AEM V1 vs. AEM V2
05-16-2009, 10:52 AM
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AEM V1 vs. AEM V2
Looking at getting an intake for my TL and looking at some others experiences with the V1 and V2. I had the V1 on my Integra but I have heard mixed reviews on the V2. Does any one have any Dyno graphs with both the V1 and the V2 on their car? Looking for some data.
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05-16-2009, 04:30 PM
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for crying out loud doesn't anyone search
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/b-031-intake-review-part-ii-look-aem-v2-683367/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/b-031-intake-review-part-ii-look-aem-v2-683367/
05-16-2009, 04:39 PM
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for crying out loud doesn't anyone search
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683367
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683367
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05-17-2009, 12:20 PM
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So your saying that that big chamber thingy on the V2 has no affect on power performance from the V1...
05-17-2009, 01:27 PM
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If they ask what kind of car you have tell them a yugo
dosent matter they will sell it to you. BTW the part fits the 03-06 v6 accords thats why they said that.
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I knew of the Accord and TL sharing certain likeness in components but figured since AEM didn't have a V2 for 3rd Gen TLs then there was not one produced for the Accord. Also that the engine compartments might be a little different in composition. I do not want to mod my eng compartment just for a CAI. Yeah, the technician said they didn't have one and didn't plan on making one.
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05-17-2009, 02:38 PM
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05-19-2009, 03:14 PM
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OK, I'll jump off the bridge.... I had the V1 now I have the V2. I am sure that the V1 made for a faster car (TL). Better gas mileage. Better low end torque. I would love to see one of you guys do a side by side compare. I mean start with the V1 then change it too the V2. Dyno's? Track run would work better. I think you would agree! I will say that on my 2000 integra the V2 was the clear winner. But not the TL. So maybe one of you quick change artists. Like Mr. stillhere153 . Could do a side by side? I think you might be surprised!!! 
Or just set up a race between the two. Course then the driver skill, or lack of. Makes the difference.
05-19-2009, 04:13 PM
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I covered this pretty well here...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ght=aem&page=2
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It WOULD only create higher pressure/faster moving moving air into the throttle body if it's being FORCED in.
The air does speed up through the restriction, but the air speed enters at the speed of the vaccuum the engine creates, as opposed to being pushed in harder...
Think of your engine as a vacuum cleaner. When you place your hand partially over the vacuum nozzle you can hear the vacuum motor bog down and hear the hiss as the same volume of air increases as it enter the nozzle passed your hand. This is a perfect example of "lost power" - motor bogging, due to "restriction" - your hand.
Now think. If you attach a coffee can to the end of the vacuum nozzle, does that improve flow? Of course not. You could extend the length of the nozzle a few feet (same diameter as the nozzle), and NOT place any further restriction on the flow. (sure there's some nominal air turbulence intriduced, but the impact is so nominal it's not worth discussing)... So under this analogy, how does larger diameter pipe add power, when ultimately, the flow is restricted by the throttle body... You could ELIMINATE the tube, and bolt the filter to the throttle body and flow would NOT improve in any measurable means... of course you would lose the "cold air" capability in that config.
The stock intake and filter is not restrictive. Adding a CAI frees what little restriction that exists, and most of the restriction is freed in adding a higher surface area filter that's less dense.
The pipe diameter, provided it's larger in diameter that the throttle body, has almost nothing to do with the gains realized from a CAI. AEM has introduced this overpriced V2, to get folks to "upgrade"... which from the interest above clearly seesm to be working.
The air does speed up through the restriction, but the air speed enters at the speed of the vaccuum the engine creates, as opposed to being pushed in harder...
Think of your engine as a vacuum cleaner. When you place your hand partially over the vacuum nozzle you can hear the vacuum motor bog down and hear the hiss as the same volume of air increases as it enter the nozzle passed your hand. This is a perfect example of "lost power" - motor bogging, due to "restriction" - your hand.
Now think. If you attach a coffee can to the end of the vacuum nozzle, does that improve flow? Of course not. You could extend the length of the nozzle a few feet (same diameter as the nozzle), and NOT place any further restriction on the flow. (sure there's some nominal air turbulence intriduced, but the impact is so nominal it's not worth discussing)... So under this analogy, how does larger diameter pipe add power, when ultimately, the flow is restricted by the throttle body... You could ELIMINATE the tube, and bolt the filter to the throttle body and flow would NOT improve in any measurable means... of course you would lose the "cold air" capability in that config.
