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Old 08-09-2016, 10:09 AM
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Lol you guys are crazy lol. The rfl bov get chatter. The piston bounce around during high vacuum. Adding more washer creates surge at low rpm part throttle. Should have bought a synapse bov
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Lol you guys are crazy lol. The rfl bov get chatter. The piston bounce around during high vacuum. Adding more washer creates surge at low rpm part throttle. Should have bought a synapse bov
I purchased Tial wastegates and BOV then never looked back. Exceptional style, performance, reliability and sound (BOV). Gotta say though, I'm scared shitless of the lines popping off so they were all converted to AN fittings. Having your motor rely on puny little zip ties in a 190*+ environment is really asking for it. Now if I could just do the same on my 100% meth injection setup before one pops off and burn my damn car down! Lol

Whats up with this damn forum lately! I haven't seen any excitement in here for years now. Pretty soon the 3G section will be like the long lost 2G section. I've been having to get my fix on other forums as I can't deal with the boredom here anymore. Where are all the boosted guys at dammit!!?? And if you're not boosted, throw a turbo on that shit already!
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:03 AM
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I stopped posting because I felt like I'm talking to myself with post after post with no comments. Also the performance section is being taken over by auto drag race and other "best $30 mod" threads. With the car selling for $3500, no one is dropping $35k for some real power.
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I agree the section has been pretty slow, need to watch Andy's stuff, looks like he's installed them on a few peoples rides but you don't see those people on here.

I am currently building my Integra... wayy cheaper to mod compared to the TL, Sleeved 84mm GSR - with a Rotrex

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Lol I agree with all of the above. If people can't afford to buy an 100 dollar intake they shouldn't be modding.

Pretty sure the car is capable of low 13 or high 12's now when it hooks up.

Also not looking forward to the 4 hour drive on Saturday morning to get that dyno. Might be loner due to road construction. More than likely I am going to stay the night there. The things we do for a race car.

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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I stopped posting because I felt like I'm talking to myself with post after post with no comments. Also the performance section is being taken over by auto drag race and other "best $30 mod" threads. With the car selling for $3500, no one is dropping $35k for some real power.
Don't feel that way! I'm a big lurker and I like seeing the progress, and the different routes people take. I can't bring myself to make useless posts on every thread just for the sake of upping my post count though. Keep posting!
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Lol I agree with all of the above. If people can't afford to buy an 100 dollar intake they shouldn't be modding.

Pretty sure the car is capable of low 13 or high 12's now when it hooks up.

Also not looking forward to the 4 hour drive on Saturday morning to get that dyno. Might be loner due to road construction. More than likely I am going to stay the night there. The things we do for a race car.

Why do we do it? BECAUSE RACE CAR BABY!

That's crazy talk man. That's an entire days time plus 8 hours round trip! I would understand if you were going for a full tune session but just for some numbers, you are a much more curious man than I am. I've been running this motor at 16lbs now for some time and I've cared zero times about how many ponies she kicks out just as long as I'm having fun and winning races.

And to anyone that's as sick of the forum activity as I am, let's keep it going...even if we have to flood this guys thread. Haha, jk. I too am guilty as I haven't typed a single letter in my build thread for months now but I'm still just as active.

In fact, as an update, since running e85 I've seen literally ZERO knock counts and I'm starting to get a little bored since I don't feel like it's a challenge anymore with my car. I've proceeded to send my block and rotating assembly to a reputable machine shop to get balancing sorted out so that I can build a stronger base and hopefully test the limits of this thing! My 6262 is supposed to be 675hp capable and I'm planning on pushing that fucker beyond its efficiency zone. Lmao
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Originally Posted by yungone501
Why do we do it? BECAUSE RACE CAR BABY!

That's crazy talk man. That's an entire days time plus 8 hours round trip! I would understand if you were going for a full tune session but just for some numbers, you are a much more curious man than I am. I've been running this motor at 16lbs now for some time and I've cared zero times about how many ponies she kicks out just as long as I'm having fun and winning races.

