with the flashpro? I want to see what happen so please send that log and current map? what was the gear used for all the tests? Did you used you heavy flintstones wheels on all the tests?
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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Lol at Dom. Don't panic those were old runs before you started tuning to now. I didn't datalog that last dyno
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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I sent you 2 emails Dom
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:59 PM
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Ok I get it now the run that was chosen as the ''best'' run to use as a comparison graph was the one with the most whp but that run was not WOT all the way, only at the end. If you look at the 0:40 mark of the first video we can see that the other runs were ok... flat torque line compares to the one used for the max whp comparison...

If you could go back to the shop and ask for a graph reprint and use run number 002 vs the 005 that was use it that graph. It would be better
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 06:32 AM
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^^^and that's why Dom is the effin Man.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 07:00 AM
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I have all the run files so I guess it's me who used the wrong run for comparison. When I get home I'll do another graph
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:28 AM
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Guys, OP has an exhaust, j pipe, v2 and pulley. Read the damn thread man.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 09:57 AM
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lol wut?
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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Much better Dom?


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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
lol wut?
Mrking and duronn were saying he should get an exhaust first, he already has one.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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yeah exactly learn 2 read!
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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I don't call a "non resonated quad exhaust" an "after market exhaust." He could have modified it, so I'm going to assume OP has a stock quad TL-S exhaust system that he modified until he clarifies.

I did read, maybe more clearly than you

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Mrking and duronn were saying he should get an exhaust first, he already has one.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mrkingstonvi
Much better Dom?


yes! this is much better another great test would have been to use the stock map vs the current map to see how tuning helped your car. I did it for my car and it showed great gains
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 12:16 AM
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Dom I owe you another log this weekend been out of town for a while!
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DomGSR-T
yes! this is much better another great test would have been to use the stock map vs the current map to see how tuning helped your car. I did it for my car and it showed great gains
I will next time. Next Dyno session will be before the end of the month. Within the last week I changed Spark plugs and 3rd/4th gear pressure switches. (Switches got rid of the 3rd gear lockout in WOT I was having and so far some slightly quicker shifts in Sport Shift mode Video difference below) Up next is AMSOIL Motor and Tranny Oil/Filter change. Do you still want me to datalog the 3rd gear WOT as requested?

Sorry OP for straying your thread a lil off topic but all in all I personally believe Hondata Flash Pro is worth it. Driving an improved drive-ability, better throttle responsive, knock free TL/TL-S is worth it. If you are looking at Flash Pro as "just a power adder" then I do believe it's not what you're looking for. I love how my 08 Auto TL-S performs and I don't regret buying a Flash Pro. With great tuners like Dom who knows these cars, you can find confidence in your car being in good hands with their tuning! After you get it and get tuned you are gonna ask yourself why you didn't get it sooner



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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Duronn
I don't call a "non resonated quad exhaust" an "after market exhaust." He could have modified it, so I'm going to assume OP has a stock quad TL-S exhaust system that he modified until he clarifies.

I did read, maybe more clearly than you
You "clearly" missed the part where he says it's an XLR8 exhaust...

I win

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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 09:25 PM
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RE: flashpro tune

Originally Posted by sockr1
there's lot of threads on this, please search for them in the performance section. they'll have all the details you need/want

quick summary: it's worth it.
tuner recommendation: there's one guy that tunes most of our acura TL cars (PM me if you want his email)...he does the tunes over email and does an amazing job...and i bet it's much cheaper than any dyno tune you would buy.
Is that guy still in business? I'd like his email, idk how to pm on here. Thanks
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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Is that guy still in business? I'd like his email, idk how to pm on here. Thanks
If you're interested I have a separate guy (from Facebook) who does e-tunes.

He tracks his car quite religiously, is a certified tech, and knows his shit.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 09:48 PM
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Is that guy still in business? I'd like his email, idk how to pm on here. Thanks
he still does tunes but I don’t want to give his email address publicly. Send me a pm or hit me up on IG ortizee_type.s
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Old Jun 12, 2022 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by o4Komodo
If you're interested I have a separate guy (from Facebook) who does e-tunes.

He tracks his car quite religiously, is a certified tech, and knows his shit.
yeah i’d be interested in that as well. hmu at martinbakescakes on IG idk how to pm on here, too confusing
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Old Jun 20, 2022 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor_Raiden
Is that guy still in business? I'd like his email, idk how to pm on here. Thanks
Just PM me sir
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