The guys over at Heel toe are telling me that this will work with the type s but I've been reading all over the place that it wont. Does anyone know the specifics to why it wont work?? Is it a fitment issue?? Is it a tuning issue?? details please.. Thanks

 

It fits the TL-S with minor modification but the tuning isn't right for the TL-S.

Why not just opt for the J&R Turbo Kit? More power, proven to work, similar cost. We are working on a batch of these now.

 

How is the tuning not right for the TL-S when there is a FlashPro option now for the 07-08 TL?

 

 

I believe he would be referring to the ACM module.

You'd be completely fine with the Flash Pro.

 

Go turbo, that way, you'll be able to boost 21 psi!

 

I remember reading that it would not produce as much boost in this application as it did on a non type S due to increased displacement of the engine. It seems the supercharger is already undersized for the base since with the regular pulley it only makes about 4 psi of possitive pressure. Ive read that it would be less than 4 psi on the type s motor. Not to mentioned the "rigged" tuning solution from competch, as mentioned already.

 

I've been looking into supercharging my type s as well. J&R turbo seems at least 2-3 thousand more so thats a no go, especially with the low offer on the SC right now. IF the supercharger would produce less psi on the 3.5 liter, can't we just use a higher boost pulley to make up for it? I understand there might be heat issues but I think there are ways of solving this?

I feel like there has to be a good way to get the CT supercharger to work on a type s now that we have flashpro...

 

The pulley really operates out of the superchargers efficeincy range. It really just throws alot more heat, effectively negating the effects of increasing boost. Not sure their names, but other members on the board have used a physically larger roots supercharger. I believe an M90. I think the current kit uses an M60. I could be incorrect. There recently has been another thread talking about this, search for it.

 

Here are a few links about this topic. Sorry for the mistake, the current kit uses an M62.


https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/max-boost-pulley-691099/

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/comptech-supercharger-high-boost-pulley-744367/

 

^Yep M90.

You could run the HBP...and meth.

 

Automatics have restriction.

 

I was referring to the ACM. I don't think CT-E released a Flashpro file yet for the TL supercharger kit.

The CT-E supercharger kit without the ACM but with FP will be about $4700 and there's no tune available yet. The turbo kit is about $6k with FP and there is a tune.

Either option is a viable option but the cost difference isn't that much in the scheme of things and you'll make significantly more power with the turbo kit.

 

OP if you are set on a supercharger, you should go with M90; you will have much better results than the M62. Honeslty, if you still want the M62, get a custom FMIC or just consider spending that extra 1300 on the turbo kit.

 

^ Again, all that power on the automatic transmission. For the MT guys, a clutch upgrade would be neccessary. For the autos, not sure what they need to do.

 

^ There has been many memebers you have ran super/turbos in their autos with no issues. Erik (accuratein) iirc is auto and cant remember his user name but he had aTL-S turbo auto with no issuse (i think he is selling the turbo now; wants to go a different route). I get what you are saying though, however, it just comes down to how well someone builds their car.

 

I ran a CT S/C on my Base auto with no issues what so ever. Just changed to Redline Racing fluid and put in an aux trans cooler in front of the rad. I went s/c so I could turn around and take it off in a couple hours and put it to stock once I sold it. I get bored with FWD cars very fast! The turbo would be a lot more work to put back to stock.

 

^I was trying to remember your user name too

 

On the contrary. libert69 had a very well built car and beefed up auto trans, yet the trans still failed (maybe not a hard failure, but failed to operate properly). The reason? Power levels. That's why the other members you've mentioned have had very little issues. They simply weren't pushing enough power to have significant issues.

To the OP, as long as you keep your HP goals within reason and use a reliable tuning solution, you shouldn't have any major issues.

Now, as to which F/I option is most feasible... The C/T blower should be out of the question. Even on a 3.2L engine, that little blower is operating outside of its efficiency range. It's going to struggle with a 3.5. That doesn't mean that it cannot be done and that others haven't done it, it you're going to be constantly fighting charge temps and over time that extra heat is going to take its toll on your engine. As far as the J&R turbo... Just do a little research on the forums and find out more about the guy behind the company and determine for yourself if you really want to take the gamble of dealing with him. The M90 blower is probably one of the more do-able options, however the guy that builds the kits is extremely busy, and it would likely take quite a bit of time to receive it. The other option is that you have a shop fab a turbo kit for you. A member here (yungone501) recently had a custom kit fab'd up and it looks like one of the nicer jobs I've seen on a J-series engine. You're probably looking at around $4-$5.5k for someone to do that. You're going to need the supporting mods as well like wideband, injectors, tuning, etc., etc.

I think the biggest thing you need to consider is what sort of budget you have for the car and work backwards from that. It's very very easy to get carried away. Trust me.

 

^ I wasnt referring to 500+whp monster like libert69 and you ; you guys are in a whole different ballpark, but more like people with 300-400whp. However, I can understand reaching levels like that you will encounter issues like you stated. You are aslo correct it depends on how much whp he wants to put down, a good tune, and some supporting mods that is reasonable; he should be fine.

 

We are taking over exclusive distribution of the 3G TL kit so all customers will be dealing with us.

 

Interesting. So are you guys dealing directly with the fabricator and tuner? Is Rodney still in the mix anywhere? IMO, he's the reason that a lot of guys were receiving half-assed parts that were either previously used, or were so-called "beta" items. His ambitious descriptions for the products were another issue.

 

I was once an avid supporter of J&R and have never been taken by him and actually have been given great deals by supporting his efforts via prepayments.

But following the last group buy and even supporting him through that, I have witnessed enough that I wouldn't go back.

Any good fabricator can do what he has done. The area that he really helped in was implementing a real tuning solution before Hondata jumped in and if you already have an 07/08 then that can be done via FlashPro.

 

We are dealing with Rodney but we will be doing final assembly here of all the kits to make sure everything is complete.

 

Gotcha. I hope you don't take any offense to my previous comments, Josh. I've been a long time customer of Xlr8 and will continue to be.

 

the tl supercharger will work for the ua7 with slight elbow mods and bracket mods. the ecm can be custom tune by the right tuner. i think it will work just fine. i dont know why somebody would suggest a turbo when the op is looking for a supercharger . ugh

 

hahaa stop kissing ass to josh he wont give u a discount

 

Don't you have some pre-cats to wrap?

 

arent you from the 04-06 tl hondata banwagon?

 

Aren't you supposed to be on the 'banwagon' already?!

 

It was just a suggestion after we gave him the info on the supercharger

 

No offense. Just clarifying so people knew. Thank you for your support and patronage.

 

ziggyh22 "Flashpro OP" said it was a alternator bracket that was stopping the CT blower to fit on a "S"

 

I am still waiting for a good supercharger kit to come out for the 07-08 TL-S.

Don't need the power of a turbocharger. I like the response and simplicity of a supercharger. Too bad the comptech isn't a suitable kit.

 

^ KraftWerkz rotrex, slim chance they'll make one out for us. Another option on rotrex kit is go talk to TTS Superchargers. You'll find these kit more powerful than Comptech.