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Old 04-03-2013, 04:17 PM
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3.5l Type S calipers installed on a 3.2 base

Looking for some answers.....new to the Acurazine world but like what I see and read alot of posts and spend alot of time here.
The problem is my car has more go then stop! ( Might be the way I drive it...lol)
I have a 2008 Tl 3.2L base model, and I'm a rotor slayer....They are heating up and warping on me. I know the Type S model has an upgraded brake system larger rotors and calipers and want to know if the two systems are interchangeable?
Can I buy Type S calipers (From a local parts out car) and Install them on my base model. Is it as simple as swapping calipers and installing larger rotors, or do I need to change the caliper anchor plate etc....etc?
I have been looking at big brake systems, but not sure if that is the answer.
Big brake system-1200$ U.S.D. + shipping (Live North of the border)
TypeS calipers-400 C.A.N. and no shipping
Any advice would be good
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:44 PM
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you will need the arms off the type-s since the bolt patterns are different. Or you can do what most people do and get the RL brakes, get brackets made, and use 350z rotors.

the RL will probably set you back 600-700 bucks. depends on how much u can get the rotors for, how much paul charge for the brackets, pads and rotors.
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What do you mean by "Get brackets made" for the RL route?
I would like to get the TypeS system, but I need to get the arms too?
Not to sure what part the "arms" is?
Are you referring to the part that the caliper bolts too, then this part bolts to the systems knuckle?
The Type-S calipers are from a scrapped car parting out and they want 400.00 bucks for the left and right side....
If so that makes sense because if the calipers are larger the brackets will be too, but will the brackets/arms bolt directly to the 3.2L stock factory knuckle left and right side?
If so maby I can get a package deal on the calipers and brackets
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You need to buy the 3.5 type s knuckles also with the brakes. Looking at about another few hundred more. This has been discussed on here before.

Go to google and type in brembo brakes on base tl acurazine
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I meant knuckles not arms. sorry its been a long day. Look up RL bracket in the search. They are much better and can use larger rotor then the TL-S.
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Too much work to go with the TypeS kit
Im going to get a bolt on BBK
Thanks to WOJO for the proper direction!
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I just purchased the RL swap. Much better than the brembo route IMO.

Here's the link. You will need to source your own calipers but here is everything else
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/ht-spec-b...rder-page.html

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What the hell it the TL diet?
I get it you lost weight but what the hell did you get rid of?
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just buy xlr8 comptech BBK. I heard nothing but good review about it.
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Dudes; we have found out that using the RL brakes messes up braking bias BIG TIME.
this means you will stop LONGER.

Dont do the RL calipers.

Also the auto calipers stop SHORTER than the brembo calipers.

BBKs are ONLY for brake fade.
this means if you're tracking the car or doing MULTIPLE HIGH SPEED stops the brakes wont fade

p.s the manual transmission base models came with the brembo brakes.

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What kind of brake pads are you currently running? OEM?
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Originally Posted by bmadden
What the hell it the TL diet?
I get it you lost weight but what the hell did you get rid of?
Just a few things that you wouldn't notice. There's a thread called the tl diet that has everything and the weights.

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Dudes; we have found out that using the RL brakes messes up braking bias BIG TIME.
this means you will stop LONGER.

Dont do the RL calipers.

Also the auto calipers stop SHORTER than the brembo calipers.

BBKs are ONLY for brake fade.
this means if you're tracking the car or doing MULTIPLE HIGH SPEED stops the brakes wont fade
I searched quite a bit on both the brembos and the RL swap and I didn't find anything like that.

I guess I will find out myself. The auto brakes suck though.. they get too hot too fast. Every time I'm getting off the interstate on the off ramp I have to get on and off the brakes because they will get hot and make the whole car shake.
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do you have OEM brake pads? IF that the case its just your pads not the brakes. IF you want to do a simple upgrade. do the legend dual piston caliper upgrade with 12.6 rotors. This is a good upgrade if you don't want to worry about brake bias and what not.

http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/...12.6%20oem.htm

stock is 11.8in
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Listen to Justin, you don't want RL calipers.

Your money would be much better spent on a BBK kit.

As for the auto calipers. Try better pads, better ss lines, and better fluids and see what you get.
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
do you have OEM brake pads? IF that the case its just your pads not the brakes. IF you want to do a simple upgrade. do the legend dual piston caliper upgrade with 12.6 rotors. This is a good upgrade if you don't want to worry about brake bias and what not.

http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/...12.6%20oem.htm

stock is 11.8in
Originally Posted by Maharajamd
Listen to Justin, you don't want RL calipers.

Your money would be much better spent on a BBK kit.

As for the auto calipers. Try better pads, better ss lines, and better fluids and see what you get.
I already have the RL calipers, the 350z rotors and pads should be here tomorrow, and the RL brackets and ss lines will be here within the next 2 weeks. So I can't really not do it now
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
Okay I'm back.

RL Caliper = four 43mm pistons (5808.8 mm sq). TL Brembo = two 42mm & two 38mm piston (5039 mm sq). That's 15.3% more hydraulic area. Even to an idiot it should be plain to see you are increasing the front bias SUBSTANTIALLY just by switching installing RL calipers. But then you throw a 13 inch rotor on top of that??!?!?!? Now you are into complete Retardsville. This setup will DRASTICALLY upset bias, thereby increasing your minimum braking distance (maximum brake effort), and may even wreak havoc on your ABS system. Just ask IHC about his bogus Rotora kit. This is a terrible way to spend money and ruin a great car.



The math proves it.
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Time to find a portion valve, or get a custom one made
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I understand stopping distances has to do with tire grip, but I just find it hard to believe that the base tl 1 piston caliper has enough force to maximize tire grip in a high speed stop.
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^^ Why? Without abs it would lock the tires, thus giving you more than enough power to stop.


Want to stop faster once, get tires. Want to stop faster back to back get better tires, rotors, pads and fluid.
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Another damn deceiving thread title...I should've known it wasn't about someone who actually did the conversion....shame on you OP....
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Eh Fenda Rolla whatcha talking about willis!
Shame on me op!
Conversion..........wtf...?
Shame on you how about teaching instead of preaching.
Not everybody is a knowledgeable as you!
Friggin @!$@!#
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From the title of the thread I thought it'd be about someone who had already done the conversion too...
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Originally Posted by bmadden
Eh Fenda Rolla whatcha talking about willis!
Shame on me op!
Conversion..........wtf...?
Shame on you how about teaching instead of preaching.
Not everybody is a knowledgeable as you!
Friggin @!$@!#
Here's your daily lesson young grasshopper, use ye olde SEARCH buttone....

And I know, it's a daily struggle being so knowledgeable.....but I will try to use my powers for good....

Carry on, and the next thread outta you bettah be about something useful you actually did to your car!
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i dont recall people stating the RL calipers were better than brembo or aftermarket BBk's but rather better "bang" for the buck.
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XLR8 stoptech kit with ST41 caliers.

1100 + free install because you can DIY easy.
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