gotrwd

Hi guys, I have some questions regarding the OEM clutch on my 04 6MT

I have done a search and some just mention upgrades or flywheel options but what im looking to find out is just going with a OEM replacement and flywheel options and experiences.

Well my clutch is toast. Im just looking for a OEM replacement since I will be just doing simple bolt ons nothing over what the stock clutch can handle.

I just purchased a LUK clutch for the sum of around $150 off partsgeek. (08-047 comes with PP, clutch, and bearings)

Has anybody used a LUK clutch ?

As far as the flywheel, I know it is a DMF, has anybody had it resurfaced? (most people dont recommend it, I know)
And If you had, anybody know a local shop in Houston, TX?

The prices for a new DMF are STEEP but maybe going single mass is a better option and can it be used with the stock clutch ?

Thanks for any help and info you guys might provide. I hope this thread can help any future posting regarding a stock replacement for clutch and flywheel and not a upgrade.

gotrwd

Anybody?

Dropping the tranny this weekend and just want to have options of what I can incase the flywheel is kaput

thanks

*anybody selling a stock DMF or aftermarket?

KN_TL

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This has really been discussed a lot.

DMFW can't be resurfaced.

Aftermarket FW can't be used with stock disc, no springs dampen engagement.

04accordcpe

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Nonsense.. the stock fw can absolutely be resurfaced with no problems whatsoever.. I've had this done along with a number of other people I know. You just have to make sure you bring it to a place that has experience with resurfacing dual mass fw's.

Its obviously more expensive (roughly 60 or so) since both the surface and step up need the same amount of material taken off to keep the stock clearances intact

I'm lucky to have a place like this right down the street from me..

KN_TL

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Just going by what others say and what the manual recommends.....

I'll be dumping mine for a 'conventional' setup.

gwiffer

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@04accordcpe: Does resurfacing the DMF change the way the clutch works or does the self-adjusting mechanism just take up the additional clearance caused by the machining?

04accordcpe

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i dont understand what you mean by the self-adjusting mechanism. the only thing self adjusting is the stock PP. the flywheel itself, doesnt have anything like that.

like i said, as long as you take off the same amount of material on the step the PP bolts to, the clearances will be identical to a new unit

Xiomaro

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Amen

gotrwd

I know the subject has been covered but like above, people have different answers. I just got my clutch in last week, now waiting on dropping the tranny.

Website states that I can use the stock clutch with a single mass flywheel, as that true?

Thanks for any info, maybe this can turn into a sticky so this debate can be settled once and for all

KN_TL

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What website? The dual mass flywheel has the 'give' in it so the disc doesn't have springs. If you put in a conventional flywheel with the stock disc, you won't like it.

gotrwd

Got it. I guess I will opt for buying a new oem flywheel or LuK replacement incase mines is toast

Here is the website
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/a...6-p-63391.html

gotrwd

Anybody purchased the LuK flywheel replacement ? Found it for $249-$300 shipped from different retailers, part #DMF062

Thanks

Sonnick

I did and it works fine. DMF062 is what I bought, I believe the 063 is for the CL-s.

Wait, we CAN use the lightweight flywheel on the stock clutch?

KN_TL

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It will go together but I can't imagine engagement is going to be very pleasant.

justnspace

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LUK is stock.

gotrwd

Thanks , makes all my doubts go away

What website did you use? ebay or a online site?

Sonnick

Online. I believe I used Carolinaclutch.com. They were the cheapest I found.

http://www.carolinaclutch.com/MainCa.../Flywheel.aspx

Although I could've sworn I bought it for less.

04accordcpe

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What's wrong with your flywheel? Why not save yourself some $$ and resurface yours

Abe_Froman

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$300?! Good find! I'm gonna bookmark this for when I need to do a clutch job.

Flywheel: $300
Clutch: $225
Labor: $250-$300

Total: $775-$825

KN_TL

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For $300, I would replace it. The work you have to go through if someone screws up the machining would be worth it to me.

