2004 TL 6MT Dyno'ed
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Originally posted by Davediego
wow, I'm shocked at how un-smooth the torque curve is compared to the cl-s 6 speed. acura sure can't claim a broad and flat torque curve for this TL
wow, I'm shocked at how un-smooth the torque curve is compared to the cl-s 6 speed. acura sure can't claim a broad and flat torque curve for this TL
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ah you're right, i should have paid more attention to the scale. i think the old type-S engine claimed peak torque from 2500-5000 (or something along those lines) though, not just 90%. has acura issued a statement for the torque on the 04?
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Steve, you are a crackhead.
that Dyno is from my car, it's not a 6spd, it's an auto.
that's why there's the torque spike early in the graph, its the TC locking up. LOL
that Dyno is from my car, it's not a 6spd, it's an auto.
that's why there's the torque spike early in the graph, its the TC locking up. LOL
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Originally posted by Astroboy
Steve, you are a crackhead.
that Dyno is from my car, it's not a 6spd, it's an auto.
that's why there's the torque spike early in the graph, its the TC locking up. LOL
Steve, you are a crackhead.
that Dyno is from my car, it's not a 6spd, it's an auto.
that's why there's the torque spike early in the graph, its the TC locking up. LOL
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http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=69991
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Fixed: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/stevte...tock_EricS.jpg
All the other CL-S6 dynos show the engine making peak torque very early in the low-end before the manifold switchover also.
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Originally posted by ferizzo
The new TL-6 is not a second faster than a TLS/CLS auto to 60 or in the quarter. There is no 13-second stock TL-6 but there are quite a few TLS/CLS in the 14.7-15.0 in the quarter. Its faster but not that much faster!
The new TL-6 is not a second faster than a TLS/CLS auto to 60 or in the quarter. There is no 13-second stock TL-6 but there are quite a few TLS/CLS in the 14.7-15.0 in the quarter. Its faster but not that much faster!
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i for 1 drove both cars back to back before i bought my 6 speed i was not impressed buy the auto at all. i had a cl type s auto that would of blown the doors off the tl auto now the 6 peed was a different story, after i backed in the auto i jumped right into the speed and MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE i bought the car after that i was not trading in my cls for the auto tl because my cls was better. i will say the 04 tl is faster than the 03 tls becuase of the simple factor weight on a 03 was more
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Well, I just got the car re-dyno'd and it came in at 250.7 WHP and 228.6 lb-ft Torque. This is with the mods mentioned in my signature. Again, it was dyno'd on a Dynapack. I gained approx. 20 WHP and 19lb-ft Torque. Not too bad at all!
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Originally Posted by GoBig
My TL was dyno'ed today at Church Automotive Testing in Torrance, CA. Church does a lot of development testing for Hondata and Temple of Vtec. See the attached results.
In a nutshell, the care dyno'ed at:
231 Horsepower (Max - SAE) @ 6321 RPM
210 lb-ft Torque (Max - SAE) @ 5303 RPM
Assuming 15% to 17% drivetrain losses (corrected):
265hp to 270hp @ 6,321 rpm
(270 hp @ 6200 RPM - manufacturer's data)
241 lb-ft to 245.7 lb-ft @ 5,303 RPM
(238 @ 5,000 rpm - manufacturer's data)
The other two runs (green and blue) were conducted after the car was already very hot from the first run. As you can see, the car loses quite a bit (5 to 10) horsepower and torque when hot.
In a nutshell, the care dyno'ed at:
231 Horsepower (Max - SAE) @ 6321 RPM
210 lb-ft Torque (Max - SAE) @ 5303 RPM
Assuming 15% to 17% drivetrain losses (corrected):
265hp to 270hp @ 6,321 rpm
(270 hp @ 6200 RPM - manufacturer's data)
241 lb-ft to 245.7 lb-ft @ 5,303 RPM
(238 @ 5,000 rpm - manufacturer's data)
The other two runs (green and blue) were conducted after the car was already very hot from the first run. As you can see, the car loses quite a bit (5 to 10) horsepower and torque when hot.
350Z is rated at 287HP & TL rating 270HP. Those numbers are pretty high.
Anyway, congrats.
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Again, these are on a Dynapack, which typically has higher readings than others. What's important are not the eactual numbers, but the gains. After AEM CAI and Custom Exhaust (no Cats were removed), the following readings were taken:
250.9 Horsepower (Max - SAE) @ 6299 RPM
228.6 lb-ft Torque (Max - SAE) @ 5118 RPM
Gains (over stock) are:
19.7 HP
18.6 lb-ft
250.9 Horsepower (Max - SAE) @ 6299 RPM
228.6 lb-ft Torque (Max - SAE) @ 5118 RPM
Gains (over stock) are:
19.7 HP
18.6 lb-ft
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Those are some bad ass numbers for the TL.
