I wanted to know if anybody has tried to put on a TSX Cusco strut bar on there 04+ TL?

From the looks of it, it looks like it will fit:

This is bklynpanman's car with the greddy strut bar and he is using a extra top hat


This is CCColtsicehockey's TSX with the Cusco strut bar


I think if we add another top hat, it looks like it will fit.

So, I wanna know, do you guys think it will be long enough to go over the engine? Or do you guys think it will be short? I apperciate your feedback

thanks

 

You can fabricate a new top hat to work but why bother, you wont see a difference over the factory strut bar. Thunder hill TL ran the stock bar.

 

I think the main reason for changing the strut bar is to fit the EDFC on the Tein SS coilovers.

 

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that and to be different from the other TL's on the forums because he could be running out of mods to do

 

Thats correct, I just bought some Tein SS's with the EDFC and I want to get a strut bar that looks like it will do the job and look cool. Im not saying that the Greddy one does not look cool, but I think the Cusco looks even cooler

But, what do you guys think, will it be long enough?

 

I personally haven't seen it installed on the TSX. Do you have a link to wear it is sold to see the dimensions? I admit it does look hot. Better than the Greddy one IMO

 

I think our sponsors sell them, I will talk with Mr.HeelToe and Excelerate to see what the dimensions are. Hopefully they will e long enough

 

I have a greddy bar in stock and I am getting a Cusco bar next week. I will compare the two!

Marcus

 

hey, Marcus, so nice of u to drop in,. Im also very interested to see which bar will fit w/ the tein ss/edfc setup. Please let us know. thanks.

 

this looks awful. really. i think that's what we call going a step backwards.

 

hopfully it fit. ... ill be interested in a cusco strut bar.. it does look ALOT better than the greddy one

 

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Hopefully it will be long enough

 

looks good with the plastic covering it.. step backwords? go fu8#ck yourself

 

what was that for?

 

The connection from the Greddy strut bar to the shock towers is not very good, it will not be able to resist much twisting moment with that type of connection. The connection from the Cusco bar is much more structurally sound and it just so happens to look much better too. form follows function

 

exactly! It's a downgrade from the stock one. It's pretty obvious.

 

exactly my resons for my post.

 

I'm not so sure the TSX strut bar will fit on the TL.

Otherwise I can assure you I would have already had that cusco bar underneath my hood.

 

Yea, but you can use the EDFC with it, and it is going to be significantly better than nothing.

Keep in mind, the only reason to go with this brace is to allow EDFC use.

 

Jdm5lughatch and accuratein did a little brainstorming back in the beginning of the year and figured out the 03+ Accord and TL share the same chassis, hence the same distance from strut to strut.

panman was the first to install the greddy bar.

accuratein was the second.

The greddy bar works great, and my windshield hasnt cracked ever since.

 

so did anyone try the DC sports one. I think that one had been talked about before but don't remember the conclusion....i think it is like the CS2...

 

http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=570

 

Two more from Motorex

http://www.motorexonline.com/images/Accord-7.JPG

http://www.motorexonline.com/images/Accord.JPG

 

do you have the greddy setup? than how can you come off making comments on the rigidity of the bar? have you driven a Tl with the bar? If not, which I assume to be the case, I would hold back on making those comments.. Just ask the many people on this board who have this setup, before you make your baseless comments..

 

Hmmm, I can get that one...

 

i actually don't have the setup either, but just from lookin' at how it's mounted, i don't feel safe with it. It's only mounted on 2 bolts, whereas the cusco strut is mounted on what looks like 4 or 5 bolts. Also, the cusco mount surrounds the entire top hat.

I'm sure the Greddy setup works fine, which is why a few of you out there have it. However, to be on the safe side, i think most of us want something that is "beefier."

 

Any update on the bar

 

cleancl, I've seen alot of your posts. Nothing but respect but, I have to side w/ panman and say, dont be an @sshole!!! You don't have one, so how do you know? Also, there is plenty of strut-tower bars that only mount @ a few points. If you don't like it, say so- Don't tell a man he fucked up though, bro!

