04_6SPEEDTL

Title explains it all, just wondering how tough this would be to accomplish. Would the motor and tranny fit? Is there a possibility of the car being able to be converted to AWD?? I by no means have the funds for this type of job but like i said just a thought. I love my TL to death and just want to explore every possibility for it. Let the posts begin.....

INTEG-

motor is straight drop in. its still a j series engine. idk bout the tranny.

Gnargasim

Im pretty sure someone somewhere was doing something like this with a type s that was wrecked. just saying food for thought

03tLsNBP

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its already in progress. theres a thread somewhere about it but it hasnt been updated in a long time.


IMO its too much money to convert. i would just buy a 2012 TL SH instead.

csmeance

It would be hard to get power to the back of the car since there is no "tunnel" for a rear drive-shaft to go through in the car. Along with that, mounting up a whole rear differential would require modifying the rear seat area a bit. This was discussed a while back and a whole list of things that would be needed to be modified (top of our head stuff). The entire list would add up to a small fortune! SH-AWD is a complex system in it's own and AWD requires space that the 3G TL doesn't have.

dimagg08

The 04 TL has a 3.2L engine, dropping a 3.7L which might be a tad bit bigger should fit since they are both a J series engine. I doubt you'd be able to convert the FWD to an AWD

Comptechtl2367

This has been covered already... Ill try to find the thread.

Ken1997TL

Better off getting an '05 RL since the structure of the car is meant for such a thing.

wheelz420

I have an 07 TL Type s and an 05 Acura RL. I don’t car about the funds I love the type s and think it would be awesome awd and you never see that in the type s to my knowledge so I’m doing it. Any help for this project your be awesome. The Tls and Rl have the same wheel base and motor so it shouldn’t be to hard making everything fit.

619rcr

search for j2k adapter. there is at least a couple out that use the crv parts. s1built does a lot of awd setups. they had a 2g tl on their youtube a yr ago, and mentioned they were gonna use it for R and D. but nothing lately. They recently showed a 5th gen prelude with a J and said they were working on something. but, all you see is civics and integras on their site.

Bense

The J2K adapter is a terrible route to pursue. There is a guy that I was talking about that told me how much money he has spent trying to do all of that on his 8g Accord. He's got over 10k in parts alone. AWD in 8g Accord is a true bolt on affair using parts from 4g TL SH-AWD.

AWD J in 3g TL / 7g Accord requires fabricating a rear subframe. While that in itself wouldn't be too terribly difficult, it would be easier and cheaper to just clean up a 3g TL, sell it, and buy an 8g Accord Sedan, and then do the conversion.

619rcr

Good to know.
Can't say I like the look of a sedan accord over TL. 8g coupe is my favorite, just too much $ for what it is.

champaned_out

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unless you're planning on fabricating everything yourself, this is going to cost way more than what the normal person is willing to spend.. even if you have the funds and the parts on hand how are you going to route the drive shaft to the rear with no pathing to the rear end? on top of that where are you planning to mount the rear diff? these cars are about to hit the 15 year mark and not a single person as far as i know has successfully converted a 3rd gen type s to sh-awd.. that right there should tell you all you need to know about how difficult something like this would be.. you would need to chop up the entire back half of the car to make room for parts that were never designed to fit in the first place, good luck!

Bense

Even if you did put all of the work in and got everything to work flawlessly. The amount of time that you would have spent would be way, way beyond the amount of time that you would have spent to clean up a 3G and sell it. And the money that you spend converting the 3G TL to the SH-AWD would end up costing more.

There's really only about two scenarios where I could agree that it's worth pursuing;
1) If you've got your own fabrication equipment and a lift and you're doing it for fun, a learning exercise and/or using it to generate hype and publicity for something like a YouTube channel
2) The vehicle itself has a lot of sentimental value; such as a car that a friend or family member had before they died.

justnspace

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#2 still doesn't make sense. if attached by sentimental value, one would keep it in pristine condition

I'll add #3; if for some reason, it's a dedicated track car where one cuts out the back half to fab up dedicated suspension/AWD setup....going back to #1; hype for youtube or just want learning/practice on fabricating

Bense

I built a transmission to a guy that was continuing to build a car because it was something that he and his father used to do together before his father passed.

justnspace

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was it a TL?

619rcr

im not suggesting pursuing either idea. but the few fwd to awd setups I've seen online are race cars with hood exit exhaust. the driveshaft can then run down the stock exhaust tunnel. The rear diff requires a custom cross member and trailing arms. depending on the space available, the stock tank could be removed in favor of a trunk mounted fuel cell. all bolt on parts from another car of course is ideal.

based on the awd dyno results of the new tls, 280whp from a crank rated 355hp, expect 20% loss thru drivetrain, which wouldnt be worth it to me unless the car is 400+ hp. there is a reason this thread died.

Bense

I don't want to go into further details about something so person about a previous customer of mine, but I will say that it was not a TL. It was just another arbitrary Honda. Nothing special or really unique about the vehicle other than the memories he had with his father.

Bense

That's true. However, there has been a lot of development that has occurred with Honda AWD stuff since then. I do know of one guy that did a bit of welding / fabrication for the rear subframe of a 7g Accord to make it AWD. That project hasn't progressed in 2+ years. Last I heard it was dead. In any case, better option would be to just switch over to 4g TL / 8g Accord.