The stock intake and filter is not restrictive. Adding a CAI frees what little restriction that exists, and most of the restriction is freed in adding a higher surface area filter that's less dense.
The pipe diameter, provided it's larger in diameter that the throttle body, has almost nothing to do with the gains realized from a CAI. AEM has introduced this overpriced V2, to get folks to "upgrade"... which from the interest above clearly seesm to be working.
05-19-2009, 08:43 PM
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From somebody that's changing out the V1 for a V2, I completely agree with Kennedy. I'm not changing because of all the people that have gotten the V2 and say they power increase is "very" noticeable. I have had a CAI on almost every vehicle I've owned and have never been "amazed by the increased power". That said, I couldn't give you a good reason for using CAI's, just seems like the first/easiest mod for a new ride.
Anyway, my reason for switching is the hope that I lose the whistle/squeal my V1 has. If it doesn't, it will be an expensive (failed) experiement, but one I was willing to try.
Anyway, my reason for switching is the hope that I lose the whistle/squeal my V1 has. If it doesn't, it will be an expensive (failed) experiement, but one I was willing to try.
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i just installed the V2, it makes no noise when your driving. you will hear a howl/whistle noise (very minimal) when u step on it, other then that, it is pretty quite. you can tell the diff between air flow though but i didn't have an intake before so can't tell you the diff between V1 and V2
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I dont know, I think this arguement wont be settle till we line up two cars with just a v1 and a v2 to finally put an end to this discussion or put them on a dyno and get some numbers. Some people swear that the v2 is better and logic would say that your engine air intake can only get a max amount of air flow.
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All the doubters never tried it before so they really wouldn't know
kennedy is always going to be pessimistic about anything not thoroughly proven... but hey I still say v2>v1
kennedy is always going to be pessimistic about anything not thoroughly proven... but hey I still say v2>v1
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In my opinion even though I have a v2 and have not compared it to a v1 the only way to solve this arguement is to dyno it. Till we are able to do that I think we should quit asking this question over and over and over again
05-21-2009, 11:16 AM
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OK, I'll jump off the bridge.... I had the V1 now I have the V2. I am sure that the V1 made for a faster car (TL). Better gas mileage. Better low end torque. I would love to see one of you guys do a side by side compare. I mean start with the V1 then change it too the V2. Dyno's? Track run would work better. I think you would agree! I will say that on my 2000 integra the V2 was the clear winner. But not the TL. So maybe one of you quick change artists. Like Mr. stillhere153 . Could do a side by side? I think you might be surprised!!! Or just set up a race between the two. Course then the driver skill, or lack of. Makes the difference.I am invisible? right? I have had both.
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anybody can have both intakes but unless you have dynoed your car with each intake installed on the car without other mods this conversation leads no where. A race will prove nothing.
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Hi Guys
Quick question, I am looking for a V2 for my 08 tl type s but have not been able to find one. But from what I understand from reading this thread that I can go with the Accord (24-6110C ) V2 system and this will fit with no mods needed. Can anyone comfirm this for me . I am wanting to buy one but want to make sure.
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Quick question, I am looking for a V2 for my 08 tl type s but have not been able to find one. But from what I understand from reading this thread that I can go with the Accord (24-6110C ) V2 system and this will fit with no mods needed. Can anyone comfirm this for me . I am wanting to buy one but want to make sure.
Thanks Acura Community
08-10-2010, 11:10 PM
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I have the AEM V2 for an 07 TL-S and the only thing i had to modify was moving the ground wires, that involved removing 1 screw and moving it 3 inches just because I am psychotic and didnt want the vib damper and the wired on the same bolt, nice intake though I have no complaints
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Are there any dynos of the V2 on a TL? I searched Google and Bing, not much luck. As an owner of an Integra it is well know that the V2 is worse than the V1. Just would like to see some graphs of the V1 and V2.
It would be great if someone has them both on the same graph but I figure that to be pretty unlikely.
It would be great if someone has them both on the same graph but I figure that to be pretty unlikely.
08-25-2010, 08:31 PM
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Hello out there! After reading all the threads, I am more comfused than ever regarding the V1 and V2. I wante to put in the V2, but Kennedy say's it's a waste of money, and maybe more as there is no difference to notice, from the cheaper to the expensive one. My first choice was for the K&N, but I am still researching the V2. Is there some one who can really agree that the V2 (24-6016C) is the way to go? I called AEM and the technitian said it will not give the TL 04 and above the performance it would with the 21-513, as it was designed for the engine of the TL 03 and under! Look forward to additional feedback!