Hey guy's I was just wondering, I have a 2004 TL 5/Auto I always have a problem with G37's G35's Maxima's... etc, my car is fully stock what can I do to my TL to make it faster than those cars, please help me out

 

intake for starts. j-pipe (kinda like other cars headers) and exhaust.

 

i got the v2 aem intake. sounds good and good gains too.

 

good gains fosho

 

NOS lol

 

^ uhh you forgot the fosho

 

ibtl

 

I don't think anyone has ever been faster than those cars. What you want to do is unreasonable and dangerous thinking.

 

from a dig, tl's are slower, but from a roll i keep up with those cars no problem.

 

Ive got the exact same car, 04 TL 5A/t and ive been trying to mod it a little too to get some more power
ive got stage 3 (stock) exhaust on it right now. mid-muffler delete with dynomax resonator and stock rear mufflers and i can tell its running better from that.
about to get a cold air intake put on too, i will let you know what kind of gains i see from it.
keep me updated and what you are doing to your car and how its going

 

I'm sure the car sounds better, but there are no gains at all from the Stage 2. It does nothing performance wise, only sound. A CAI will yield a 1-2hp gain, nothing noticeable, again, more for just sound.

OP - Begin with a J-pipe, cat back exhaust, and even PCD. That right there will gain roughly 40hp.

 

i keep hearing about PCD, what is that exactly?
and i have been looking at getting an ATLP j-pipe and high flow cat but just saving up the money right now

 

PCD removes the two primary cats that come off of the engine block. Our cars do not have headers, but these are the closest thing to them. It allows exhaust to exit the engine much faster, gaining HP. hurray!

 

LOL, seriously? Older G35's, Maximas?

 

I talked to my friend and he said that the first thing I should put is a ATLP J-Pipe then ATLP Exhaust, after that Hi-Flow Cat and AEM V2 Intake, maybe I'll just make a custom Intake because their all the same... after that I should take on Maxima's G37's G35's etc without any problem, however I test drove a 05 TL 6 Speed w/ AEM CAI and I was surprised because it pulls sooo good and it beated my 2010 Maxima, the Maxy was 2 cars behind lol! I come home and tell my parents that I want to stay with my TL and they can take the Maxima back

 

Hate to break it to you, but you still won't be keeping up with G37's with basic bolt ons in a 5AT TL.

 

well see about that, those are not the only parts im going to put in yet... you really think that I would make my car be slower than G37 lol I live in NY and all i see is stock G37's 75% of them and ricers that don't know how to race and like I said my friend's 05 TL 6speed/MT w/ AEM CAI, Deleted Resonators, and J-Pipe smoked more than enough G's by like 3-4 car lenghts lol

 

ANX is right. You will need full bolt ons at least to keep up with a G37, even from a roll; unless of course they aren't a good driver.

It seems your friend has run into some poor G37 drivers if he's pulling them by 3-4 cars. I've beaten 1 G37 as well from a roll before my PCDs, but not by 3-4 lengths at all. The only G I put 3 lengths on was a G35 coupe 6MT with CAI and a spacer. His exhaust didn't sound stock though

I'd tell your friend to come see me but I need motor mounts and a clutch

 

I'm confused. Your friend's TL beat a mid/upper 14 second 96-97 mph Maxima by only two lengths, yet he beats mid/upper 13 second, 102-103 mph G37's by 3-4 lengths?

And seriously, you're going to need some type of F/I, whether it be turbo or supercharging, or nitrous to get a 5AT Base TL to trap 103+.

 

lol, his is manual he told me that's all he has, i don't know what he really did to his car but its fast! could it be meth? i mean idk he left my tl by faaar far

 

One sure way is to get jandr turbo kit like Libert69 you'll be pleased ,just a suggestion

 

Where can I find PCD for my car and what are the costs involved with it. like how much does it run and how much would installation be? I know this thing has got to be up there price wise and difficulty of installation..

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/introducing-rv6-v3-precat-deletes-taking-deposits-799908/

^these are the latest n greatest from RV6, they're $345 but won't be released til late january. you'll have to make a deposit of $150 to get that price.

as far as installation, i'm not too sure bc i've never done it...but i'm sure someone will pop in and let you know.

welcome to the forum.

 

Intake, j-pipe, pulley, exhaust, etc

Check out our website at http://store.excelerateperformance.com and put in your vehicle info to see the mods available for you.

