Hey guys,

I need to replace my rotors and pads on my 2004 Base AT and would like to take this opportunity to upgrade. This is my daily driver and really don't push the car to it's limits, that being said I do enjoy some spirited driving and should have the braking power to match.
I can't justify a huge expense for the brakes, but I was looking into the Fastbrakes Wilwood front brake kit.
"Brake kit features 12.6" 1 Piece slotted and dimpled rotors, Wilwood Superlite Forged 4 Piston calipers, performance pads, mounting brackets, and braided steel brake lines"
Does anyone here have this kit? What are your experiences?
Any other recommendations (similar price)

Thanks in advance

 

not many people have this setup, but i have seen one or two. i have heard no bad reviews though. from what i have seen this is one of the cheaper setups for a BBK...but wait for others to chime in.

i just upgraded rotors and pads to a RacingBrake setup with their ET500 pads. Very nice upgrade for a fraction of a BBK setup. Its a huge improvement over the stock pads and rotors

 

nic has them on his CL. nbennettksu. i would get a bbk. get some aggressive pads and rotors

 

Do you find this set-up effective with the stock calipers? Keep in mind I have the Base TL and not the better Brembos.
What if I went with the rotors and pads now and added the calipers at a later date, is that doable?

Thanks

 

Sorry, the rotors and pads that work with the stock calipers will not work with a BBK.

 

pm excelerate about the fastbrakes kit

 

as TL Advanced mentioned, these components are not interchangeable. and i too have the AT setup, so no Brembos here either. i find this setup to be great, and even though i dont race i still brake hard and make sure they are pushed so i know just how much they can take....and its a good deal. now if you plan on racing, or doing a lot of high speed mountain driving you may want to upgrade everything, but i really see no need, at least for me. BBKs look great, but for a fraction of the cost you can have some nice looking components, and much improved stopping power. my car came with stock rotors but the upgraded aspec pads, which worked great, but i was sick of the rusting and just wanted a little upgrade. now i will say this, they wont be better at first, they take some time to break in, but once they do you will only want to postpone all stops till right at the last moment. i freak out some of my friends some time but i know my system and if i need i can stop very fast.

 

anyone got any pics of the wilwood bbk installed?

 

I have been debatng getting the Wilwood kit too, the price is good and its a bbk. However, there are a few issues that I have with Wilwood. The biggest issue I have is that Wilwood doesn't offer a rear kit which will make the car look odd (to me) with a bbk up front and stock caliper/rotors in the back. Although you could replace the rear rotor with a Rotora OEM replacement drilled/slotted rotor (which is what I was thinking about doing), but still, it looks kind of weird with the stock caliper in the rear and bbk up front. Long story short I'm thinking of going with replacing all of the rotors with the Rotora OEM replacement drilled/slotted rotors until I can get enough money (and guts) to drop the dough on a front/rear Rotora BBK. Good luck with whatever setup you decide on.

 

^^barely anyone rolls with the full front and rear bbk setup on our cars because the rears are massively expensive because of the handbrake integration. not to mention that a rear bbk is not much more functional than the ugly stock calipers since the fronts do the majority of the braking work.

uhh not worth the money. even a ton of other brands of modded cars only roll with front bbk kits or just the factory bbk. it's too much money on top of custom wheels, exhaust, etc. for most ppl. rotora and stoptech fronts look great though.

 

Yea, thats the dilemma I'm in. The Rotora Front/Rear BBK would give the brakes a uniform look but the cost of the front and rear is stupid expensive and I can't justify spending that much on brakes, especially for looks. Plus I would rather spend the money elsewhere ie exhaust system, better rims, etc. Man, it would look sweet having a full Rotora BBK though...someday I guess.

 

Great kit, I got mine through heeltoe. Just a heads up, the nuts and bolts that come with the kit are 2 threads too long for the kit, make a trip to Lowes and spend the $10 on grade 8 hardware. Be sure to follow Fastbrakes torque specs and DO NOT overtighten bleeders, they are really really soft. Kit is great for the price though. You don't get the flash of a red or blue caliper but the performance is definitely there.

 

Looks good! How much was Heeltoe charging for that kit? I know Excelerate is charging $775 for it. What is the offset/size of your rims?

 

Im pretty sure thats what I paid through Heeltoe as well, they are 18x8 +40

 

Thanks for the pics and the warning about the nuts. I like look. I believe the calipers are available in red, but I don't think it's worth the extra $150.
What are you running on the rears?

 

damn those are some clean rotors on that kit

$775 is not bad at all really... only thing that will hurt you is the tarrifs

 

It looks like the pad is not making contact with the entire rotor??? can someone explain the point of making the rotor that large if half won't be used?

 

You're right. Buying from the US and having it shipped over sucks big time. There may be a way for me to have it shipped to Buffalo then I'll drive down and pick it up, but round trip will cost $50+ in gas so I have to figure out the breaking point in order for it to be worth the drive.

 

luda, that pic was taken a few hours after install, the pads had not had the chance to bed in yet

 

any more shots?

 

Did you need a spacer to make them clear? The specs on my rims are 19x8 +43 and I'm not sure if I need a spacer or not, can anyone chime in on some info? Thanks!

 

no spacer needed

 

I'm not 100% sure of this answer, but I think the real advantage of the BBK isn't that there's more radius of rotor to clamp, it's that there's more circumfrence of rotor to clamp. Example as follows:

Lets say the pads have to contact the rotor for 30 feet (360") for the car to stop (I'm pulling this number out of my ass.)

The edge of a 10" diameter rotor is 31.4" around, so the wheel would rotate 11.46 times until the car stopped. On a 13" rotor, the edge is 40.8" around, so the wheel would rotate 8.82 times until it stops.

Now that's if bothcalipers were exerting the same force with the same pads, etc. Now add in that the BBK is 4 piston vs. 1 piston, so more force is exerted on the rotor, so that 30 feet of rubbing needed to stop the car now becomes say 20 feet (240 inches), and that 8.82 rotations becomes 5.88 rotations.

I hope that made sense. It did in my head...LOL

Again, all of these numbers are purely for example.

 

the reason why they "appear" not to be making contact is because it is a single piece rotor...

on 2 piece the area that is untouched is where the bolts are located

but yea not being bedded in will also yield that look lol

 

Everything is bedded in now, took up a little more rotor but nothing really noticeable, stillhere is dead on it, the 2 piece rotors are the different and why it looks this way. Advantage to the two piece is that it's usually lighter but you also double the price, this kit is a tad heavier than your rotora, brembo, PMu kits but nothing that is going to be significant on a street car other than cosmetics.

 

Thanks for the input.
Acuraholic, have you had a chance to test the brakes? how would you compare the performance over stock?

Thanks

 

Difference between these and stock is night and day. Firmer pedal and if you stand on it it they like to throw your significant others on the dash! Seriously a good product!

 

That's perfect!
Thank you for the feedback