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Old 06-13-2006, 01:50 PM
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05 6speed swap

how hard is it to swap out a auto for a 6speed in a 05 tl?
Old 06-13-2006, 01:52 PM
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I would say trade it in.....
Old 06-13-2006, 01:56 PM
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Not worth the problems and head aches that could arise. you have to change the ECU/ wiring harness/ transmission+ linkage for 6spd. I would trade it in as well!
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Originally Posted by trancemission
I would say trade it in.....

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Poor guy...
Look at his mod list. No wonder he wants to tranny swap, it would probably be easier than gutting all those other mods to prep the car for trade in.

I've yet to figure out why folks put all those high performance mods on an automatic slushbox.
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i wasnt planning to buy all these performance parts.. and i wasnt thinkin at the time when i got the car.. after puttin in the supercharger i regret not gettting a 6speed.. done to much to this car to strip it out and trade it in..
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Originally Posted by tmntmn
i wasnt planning to buy all these performance parts.. and i wasnt thinkin at the time when i got the car.. after puttin in the supercharger i regret not gettting a 6speed.. done to much to this car to strip it out and trade it in..
I am in the exact boat as you are. I wish I got the 6sp also. But after seeing a 6sp on the dyno this weekend with the same amount mods as I have, he is only putting 19more whp and 10 ftlbs of trq. That amount of power is not worth the 5k that it would cost to swap or trade it in.
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Originally Posted by againstallodds1
I am in the exact boat as you are. I wish I got the 6sp also. But after seeing a 6sp on the dyno this weekend with the same amount mods as I have, he is only putting 19more whp and 10 ftlbs of trq. That amount of power is not worth the 5k that it would cost to swap or trade it in.
yeah.. man.. though my car had a bad day.. 19-27 more hp and 10-15 more torque not worth a swap.. maybe a trade in though..
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Originally Posted by bklynpanman
yeah.. man.. though my car had a bad day.. 19-27 more hp and 10-15 more torque not worth a swap.. maybe a trade in though..
Hey it was the weather. It was 75* in there. Ill take it though, you probably paid the same amount for your car as I did, and you have a faster one. I cant wait to see what I put down after the remanufactured tranny and more efficient torque converter. It comes with better bushings, bearings, steel plates, new clutches and flex bands.
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yea it not worth it but i still regretting getting a auto.. cant wait for someone to come out with a ecu so i can get a bigger pulley this 4psi isnt enough
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Originally Posted by tmntmn
yea it not worth it but i still regretting getting a auto.. cant wait for someone to come out with a ecu so i can get a bigger pulley this 4psi isnt enough
I hear you there. We really cant go too much higher cause of the high compression we have. Now if you really want to get more boost have some low compression pistons made, stroke it out and you will get a nice amount of power there.
Old 06-13-2006, 09:48 PM
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You will need:

-6MT Comptech ACM
-6MT alternator bracket for the S/C
-Clutch linkage and pedal
-Stock ECU for 6MT
-6MT transmission
-Shifter and boot
-Wiring harnesses

I'm sure it can be done with a little work and ingenuity. (and of course some dollars)!
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Originally Posted by ACCURATEin
You will need:

-6MT Comptech ACM
-6MT alternator bracket for the S/C
-Clutch linkage and pedal
-Stock ECU for 6MT
-6MT transmission
-Shifter and boot
-Wiring harnesses

I'm sure it can be done with a little work and ingenuity. (and of course some dollars)!
I thought that the comptech supercharger was the same for the 6MT and 5AT. Why would you need to get a new ACM and alternator bracket?
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Originally Posted by againstallodds1
I thought that the comptech supercharger was the same for the 6MT and 5AT. Why would you need to get a new ACM and alternator bracket?
You Dont! The kit is exactly the same for 5AT and 6MT. nothing to change as far as S/C!
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Poor guy...
Look at his mod list. No wonder he wants to tranny swap, it would probably be easier than gutting all those other mods to prep the car for trade in.

I've yet to figure out why folks put all those high performance mods on an automatic slushbox.
Some people have nothing better to do with their money.