And to anyone that's as sick of the forum activity as I am, let's keep it going...even if we have to flood this guys thread. Haha, jk. I too am guilty as I haven't typed a single letter in my build thread for months now but I'm still just as active.

In fact, as an update, since running e85 I've seen literally ZERO knock counts and I'm starting to get a little bored since I don't feel like it's a challenge anymore with my car. I've proceeded to send my block and rotating assembly to a reputable machine shop to get balancing sorted out so that I can build a stronger base and hopefully test the limits of this thing! My 6262 is supposed to be 675hp capable and I'm planning on pushing that fucker beyond its efficiency zone. Lmao
Turn it up! There is a guy with an A2 on the J FB page running 29psi on a GT35 running 150 in the 1/4. Woot.
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I am going for a full dyno tune. Lol
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tuning tomorrow . Wish me luck.
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
tuning tomorrow . Wish me luck.
Can't wait to see the results!
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Going to be posting up videos, pic, and dyno chart later today.
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Soooo..... I didn't make 350whp.....































I MADE 390WHP and 333wtq instead. in 93*F and 85% humidity. stock j30a5 bottom end with J35a8 PnP cylinder heads. Running HFPC and water/meth to save my ass.


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Dom mapping vs dyno tune. (I did ask Derek to tone down the boost. So instead of 8.5 psi with Dom tune making 390whp. The car is around 380whp @ 7.5 psi) I also removed the boost controller because the car was making way too much power and hitting 90% injector duty cycle. Derek did mention that the AFR between what the car read and what his sensor read were a little skewed.

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I also compared my N/A bolt on sheet vs boosted (I will post later when I get stable wifi)
I also compared my Turbo 3.0 vs Shane turbo J35 and the J35 made 100+ wtq over mine. So I can't really complain.

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Should just boost the damn RL
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Awesome! Time to start saving for some pistons and rods and turn it up to 25+ PSI!
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Great job man, woot!

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25 psi will be in the 900 WHP range. Might go there for salt flat action, can't see much over 200 mph without body panel lost for the TL..
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looking good IMW for the win
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Very happy with your results Ken!!! so now I think Etuning seems to work, I might consider it in the future :P
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
looking good IMW for the win
Yup we were talking a out your son build and possible reason why his to loves to kill piston. Suprisingly Derek does follow a lot of stuff on here, but is a ninja.
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Nice numbers! Enjoy the power with reliability!
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Other video. Now I can pick up grocery very fast


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Fixed some of the graph so that you guys dont' break your necks trying to read it

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look at the delta for gains.
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Shayne Dyno on his 3.5 vs my 3.0... Damn no replacement for displacement indeed.


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Awesome! All the hard work and long nights finally paid dividends! Enjoy your beast of an Accord and drive safe with all that power.
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
looking good IMW for the win

+1

Even using an alcohol fuel such as e85, I've made some pretty nice gains in power by adding WMI. By testing multiple mixtures from pure water, to various water/meth percentages, to pure methanol now, I've learned a great deal about how these motors (motors in general you could say) respond in many aspects. Water gave me fair IAT cooling with low power through increased timing. This response remained up until a 30/70 water/meth mixture and began to see nearly double the IAT drop, about 1-2 degrees more timing with the ability to trim AFR down to flat 12's and produce great power by decreased elapsed times on WOT pulls. Then the biggest result was straight methanol. I seen massive IAT drops, an average of 2.5 degrees of timing added (from pre-WMI map), ability to remain 12's in AFR, and even more time trimmed (power gained) off of WOT pulls. After concluding my own tests, I'll never again inject water alongside methanol again based on my results.