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Originally Posted by ACCURATEin
Those are some bad ass numbers for the TL.
To give you guys an idea of how other cars, like the G35, do on the Dynapack, take a look at the following link:
http://clint.gurgen.com/G35/2004.09....9_04_2004.html
Most of the G35's (w/o ECU mods) were in the 240hp to 250hp range.
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Question,
Does the same engine in a front wheel drive car put less to the wheels compared to being in a rear wheel drive car ? Same engine ?
Does the same engine in a front wheel drive car put less to the wheels compared to being in a rear wheel drive car ? Same engine ?
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Originally Posted by donc
The "other" car I want is an 04 350z touring 6sp and the HP rate from the factory is 287. Dynos show about 230 - 250 RWHP. This is from a 3.5 V6. Since the TL is a 3.2 V6 to me it says the TL is fairly higly tuned. I will wait to see what becomes available for any increases/engine mods. First mod will be Alpine Sport tires...
I debated between a 350Z and a TL for months!! I know they are completly different cars, but i don't have kids yet, and i figured a 350Z would be sweet to own.... I test drove it 3 times.... But, i just couldnt justify it when it wasnt all that much faster, and so much "less" car than a TL... and not nearly as nice. Btw, it is VERY rare for a stock 350Z to dyno any higher than 235ish, during all my time on the 350Z boards, i dont ever remember seeing one as high as 250, almost all of them were 225-235 range.
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Originally Posted by mp3car
I debated between a 350Z and a TL for months!! I know they are completly different cars, but i don't have kids yet, and i figured a 350Z would be sweet to own.... I test drove it 3 times.... But, i just couldnt justify it when it wasnt all that much faster, and so much "less" car than a TL... and not nearly as nice. Btw, it is VERY rare for a stock 350Z to dyno any higher than 235ish, during all my time on the 350Z boards, i dont ever remember seeing one as high as 250, almost all of them were 225-235 range.
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I debated between a 350Z and a TL for months!! I know they are completly different cars, but i don't have kids yet, and i figured a 350Z would be sweet to own.... I test drove it 3 times.... But, i just couldnt justify it when it wasnt all that much faster, and so much "less" car than a TL... and not nearly as nice. Btw, it is VERY rare for a stock 350Z to dyno any higher than 235ish, during all my time on the 350Z boards, i dont ever remember seeing one as high as 250, almost all of them were 225-235 range.
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Originally Posted by mp3car
I debated between a 350Z and a TL for months!! I know they are completly different cars, but i don't have kids yet, and i figured a 350Z would be sweet to own.... I test drove it 3 times.... But, i just couldnt justify it when it wasnt all that much faster, and so much "less" car than a TL... and not nearly as nice. Btw, it is VERY rare for a stock 350Z to dyno any higher than 235ish, during all my time on the 350Z boards, i dont ever remember seeing one as high as 250, almost all of them were 225-235 range.
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Not sure if you guys have seen this articleDYNO DASH 350Z but it compares the different dynos and their readings the test vehicle was a 350Z.
In summary:
Turbo Magazine Dyno Dash Comparison Chart
Dyno HP TQ
Dynapack 249.4 242.8
DTS 257.6 556.5*
Dynojet (Win) 235.8 227.8
Dynojet (DOS) 243.7 237.2
Clayton 265.7 240.6
Super Flow 228.9 226.6
*measured at roller without accounting for gear reduction
In summary:
Turbo Magazine Dyno Dash Comparison Chart
Dyno HP TQ
Dynapack 249.4 242.8
DTS 257.6 556.5*
Dynojet (Win) 235.8 227.8
Dynojet (DOS) 243.7 237.2
Clayton 265.7 240.6
Super Flow 228.9 226.6
*measured at roller without accounting for gear reduction
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Originally Posted by GoBig
Well, I just got the car re-dyno'd and it came in at 250.7 WHP and 228.6 lb-ft Torque. This is with the mods mentioned in my signature. Again, it was dyno'd on a Dynapack. I gained approx. 20 WHP and 19lb-ft Torque. Not too bad at all!
now imagine with headers.... On the dynapack it would put you around 275-280.. wow.....I guess on dynojet it would put you around.. 250-60whp??
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so how much would it be on a dynojet?
now imagine with headers.... On the dynapack it would put you around 275-280.. wow.....I guess on dynojet it would put you around.. 250-60whp??
now imagine with headers.... On the dynapack it would put you around 275-280.. wow.....I guess on dynojet it would put you around.. 250-60whp??
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Originally Posted by pabound
Just to make sure I (we) didn't miss this, are the dyno results WITH the CAI and exhaust upgrades (as listed below in your post) installed?
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