94eg!

$225 is not a good price for the clutch kit. Order the parts from different places and save some money.

http://www.google.com/webhp?rlz=1C1G...=1920&bih=1087

http://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?LH_Ti...08-047&_sop=15

$300 is the best price for the flywheel, but it used to be about $200 around a year ago. I guess it's a sign of the times.

gotrwd

225 is pretty high I purchased my clutch on partsgeek for $150 shipped for the clutch, pp and bearings

Last week I saw the flywheel for $250 shipped and didnt jump on it
im kicking myself now.

And for $300, it is much easier to just replace the flywheel without worrying about the resurface job

Xiomaro

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I did it when i had the CM lightweight FW. It suuuuuucked

JD TL-S

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Where would you have this work done for $250-300

I had an 06 TL Manual that was slipping right before I tradded it in on a new 2010 Camaro SS. Thats part of the reason I tradded it in.

Acura quoted me $2,500 for parts and labor. I also called a few shops and they wanted about the same ?????

Abe_Froman

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My mechanic, but you're not local unfortunately.

He specializes in Acura/Hondas. He used to own a 3G TL.

gotrwd

So for future reference,

$150 shipped for LuK clutch/PP/bearings of partsgeek.com #(08-047) i think
$250- $300 for LuK dual mass flywheel DMF062 carolinaclutch.com or ebay

$400- $450 repair to oem specs
Labor: Depends, subframe has to be dropped to remove tranny

Hope this helps, would have help me in my search

Thanks guys!

KN_TL

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I copied everything from my service manual and I'm going through it now.

Sure isn't a trivial repair.

94eg!

Definitely not. Honda claims the pressure plate must be compressed before the bolts are tightened down in order to keep from damaging the self-adjusting mechanism. To do this they require a whole bevy of tools.

Some folks have just bolted it down and not had a problem (that they are aware of).

KN_TL

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Thankfully I don't have to worry about that. I am installing the twin disc Tilton and LWFW.

I suppose as long as you cinch it up evenly and gradually, it won't damage anything.

gotrwd

Damn so who has installed the PP without compressing it ? Im doing the job this weekend and will post results


EDIT: Called LuK, Pressure plate comes PRE-LOADED so you just need to install and with first clutch engagement , PP will self adjust

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

ez12a

Cool, let us know how it goes. I'm interested to see the results.

94eg!

That's pretty cool news. I went to their website the other day to send an e-mail about this, but then I guess I got distracted.

gotrwd

Work is done and a success, breaking in the clutch for 500 miles.
LuK was the original clutch in there, didnt even know

I have my OEM flywheel which is toast but im going to resurface it to see if it can be done

Thanks for the help ! Hope this helps anybody trying to a OEM clutch job instead of upgrading

jprows

Hey how did resurfacing the flywheel go? I'm in the same boat... wondering if I should replace or try to have it resurfaced. Updates would be great.

jprows

Does anyone know if LUK DMF063 will work well in an '05 TL? I know that part is supposedly for the '03 CL but it's $70 cheaper on carolinaclutch.com right now AND there is a blerb on the 062 page that says "Special Notes:
can use DMF063" I need to order a new one right away - my car is on racks at Honda with a technician waiting for me to order the part FML lol. Any input is great. TIA

Jeff

brian6speed

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03 cl parts can be used on the 05 tl. The cl just needs a cl specific flywheel. Cl flywheel works on tl. Tl flywheel does not work in the cl.

This limits my options in my 03 cl to oem clutch or cm clutch that needs modification to engage/disengage properly.

bubba68

where can i get the tool to compress the clutch???

JJH

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From Luk, for a few thousand dollars. Maybe $xx,xxx.00

triax37

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Update: prices are now $170 for #08-047 clutch kit and $225 for the DMF062, free shipping, through Amazon.

Joey tl

ASSCO LW FLYWHEEL works on stock clutch....... heeltoe has the option to upgrade from stock to a LW flywheel