And there could be a hard time selling a car with all those mods as they tell a potential buyer that the car was likely 'DRIVEN'
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WHY? Trade in for a corvette if you want serious HP.
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im only 20yr old and i got nothing better to do with my money.. i was planning on stripping everything and selling it cause i still have all the oem parts too it.. but i dont think it worth it
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Originally Posted by againstallodds1
I am in the exact boat as you are. I wish I got the 6sp also. But after seeing a 6sp on the dyno this weekend with the same amount mods as I have, he is only putting 19more whp and 10 ftlbs of trq. That amount of power is not worth the 5k that it would cost to swap or trade it in.
But he was down 10whp that day because of plugs an resonators he just put in i gotta but your balls bro
Old 06-20-2006, 08:37 AM
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By the time you decide that the only practical way to do it is to trade in your 5AT for a 6MT, you'll probably ask yourself -- why don't i just get a 6MT RWD car .. like a G35 or 330ci .. etc.. plenty of aftermarket support for both those cars.
Old 06-20-2006, 09:38 AM
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keep your car man. Sometimes I wish I had a 5AT as crazy as that sounds.
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
keep your car man. Sometimes I wish I had a 5AT as crazy as that sounds.
Doesn't sound so crazy. I occassionally suffer the same wish when I'm in dead stop and go traffic for long periods of time or when I read the highway MPG 5ATers in this forum get. I'm tired of only 25-26MPG at 75-80 MPH when I see 5AT's are getting 30+. The window stickers on the '04's claimed the 6MT's at 2 more MPG highway than the automatic, NOT 2-4 TIMES THE OTHER WAY AROUND as its turned out.

On the flip side, the girlfriend can't drive a stick so she can't borrow it.
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^-thats really weird that you cant break 30mpg. it seems like all the others with 6spd can.
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^-thats really weird that you cant break 30mpg. it seems like all the others with 6spd can.
Not quite, but I can just squeeze 30 MPG if I do 55 MPH in 6th....
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^-you mean people dont drive 55 anymore?
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Not quite, but I can just squeeze 30 MPG if I do 55 MPH in 6th....

I have a 6MT and I get 34 running 70, so I am not sure what you are doing but it will get better then 30. All the 5AT owners I know don't get better then 28 on highway. I have to people in the office with me that have 5AT's. I wouldn't trade my 6MT for anything!! Unless it was a very close ratio 7MT!!! Things to come I guess!!!
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
I have a 6MT and I get 34 running 70, so I am not sure what you are doing but it will get better then 30. All the 5AT owners I know don't get better then 28 on highway. I have to people in the office with me that have 5AT's. I wouldn't trade my 6MT for anything!! Unless it was a very close ratio 7MT!!! Things to come I guess!!!
I already have 15,000 miles on the car and I don't have a lead foot.

And I wouldn't trade my 6MT for a 5AT either ........
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Originally Posted by DMZ
I already have 15,000 miles on the car and I don't have a lead foot.

And I wouldn't trade my 6MT for a 5AT either ........
DMZ's not lying... I drive 82 miles/day round trip at about 70 mph (with a little traffic here and there), and my MID is showing 26, 28, 25, 27 MPG on the last 4 tanks.
I'm at 3500 miles, and am really hoping the engine is just breaking in... cause the milage is sucking right now.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
DMZ's not lying... I drive 82 miles/day round trip at about 70 mph (with a little traffic here and there), and my MID is showing 26, 28, 25, 27 MPG on the last 4 tanks.
I'm at 3500 miles, and am really hoping the engine is just breaking in... cause the milage is sucking right now.
My mileage has never unsucked with this car compared to most MPG posts I've read.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
DMZ's not lying... I drive 82 miles/day round trip at about 70 mph (with a little traffic here and there), and my MID is showing 26, 28, 25, 27 MPG on the last 4 tanks.
I'm at 3500 miles, and am really hoping the engine is just breaking in... cause the milage is sucking right now.

Should get better. Anything longer than 15min on the freeway and my average is above 30mpg
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Not quite, but I can just squeeze 30 MPG if I do 55 MPH in 6th....
If I set cruise to 55 in 6th gear I litterally get 38 mpg
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