Custom J-Pipe
06-23-2007, 12:40 PM
#82
Originally Posted by ussi
lol i'm at san jo airport right now..i was in vegas the last few days...my HBP is going in as we speak. be patient my son 
06-24-2007, 05:35 PM
#85
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
Still the same belt, or would it be a diff size?
should be the same size. i got my HBP right before they supposedly closed their doors and they never said anything about a different belt. i think our we have automatic tensioners.
06-27-2007, 05:21 AM
#86
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
yeah, can't wait for the j-pipe & the resulting gains! I don't think I'll break 300 whp, though. Maybe after cat-back, pulleys & j-pipe. Max possible, I think, would be in the low 290's, but doubt it. 
06-27-2007, 06:02 PM
#88
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
DYNO IS HERE! 294.1 HP 260.8 TQ @ 6.4 PSI BOOST. I put the chart & video on the hondata reflash thread. As soon as I can get my hands on a j-pipe & catback, I'll dyno again. I love my numbers!
pardon my french... but...
FCKING SWEET !!!!!!! it has to be HBP (6.4psi)
catback, jpipe.... over 300whp on a 5AT.
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but you do have the reflash. something we cant get our hands on yet.. or so i've heard
06-27-2007, 09:40 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by lookinco
When i had the 3.2 motor and HBP, i had up to 7.5~8psi of boost. I also had the E-shift procats at that time. Just wondering why your boost is lower.
06-27-2007, 11:21 PM
#93
Originally Posted by Allout
Could be the custom J-pipe. Opening up the flow will cause a drop in boost. Some of the guys experience that with an open exhaust cutout.
06-27-2007, 11:48 PM
#95
The shop had a gauge so they measured the boost right there when the car was on the rollers
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
06-28-2007, 12:30 AM
#98
Originally Posted by ACTROS
The shop had a gauge so they measured the boost right there when the car was on the rollers
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
06-28-2007, 12:32 AM
#99
Originally Posted by ACTROS
The shop had a gauge so they measured the boost right there when the car was on the rollers
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet
Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.
Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!
that makes sense. my other buddy that was second to SC his 7th gen accord showed he was boosting about 1psi more than me, but he doesnt have the pro-cats and full catback, but he is auto, while im 6spd.
actros are you 6mt or 5at? maybe that can be it
you guys also have to remember, shawn at church automotive uses a dynopack, dynometer, which will give you higher numbers than any other dyno. on the top part of the dyno chart, it usually says flywheel torque and flywheel hp. they physically take your wheels off the car and connect the hubs straight to the machine, minusing the rotating mass of the wheels. so actually dynopacks show hp to the hubs and not true WHP. i believe it shows anywhere from 8-10% higher than a standard dynojet. nevertheless, those are still great #'s for a 5at.
06-28-2007, 12:39 AM
#100
Originally Posted by lookinco
Is that number with the HBP?
After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.
06-28-2007, 12:46 AM
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Now that make more sense, i would expect the 3.2motor with HBP to make more then 300whp.
When I had the 3.2 with regular pulley, I only saw around 4.5psi of boost. I had the E-procat, 3rd cat delete, and stock catback at that time.
When I had the 3.2 with regular pulley, I only saw around 4.5psi of boost. I had the E-procat, 3rd cat delete, and stock catback at that time.
06-28-2007, 12:54 AM
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btw, with just the regular pulley and no catback and J-pipe, 294whp is very good!!!!
You will get over 300whp with the exhaust mod. Can't imagine what the HBP would do.
So with the reflash your redline is 7300rpm and your Vtec comes in at 3000rpm?
You will get over 300whp with the exhaust mod. Can't imagine what the HBP would do.
So with the reflash your redline is 7300rpm and your Vtec comes in at 3000rpm?
06-28-2007, 01:00 AM
#103
Originally Posted by lookinco
btw, with just the regular pulley and no catback and J-pipe, 294whp is very good!!!!
You will get over 300whp with the exhaust mod. Can't imagine what the HBP would do.
So with the reflash your redline is 7300rpm and your Vtec comes in at 3000rpm?
You will get over 300whp with the exhaust mod. Can't imagine what the HBP would do.
So with the reflash your redline is 7300rpm and your Vtec comes in at 3000rpm?
06-28-2007, 01:05 AM
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Yes i do have a custom cold air intake on mine. It's just a simple U-bend and a pipe down to the bumper opening.
As for the HBP, I think you can get away with the stock injectors. Do you happen to know the duty cycle of your current injectors with the regular pulley?
There are people running the HBP and is still running pig rich, so I believe the stock injector should flow enough fuel for the HBP.
Do you know which aftermarket injectors would fit the TL?
As for the HBP, I think you can get away with the stock injectors. Do you happen to know the duty cycle of your current injectors with the regular pulley?
There are people running the HBP and is still running pig rich, so I believe the stock injector should flow enough fuel for the HBP.