 

Guess I know now where all of my Christmas money is going

 

i have an 04 settup. start off with cold air intake(aem my preference)
then i just bought the greddy evo 2 exhaust
and also just ordered the xlr8 jpipe from heeltoe.
also i heard the UR pully does great gains aswell.
there are no headers for our car btw. if you want massive gain you can buy the turbo or supercharger
then nitrous
hope i helped

 

You cant be serious bro. A dropin filter may yield 1-2 hp. But who pays over 200 bux to just get sound when you can just remove the intake resonator for free. The takeda intake whos owner came from Greddy does dyno's of every intake and posts them. So does Injen. They do NOT make 1-2 hp. Also an intake helps to make more gaing with j-pipe/header and exhaust than not having the intake with those mods. Heres info on Takeda's site for CAI and vid. The power is great as well as sound. Nothing sounds as good as a Honda V6. Nissans sounds coarse by comparison. I'll include the G35 intake vid too. You gotta love hearing vtec x-over ...

J32/35 dyno vid 7hp/14tq (Low end is what our engines need more of)

Dyno chart


Video
http://wwww.afepower.com/shop/ytpopu...layer_embedded

G35 Video
http://wwww.afepower.com/shop/ytpopu...layer_embedded

 

That dyno was for CAI. The short Ram makes even more 14hp/14tq.

 

its not likely that with bolt-ons you can gain 40hp. I'd say maybe 7-12 whp with quality bolt-ons at best and maybe a bit more with a tune (if there is such a thing for a TL). I've never seen anyone gain 40hp from a couple of boltons.

 

LOL, spend some time here; check out the dynos. Intake, pulley, pre-cat deletes, J pipe, third cat delete and cat back will add 35 whp to these cars. Add some P&P on the intake/runners and you're gaining over 40 total.

 

Do not believe this. Short rams will often make less power than a well designed factory CAI, which the TL has.

 

Tell him brother...lol. I'm joking...

 

Okay who said you had to? No ones making you believe all cai's outperform theirn short ram intakes but you choose to. I guess you havent seen AEM V2 intakes blow V1 AEM CAI out the water yet all but a few V2 intakes are short ram intakes.

 

to be honest man, the 3G TL is not for racing. it was made to be a luxury car, which to clarify is WHY its a 4 door sedan and not a coupe. obviously we can add on some bolt-on aftermarket exhausts and blah blah, but in the end of the day, our car is a nice looking luxury car. you might see the 3G TL being more popular and being on the road more simply because its resale value has dropped, but it was originally made to give a nice, comforting ride with a semi-sports feel.

If you seriously want some power in this car, it really isnt the right car for you. just my

 

DJMANJU - You are absolutely correct. Most mods I do to my TL are more for function, i.e iSimple and RSB. I like the car for what it is, a nice looking sedan and an excellent daily driver for me with good performance.

ANX1300c - thanks for posting that. I don't believe that every mod you add would give you that much horsepower. You might see good gains from 1 but that doesn't mean your second and third mods would give those same gains. Plus your ECU will adjust to correct for that an you probably aren't making as much as that unless you reflash your ECU to know how to operate under the new conditions. I wouldn't do all those exhaust mods listed above just to run with a stock G, thats absurd. Regarding your original comment about 40hp, everyone knows how generous dyno's can be. I wonder what type of dyno it was that showed those 40hp gained?, if it was done same day?, same conditions?, before and after? I've had plenty of modded cars and NA none of them have picked up that much hp with boltons and I do usually dyno my cars before and after and I never cheap out on parts so thats why i'm skeptical. Not ragging on anyone here or there mods, just saying its hard to believe.

 

I was telling you not to believe it. There isn't much to be gained from the intakes on these cars since the stock one is pretty efficient. It defies physics to theorize that a short ram is going to make more power than a CAI with all else being equal. It doesn't matter if the tube is ten inches or ten feet long; the engine only needs so much air.

Forget the dynos. Plenty of people with full bolt ons have picked up 4-5 mph at the track and time slips don't lie. It takes roughly 10 whp to add 1 mph to your trap speed on a ~3500 lb car. There's no way a stock base 6MT TL with 220-225 whp is going to trap 102-104 mph, but it's been done with fully bolted cars.

 

The length on intake is part of the equation. Dense/cool air adds power too. I guess those engine covers on our engine bay keep sri from sucking in engine heat.