I just went to autozone and picked up a generic cone filter,

here is a picture




i am wondering if the engine sucking in all that engine hot air is worth it? does it negate the mod?

Let me know

Steve

 

The stock set-up is better than what you have there. Bite the bullet and pick up an AEM CAI. Sure it will run you about two bills but it is a true cold air intake. On top of the performance gains you receive with the AEM the sound at WOT is silly...

 

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on your car with the dual stage intake you a negating the mod. i think everyone will agree. a true intake (i have injen) most prefer aem will be the only way to make a true difference

 

yeah man i think your better off getting an aem intake. lol. i know it sucks pushing out the $

Did those of you guys that installed an CAI on your 07 tl-s feel the difference. How does that hold up to your warrenty from factory.

 

I like your creativity, but I agree with the rest of the posters, just purchase a true CAI. Not terribly expensive and you will probably get a better performance increase.

 

Help me out here but I have not found an AEM unit for the Type S. Am I missing something? I would like to order one.

 

the one for the 04-06 fits. that is what everyone is using

 

grow up idiot!

and thanks to the people who answered like mature adults...

waiting for a TL-S specific intake and don't want to buy it twice..

again thanks for the reponses

Steve

 

I depends on what you want... And how big of dicks your service department is...

The CAI makes alot of noise it whistles, it whoshs (kinda cool) and the service department can claim the the CAI is the fault... I know legally they cant, but still... But on the other hand, I have done tons of crap the voided alot of stuff in my car...

But I am going to wait for the warranty to expire before I do the under drive pulley and intake spacers...

Just my 2 cents...

 

if you're gonna wait for a TL-S specific intake, then keep waiting. Motor is the same...it's just bored from a 3.2L to a 3.5L. but as far as what i see in your picture the intake system should be the same as a previous TL because that's what honda has always done, everything physically related to the intake should be the same because it would cost too much money to R&D a whole new setup. Honda keeps costs down and uses a lot of similar parts in their cars...Hence why the K20A3 was for the EP3 civic, then K20A2 (SIMILAR bottom, different head) for the RSX-S and K20A (type r), and the K20 motor is the same as a K24 which is just a bored out K20...

 

sans...go ahead and get the 04-06 cai like hardtimes said. it fits fine and is definitely worth the money. the only difference is that the manufacturer's haven't changed the marketing print to say 04-07 yet.

it'll work better than the unintentional short ram intake u are using now since the stock intake is like a 2 part intake system and right now yours is probably sucking in warm air from the engine bay. the aftermarket intakes reach way down to the lower driver side front bumper to suck in colder air.

 

dont post if this is all you have to add

 

will never be a tls specific intake.. good luck ..

 

You think the manufacturers will wise up and at least list the 07 TL-S on it application list?

 

Awhile back I did a little test concerning underhood temps just for the fun of it. I put a temperature sensor next to the battery but not touching it and ran the sender wire thru the firewall and into the car (2000 TL) where I had a digital readout gauge. Outside temps were in the fifties F. Once the engine warmed up the gauge stayed at 115 to 120 degrees all the time. Freeway or redlights, 115 to 120. I was amazed. I thought for sure at freeway speeds the outside air would cool things off. Nope. So I put the sensor under the battery tray down low behind the bumper and as expected, in the fifties all day long. So I'd say feed your intake from there for denser air and free housepower! Hope this has helped.

 

Whats the expected power increase of an AEM CAI over stock type-s intake?

 

type-s intake is no different than stock intake. I have CAI, UR pulley, and outlaw engineering thermoblock spacers and I dynoed at 261whp and 241wtq. That is approximately 306 hp so I have about 20 horsepower more than a stock type-s. So I would geusstimate the CAI as acheiving about 7-8whp.

BTW IMO I think that is a little too cheap to go with this car. I would be kind of embarassed to open my hood and show it to anyone if I had that filter set up. I am not trying to sound mean or anything, just stating my opinion. I bet it sounds awesome though, a lot louder than the CAI for sure.

