Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

just bought an 08 type s and wanted to crank some more horsies out of her

whats the best setup to get, short of a turbo, max hp out of our cars?

Originally Posted by princelybug

Supercharger.

J-pipe.

Originally Posted by Souljah

You should start with researching.
Honestly, true answer. It will help you decide.
But if you really like to go blindly off of other member's words.

Best "power" setup without FI (forced induction, ie... charger)
CAI-PCD-JPipe-Test Pipe-Catback Exhaust = Free flowing and no cats (illegal)

There's also weight reduction.
Not sure if this helps you. Anyways, good luck on your quest!

Originally Posted by I hate cars

Even though the supercharger and turbo seem like a lot of money, compare the hp you get and how much most people end up spending on mods over the course of 4 years which may give 40hp at most.

I say keep it stock for now and save up for FI.

Otherwise the TL seems to respond the best to exhaust mods and lightweight pullies.

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

what is a j pipe exactly ?



not really just gonna go blindly, im more asking opinion of what other members use and what they like....whats a pcd?
it helped! thanks man


cool cool thank you....do you have FI on your TL? what would it cost to turbo a type s

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

just bought an 08 type s and wanted to crank some more horsies out of her

whats the best setup to get, short of a turbo, max hp out of our cars?

Originally Posted by Souljah

damn you alexsu! beat me to it and more helpful!!

Originally Posted by alexSU

J-Pipe:



https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633717



PCD/Pre-Cat Deletes:

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739533



and it's about $6000 to turbo a TL-S

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718808

Originally Posted by Souljah

PCD is PreCat Delete. It removes our two primary cats with straight pipes. It is for "off-road" use only. :wink: As it does not comply with emission standards.

I do not believe I Hate Cars is currently FI. Here's a the turbo thread.
But it is 80+ pages long with lots of garbage pages. You will need to filter through it.
CLICK HERE

Originally Posted by Souljah

damn you alexsu! beat me to it and more helpful!!

Originally Posted by Hi speed

$5700+suporting mods. Motor mounts, suspension stuff, whatever else you need or can afford.

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

nice! cheers for the info man .... is it really $400 for a j pipe??



haha yeah ive been reading through there...will a PCD mess with emmissions or be loud?

Originally Posted by alexSU

The J-pipes are pretty expensive but you could check out the black market, maybe find a used one. It's worth it though, the power gains are definitely there. I would really spend the money on exhaust, just with my cat-back exhaust and j-pipe I felt a big difference, especially top end.

Check with Mrheeltoe or Excelerate (both vendors on Azine) for performance parts.

https://acurazine.com/forums/members/excelerate-25144/

https://acurazine.com/forums/members/mrheeltoe-162175/

Originally Posted by Souljah

1) but look at the threads. To me, worth it. Especially ATLP V2 J-Pipe. It is drop/lowered friendly.

2) PCD replaces your cats and is not emissions legal

Originally Posted by Yonkers914

yea def. check the black market if cost is an issue all my parts are used and i saved tons of money on my car as i am going fully bolted.

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

awesome help man i really appreciate it

which catback dod you get? and was it really loud? i dont mind the throatier sound...but lemme tell you my accord is looooud haha im going more luxury with my tl here so id like to keep it semi quiet

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

just bought an 08 type s and wanted to crank some more horsies out of her

whats the best setup to get, short of a turbo, max hp out of our cars?

Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY

NY weather was absolutely perfect today, so i swung by the dyno place, and man, do i have a smile on my face!!

First off, let me say, if you want power, and you don't have the RV6 Pre-Cat deletes... GET THEM!!!

The only things I've done since my last pull was the Innovative Mounts & RV6 Pre-cats


Last Run, April 2008.
3rd Gear
Max Power
272.46 whp // 219.49 wtq
65.25 Degrees

October 2008
3rd Gear
Max Power
293.16 whp // 233.66 wtq
66.27 Degrees



What you've all been waiting to read!

Power Gains from RV6 Pre-Cat Deletes
20.70 whp / 14.17 wtq

I've been using the same exact dyno, every time i pulled my car

239 whp Stock
249 whp + CAI, Pulley, P2R TB spacer, OE IM gaskets
261 whp + ATLP Catback Exhaust
272 whp + ATLP J-Pipe
293 whp + RV6 PreCats & Innovative Mounts

300 whp ??? soon.... real soon....a nice tune, P&P of the IM runners.. and im sure ill be around 310+ whp (of course, all dynos read different) but i keep using the same one, with similar run conditions

i'll post dyno graphs later!!

Oh, and FYI, the 250wtq in my signature, was a 4th gear pull in April... i pulled 4th gear once today to see TQ numbers, and it showed 264. However, 4th gear yields low WHP b/c of rev limit issues... car dropped off at 5k RPM.. Wouldnt keep pushing...

Originally Posted by phee

a lease for a cts-v

Originally Posted by Souljah

I almost traded in my TL for a 2005 CTS-V.
But being RWD in Colorado is a very bad idea

Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL

What the hell...270whp+ on a N/A TL?!

Originally Posted by Yonkers914

lol^^^ but if you put snow tires on AWD it will do better then the RWD with snow tires.

Originally Posted by Sound Murderer

so i guess my setup will be ---RV6 pre cat deletes, ATLP quad exhaust, ATLP Jpipe and some CAI

sound good?

Originally Posted by Bearcat94

Yes and I'd add a UR Pulley as well.

Also look up the Honda Ridgeline/Acura MDX IM Manifold spacer. There is a thread on here - many pages. Lots of low end torque from that, but it's not quite plug and play; you have to address some clearance issues.

Originally Posted by I hate cars

Even though the supercharger and turbo seem like a lot of money, compare the hp you get and how much most people end up spending on mods over the course of 4 years which may give 40hp at most.

I say keep it stock for now and save up for FI.

Otherwise the TL seems to respond the best to exhaust mods and lightweight pullies.

Originally Posted by Yonkers914

DAm "greco9885 " did you buy everything new or something? lol

Originally Posted by Sensual_Sushi

Not to side track the thread completely but can I get feedback on how loud the J-Pipe mod is? I've got a CAI + CT Catback and it sounds barely louder than stock (at < 4000rpm part throttle) but growls at WOT (which is great).
Does the J-Pipe keep the TL quiet (which I want) or does it kick up the volume noticeably?

AS for the pulley, it's either
A - lighter
and/or
B - underdrives the accessories for less power drag. I'm new to the TL world so not sure which the UR pulley does for this car.

Originally Posted by Bearcat94

If you have any drone at low/medium RPM, it's possible the J-Pipe will actually help. As far as noise little or no difference.


Stock crank pulley weight about 8 lbs. The car has to expend some energy to get the 8 lbs moving. UR pulley weighs about 2 lbs. Now the car can spend less energy getting the pulley spinning. That saved enegy goes to the drivetrain, and eventually to the wheels.