I'm sure those using pump gas would see even greater results if the engine's tuned properly. If it's not tuned for the WMI, expect little results, if any at all. It's also extremely critical the nozzle is sized appropriately to the engine and the MIN/MAX settings are set correctly on the progressive controller. Anyone NOT using a progressive controller be very cautious about your activation point (RPM and boost pressure) as the engine runs a risk of hydrolocking if it's set to come too early.

I'll be setting mine up next weekend using a Volvo cold start injector so that I can use the AEM FIC-6 to bring the meth in using a PWM signal which takes into account so many other variables that the standard issued progressive controllers just don't have. This will allows the methanol to be injected just like the ECM controls the fuel injector on the engine. The FIC-6 will also formulate the engine RPM as well as the TPS signal to provide greater accuracy and of course better tuning. I actually bought a retired stainless steel fuel cell on eBay that I'll be installing a methanol compatible in-tank pump into which will then use a separate braided steel line to supply the cold start injector (using a custom mini fuel rail) 100% methanol. I'm now considering using the AEM WMI system as a intercooler spray setup instead activating off of post-intercooler IAT's and MAP for better overall control as next year I'll have my AC functional and I'm pretty sure that the condenser will add gobs of heat into the intercooler. Having both the methanol injection and water spray system should should ensure maximum reliability and power at high boost levels.
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^ IMW = Innovative MotorWorks. not WMI= water meth injection.

lol Robert go to sleep it is getting late ;p jp jp


Good info. Turn out my nozzle are underside, need to contact the tuner again to see what he recommends need more W/M to help keep exhaust gas temp down so that the HFPC don't melt.

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Lmao, NEVER! Sorry...

Btw, isn't it a little odd how the difference in power between the two boost levels was only 10hp? I'm assuming Dom had you tuned pretty conservative? Any shots of the before/after ignition tables?
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I can get a shot later and pm you it. Rather not post trade secrets for the world to see
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I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Jk. Yes please, I'd appreciate that. Just wanna see how my previous pump gas tune was in comparison. I feel confident in my tuning skills but still just curious.
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Lmao, NEVER! Sorry...

Btw, isn't it a little odd how the difference in power between the two boost levels was only 10hp? I'm assuming Dom had you tuned pretty conservative? Any shots of the before/after ignition tables?
I could have tune it to 15-18 whp more but not worth it for a daily driven car
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Originally Posted by DomGSR-T
I could have tune it to 15-18 whp more but not worth it for a daily driven car

Understood.

Curious Dom, is it ideal to tune the top of the low ignition table to where it transitions into the high table at the exact same timing value? I've noticed that no matter how hard I try and smooth that out the transitional gap, the shift retard compensation seems to throw my timing into the dirt (sometimes as low as -5!) even with the gear compensation set to -100 all the across all gears. Any ideas to this?

It does make for some pretty badass pops and flames during shifts but in reality it's killing my times!
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Originally Posted by yungone501
Understood.

Curious Dom, is it ideal to tune the top of the low ignition table to where it transitions into the high table at the exact same timing value? I've noticed that no matter how hard I try and smooth that out the transitional gap, the shift retard compensation seems to throw my timing into the dirt (sometimes as low as -5!) even with the gear compensation set to -100 all the across all gears. Any ideas to this?
It does make for some pretty badass pops and flames during shifts but in reality it's killing my times!
I'd like to know if Ken is having this issue? or Utah-TLS did you feel that before?
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No pops or flames but I do still have my hfpc. But I notices that the shift rev hang again to the point it is annoying to drive in the city.
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Unless they've altered their fuel overrun, they wouldn't have the pops/bangs. Mine simply does that because it's been tuned to not cut the fuel at low map areas. They would, however, still be able to see the ignition retard I'm describing at shift points. I'm sure by simply reviewing one of Kens previous logs, you would be able to see what I'm describing.
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Btw Ken, are you using the original throttle body and/or MAP sensor for your engine. If not, which ones are being used?
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Stock tb. With hondata 4bar map sensor . but I might go back to stock since I won't be doing anymore psi. 383who enough for me


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