 

[QUOTE= BTW IMO I think that is a little too cheap to go with this car. I would be kind of embarassed to open my hood and show it to anyone if I had that filter set up. I am not trying to sound mean or anything, just stating my opinion. I bet it sounds awesome though, a lot louder than the CAI for sure./QUOTE]

Whats too cheap? The AEM CAI, or the stock intake? What brand did you go with?

 

What CAI do you have setup in yours? Do you have any under-hood pics? Also, did you go with the underdrive or the stock diameter pulley? HP gains?

 

I just ordered my AEM intake... now I play the waiting game!

Are they a PITA to install? Anybody?

 

Wow, this info is really helpful in understanding temperature differences!

To the OP, that photo brings me back to the old 5.0 Mustang days, where this setup wasn't the best, but was FAR better than stock. I like the creativity! Things have changed since those days though.

I personally have kicked around the AEM CAI idea, but I'm a wuss, staying stock for once, and hoping to milk this engine for everything it's worth. Whether the aftermarket filters are better or worse is always debated, and I've always had aftermarket on other cars, but it seems as I get older I'm not at WOT nearly as much as the younger days anyway!

 

I went with underdrive pulley. Like I said with my 3 performance mods I gained 20 wheel horsepower.

 

I had a little bit of a hard time with one rivet that holds the resonator onto the inner fender well somwehere in there. I ended up getting all that crap outta there finally though without much sweat. I didnt remove the front bumper though, only undid half of the r/f wheel well.

 

ok, well i just bought a tl type also, two questions for ya guys. which is better, aem or injen , which year do i go by cause of the 3.2 to the 3.5. also should i take the black plastic off in the summer to keep the heat away under the hood? lastly, how can i change rim size without scewing up the computer with the tire pressure and the vsa( i think that is what it is) the traction control? sorry to ask again if alrealy answered

 

Some testing has been done and for the most part the AEM is better. Go by 04-06 TL when ordering any performance parts. Taking the plastic off is personal preference, I have all of mine off. Rim size wont sc rew up computer. You will get lower profile toires and in essence have pretty much the same overall size. You can buy the TPS sensors to go in your new rims too. Thats what I did, bought 4 more TPS sensors and put them in my 19's so if I have my stockers on in the winter or 19's on I always have my TPS functionjal. Traction control has nothing to do with the rims.

 

Here is my open filter set-up.


TLfourplay, it does scream @ WOT...

 

so basically if i wanna go 18's , what size do u think tire wise so my tire pressure will remain reading , and the stablity control will also be functional. also where can i get the tps? thanks for gettin back

 

you can go on most sites like tirerqack.com and they will have calculators to show the diameter difference so that may be your best bet. I am running 245/35/zr19's. Stability control, TCS, and TPS will all function no matter what kind of tires you buy. I ordered my TPS sensors from a Honda dealership. Something like 120 shipped.

 

hahaha i did the same thing i have an AEM now but i did at first just for the noise factor. I took an intake my friend had for his 93 Lightning and kinda shoved it in there, it sounded cool but didn't do anything

 

i will say, on the G35, some people actually do something similar, they use the intake tube from the 350Z and put a matching cone filter on it. Their setup is a little different though, their filter faces the front but still in the engine bay.

I've also seen people do this on accords and such. It's basically a short ram. It might help, AEM's TSX intake is also a short ram with decent gains, but generally a fender/cold one helps more.

Of course as mentioned, on a $40K car, it's a bit ghetto looking. Probably doesn't help it's an orange fram looking filter.

If you insist on doing this, you should take out all the extra intake tubing below the cone filter, give it a little more space to breath.

Finally, with any intake, make extra sure all the joints are tight. It's easy to be sloppy and then have grains of dirt sucked in for god knows how long, thus lightly sandblasting your engine the whole time.

 

Believe it or not, this is how the Franken Car CAI is setup on the previous gen Nissan Maximas .. and a LOT of people claimed stellar results on that.

think of it this way -- you cut ALL turbulence/drag from tubing, etc and get crazy flow to the throttle body. And of course, you have this incredibly hot air... with the Nissan Maxima, the overall outcome was a positive over stock -- perhaps it's similar or worse in the TL. Gotta dyno test it or take it out to a track w/ before and after runs to prove any result