As always, flame away!!! :silvermad

 

i dont remember anyone sayin that he "F'd" up...he just stated that in his opinion it seem to be a downgrade. The thing is that Accords dont come with them from the factory, from what i remember on mine, so in that case it is an upgrade. But the TL comes with a really nice one from the factory so

stock accord< stock accord+ greddy strut< stock TL > TL + accord greddy strutbar

IMO

 

No to your first two questions, but as for my comments, I am more than qualified to discuss the structural capabilities of the method in which the bar is attached. And clearly the cusco mount is obviously superior. That being said, just purely on cosmetics alone I would choose the Cusco mounting method.

But anyhow.....to begin with there is not alot of twisting moment being resisted by these bars, they are designed to work mainly in tension/compression and with the through bolt nuckles on both bars I would say they are both pretty equal in that regard. But, there will be some flex and twisting occuring when the chassis is pushed hard and this is where the cusco attachment will perform better. Unless you are a professional driver on a controlled course I doubt that any of us would be able to percieve a difference.

And no one told him that he f#cked up, he responded to someones comment that it was a backwards step with the f-bomb. actually i would say that either of these bars with the through bolt nuckle setup is a step backwards from the stock bar in terms of structural integrity

 

here is why i will always purchase/use a 1 piece bar over a multi-piece bar:



nuf said.

 

And that is precisely why I stated that either of these bars is less structurally sound than the one piece stock setup

 

unless you are road racing.. not going to be a factor.. greddy bar isn't used for rigidity or looks.. it's used to be able to adjust the dampening of the suspension and the edfc..

 

imo, i like the bar the appears in your avatar, its a neuspeed? which model number?

 

not sure the model #.. it's an accord bar.. had to make the holes a bit bigger and bend it a bit.. doesn't flex like the greddy bar does..

 

Ok, that has nothing to do with one piece versus multi-piece. The top bar is flexing because it is made of shitty aluminum and the lower brace is made of tubular steel. Also, if the nuts on the ends are not tight it is going to exaggerate the bending. When the car is in the car it is tight. That is a biased pair of pics if there is no explaination provided.

Add this to the fact that the direction of force is totally wrong there. The forces a strut brace resists are tension and compression forces, and this pictorial only speaks to normal forces perpendicular to the bar. Forces which a strut brace will never need to stand up against.

Both bars are probably adequitely strong when used for strut braces.

Marcus

 

if your talking basic physics, take a plastic ruler, put each end in your palm, and press your palms together as if you were clapping... where does the ruler bend? it goes up / down. i think the above is a very basic test to the strength of the bars. if you prefer to go with the multi piece bars and you firmly believe they are equally as strong as one piece, go right ahead, but that clearly shows your lacking of knowledge in the subject.

this guy somewhat cursed me out about my remarks of the greddy bar looking painfully unstable/ineffecient, here is his response to my questions about the neuspeed ONE PIECE bar he know runs...

i think greddy and cusco are very good companies too, if those are your only options, they are not really poor options by any means, BUT i have personally experienced flexing with the cusco bar, i know this for a fact. these companies make most of their bars somewhat universal to cut costs. its just a fact of life.

 

You also have to take into account that one of those is a no name brand aluminum knock-off ebay bar and the other is a neuspeed steel bar. Of course there is going to be a difference in ridgidity to an extent.


Also, as an FYI Greddy imports Cusco to the US or at least they used to. Hence the reason the color and designs are similar yet differ slightly. I believe Cusco makes the Greddy bars to their specs.

Cusco makes a top notch product. You can tell a difference when you remove the bars after driving with them on for several months.

Anyways all these bars have nothing on Carbing or Rigid (not sure if Rigid is still even around in japan) and that's that.

edit: I didn't see Marcu had already critiqued the pic as well.

 

holy cow

From asking people if the Cusco Bar will fit to this^
Any thing is possible here at AZine

 

That makes no sense........ you had to remove the stock bar in order to install the EDFC to adjust the dampening of your shocks, once that has been done if you were not for wanting to replace the structural rigidity that was removed there would be no reason to install another bar. This new bar allows you to do both, or you could just leave it off if you were not using it for structural or cosmetic reasons.