Do you know which aftermarket injectors would fit the TL?
06-28-2007, 01:08 AM
#105
My car is 04 TL AT, dyno took place on a dynojet at ESP, it was hot as hell that day too. Icepack helped otherwise the ECU was severely retarding ignition.
Mrlunecy what was you air/fuel ration at the time of the dyno or whatever?
In my case the HBP stabilized the AFR, bringing it to a more "normal" 11.5 at WOT from the pig rich 10 and lower before the HBP install. So the HBP can do some good in that respect actually. Always check your AFR first, you might be running lean and the HBP would only make it worse.
Mrlunecy what was you air/fuel ration at the time of the dyno or whatever?
In my case the HBP stabilized the AFR, bringing it to a more "normal" 11.5 at WOT from the pig rich 10 and lower before the HBP install. So the HBP can do some good in that respect actually. Always check your AFR first, you might be running lean and the HBP would only make it worse.
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
HOLD UR HORSES GUYS! No I DO NOT have the HBP! Just pro cats, s/c & reflash. That's why my boost is 6.4. Doug the Hondata Brain say's it's perfectly good. He doesn't recommend the HBP even with his current reflash version cuz the the car will run way lean at the top end.
After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.
After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.
06-28-2007, 01:25 AM
#106
Originally Posted by lookinco
Yes i do have a custom cold air intake on mine. It's just a simple U-bend and a pipe down to the bumper opening.
As for the HBP, I think you can get away with the stock injectors. Do you happen to know the duty cycle of your current injectors with the regular pulley?
There are people running the HBP and is still running pig rich, so I believe the stock injector should flow enough fuel for the HBP.
Do you know which aftermarket injectors would fit the TL?
As for the HBP, I think you can get away with the stock injectors. Do you happen to know the duty cycle of your current injectors with the regular pulley?
There are people running the HBP and is still running pig rich, so I believe the stock injector should flow enough fuel for the HBP.
Do you know which aftermarket injectors would fit the TL?
06-28-2007, 01:30 AM
#107
Originally Posted by ACTROS
My car is 04 TL AT, dyno took place on a dynojet at ESP, it was hot as hell that day too. Icepack helped otherwise the ECU was severely retarding ignition.
Mrlunecy what was you air/fuel ration at the time of the dyno or whatever?
In my case the HBP stabilized the AFR, bringing it to a more "normal" 11.5 at WOT from the pig rich 10 and lower before the HBP install. So the HBP can do some good in that respect actually. Always check your AFR first, you might be running lean and the HBP would only make it worse.
Mrlunecy what was you air/fuel ration at the time of the dyno or whatever?
In my case the HBP stabilized the AFR, bringing it to a more "normal" 11.5 at WOT from the pig rich 10 and lower before the HBP install. So the HBP can do some good in that respect actually. Always check your AFR first, you might be running lean and the HBP would only make it worse.
06-28-2007, 02:12 AM
#111
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
HOLD UR HORSES GUYS! No I DO NOT have the HBP! Just pro cats, s/c & reflash. That's why my boost is 6.4. Doug the Hondata Brain say's it's perfectly good. He doesn't recommend the HBP even with his current reflash version cuz the the car will run way lean at the top end.
After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.
After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.
06-28-2007, 08:14 AM
#113
Three Wheelin'
ussi, i saw you said you only used the primary pro-cats. Any chance did you get inspection while they were on? I was just wondering how my NA car with 2 cats would do for emission. The company that makes the cats are they called Metal Cat?
06-28-2007, 12:29 PM
#114
Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
ussi, i saw you said you only used the primary pro-cats. Any chance did you get inspection while they were on? I was just wondering how my NA car with 2 cats would do for emission. The company that makes the cats are they called Metal Cat?
06-28-2007, 10:13 PM
#118
Burning Brakes
Have you had yours inspected in Cali???
One of the guys who lives in my neighborhood works for an emissions place, but still makes me nervous..
One last thing,,, WHY does it fail visual inspection? Is it just becuase it is not stock?
thanks
One of the guys who lives in my neighborhood works for an emissions place, but still makes me nervous..
One last thing,,, WHY does it fail visual inspection? Is it just becuase it is not stock?
thanks
Originally Posted by ussi
sounds familiar, all i know is that eshift does the final assembly. No inspection yet, my guess is it might pass emissions, but not visual (in cali anyways..).
06-28-2007, 10:53 PM
#120
Blown is Best
Originally Posted by desper
Have you had yours inspected in Cali???
One of the guys who lives in my neighborhood works for an emissions place, but still makes me nervous..
One last thing,,, WHY does it fail visual inspection? Is it just becuase it is not stock?
thanks
One of the guys who lives in my neighborhood works for an emissions place, but still makes me nervous..
One last thing,,, WHY does it fail visual inspection? Is it just becuase it is not stock?
thanks