Best meth kit
#41
Three Wheelin'
if anything, ull most likely feel a similar difference as found between winter and summer...ECU will prob add some timing due to cooler intake air, but at the same time, seeing a richer mixture from the added fuel (meth) it will prob pull back injector fuel setting things back...the car does not like a richer mixture, its a goddamn lean machine...its set up to run as lean as possible, safely... id do pure meth in this since its NA, water will most likely hurt some performance if injected at 50/50 mix
#42
Three Wheelin'
I'm not quite clear. Do you mean throwing an intercooler on a stock car as in no blower or turbo?
I think it's safe to say it's never been done before. Meth has a chance at providing benefits on a normally aspirated car though it might do more harm than good. It would really depend on how well you implement it. A progressive kit is a must if NA. With the way mine is running in the heat, I'm seriously thinking of pulling the meth off my broken GN and throwing it on the TL with a smaller jet to see if it's worth the trouble.
I think it's safe to say it's never been done before. Meth has a chance at providing benefits on a normally aspirated car though it might do more harm than good. It would really depend on how well you implement it. A progressive kit is a must if NA. With the way mine is running in the heat, I'm seriously thinking of pulling the meth off my broken GN and throwing it on the TL with a smaller jet to see if it's worth the trouble.
#43
Team Owner
#44
Team Owner
if anything, ull most likely feel a similar difference as found between winter and summer...ECU will prob add some timing due to cooler intake air, but at the same time, seeing a richer mixture from the added fuel (meth) it will prob pull back injector fuel setting things back...the car does not like a richer mixture, its a goddamn lean machine...its set up to run as lean as possible, safely... id do pure meth in this since its NA, water will most likely hurt some performance if injected at 50/50 mix
#46
Team Owner
#48
boost owns
I can't wait to whip it around in November/December before the snow hits.
I am going water/meth next spring for sure...
#49
His feeling was that the Roots blower increased the air temp about 10 degrees per PSI.
#50
Three Wheelin'
I spoke to him a few months back and he said without tunning( control of AF and timming) and more boost he wouldn't feel comfortable selling me the kit. Very nice guy, said about $1000 for what we need. I was looking at straight meth so a mix kit is likely cheaper, since the pump doesn't need to be Methanol resistant.
His feeling was that the Roots blower increased the air temp about 10 degrees per PSI.
His feeling was that the Roots blower increased the air temp about 10 degrees per PSI.
and thats a lot of money for a meth kit.
#51
I think my lack of info made him feel uneasy about the set. He wants to custom build a kit for you and wanted more info than I could provide.
When I said I was making about 5 Psi he almost hung up. I guess he is use to higher boost levels.
#52
Team Owner
At the time I didin't know my AF or even psi since I didn't have my gauges in.
I think my lack of info made him feel uneasy about the set. He wants to custom build a kit for you and wanted more info than I could provide.
When I said I was making about 5 Psi he almost hung up. I guess he is use to higher boost levels.
I think my lack of info made him feel uneasy about the set. He wants to custom build a kit for you and wanted more info than I could provide.
When I said I was making about 5 Psi he almost hung up. I guess he is use to higher boost levels.
All he needs to know is the TL runs lean, timing is waaay to much for boost, and while it's only 5psi, it's on top of 11:1 compression. I think if he knew that he would feel more easy about helping. $1,000 is way high. It should be $650 or so.
#53
Three Wheelin'
At the time I didin't know my AF or even psi since I didn't have my gauges in.
I think my lack of info made him feel uneasy about the set. He wants to custom build a kit for you and wanted more info than I could provide.
When I said I was making about 5 Psi he almost hung up. I guess he is use to higher boost levels.
I think my lack of info made him feel uneasy about the set. He wants to custom build a kit for you and wanted more info than I could provide.
When I said I was making about 5 Psi he almost hung up. I guess he is use to higher boost levels.
#54
horny =
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I am visting a shop :ducks: (this is way above my ability and time) this weekend to get a quote tuning, the intercooler and installing the stage two meth kit and will post the damage.
I hate cars... am I correct to say I need a stage two snow kit for the variable timing. I prematurly bought the stage one and now think I have to resell it. Just curious and as always thanks for the help.
I hate cars... am I correct to say I need a stage two snow kit for the variable timing. I prematurly bought the stage one and now think I have to resell it. Just curious and as always thanks for the help.
#55
I am visting a shop :ducks: (this is way above my ability and time) this weekend to get a quote tuning, the intercooler and installing the stage two meth kit and will post the damage.
I hate cars... am I correct to say I need a stage two snow kit for the variable timing. I prematurly bought the stage one and now think I have to resell it. Just curious and as always thanks for the help.
I hate cars... am I correct to say I need a stage two snow kit for the variable timing. I prematurly bought the stage one and now think I have to resell it. Just curious and as always thanks for the help.
#56
Team Owner
It should be as easy as swapping the controller.
If that doesn't work, there's a decent market in the domestic racing scene. Many of those guys just need a large on/off shot of meth.
You *can* use in for a NA TL. You will just have to be more conservative with the jetting. In other words you will only be able to spray a small amount to keep from choking it down at lower throttle.
If you find that you can swap the controller out, I would install it as it first and if you don't like it, unplug it and plug the progressive unit in.
I also don't recommend a water/meth mix for a NA car. Pure meth is really the only way to go since you're trying to knock down charge temps as much as possible and the combustion chamber cooler that the water does is a distant second. You also run a greater chance of losing power when NA with the water in there.
#59
Three Wheelin'
Stage II works either off maf sensor voltage or boost...2 dial settings.. so if ur running 10 psi....u could have it start spraying at 2-3 psi....and go on full blast at 6 psi
#60
Former Sponsor
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Stage 2 has 2 settings. The first setting starts injection at 10% and then ramps up to 100% by the second setting.
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