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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 12:57 AM
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So I just placed an order w/ Heeltoe Auto for 07/08 Phantom Audio amp tuned by Jesse L. Kelly! Now, I have an 05 and strangely it's got an 07 amp in there already so someone's messed with this before. After watching videos and hearing other's on the forum talk about it, I've decided to pull the trigger. I also ordered the tweeters along with it! Will be posting pictures soon when installing.
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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lemme know how it goes
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 09:37 AM
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good purchase for someone who doesn't want to mess with replacing stock audio. it's a good solution but not anything like running aftermarket speakers and amp.
there are reviews on here so you don't have to wait for this review haha. there's been many sold and talked about on here.

enjoy!
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sockr1
good purchase for someone who doesn't want to mess with replacing stock audio. it's a good solution but not anything like running aftermarket speakers and amp.
there are reviews on here so you don't have to wait for this review haha. there's been many sold and talked about on here.

enjoy!
Hey thanks for the input! Now if I wanted to go full ham on the sound system I would no doubt about it. But i went this path bc if i ever wanted to sell the car i wanted it to look stock as possible. I love my car to death but if I was to ever fall into a deep sh*t hole then she'll have to go.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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Install and thoughts

Unboxing
Input side (bottom)

Tweeters


Misplaced my pry tools so i used a precision flat head and a spoon

Passenger tweet installed
Driver tweet
Didnt wanna come out
Got'emmmm!!
Driver side tweet going down

You gotta mess with them a little to get them flushed with the dash

Amp install(old amp)
Taking out the first of two 10mm bolts
Top 10mm bolt in an slanted position
Amp install requires a few extensions and a 10mm socket
Finally got it at a certain angle
Damn thing didnt wanna come out

It finally gave in!
PA amp coming in hot!
Plugged back both harnesses and rescrewed the two bottom 10mm bolts
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Dude, you just hacked the dashboard trying to take those tweeters out. Ouch. They come out so easily.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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Dude, you just hacked the dashboard trying to take those tweeters out. Ouch. They come out so easily.
That dash was toast to begin with. Looks like it's got brittle bone disease.

What are your thoughts OP? I agree with sockr, this is a good solution for anyone who doesn't want to go through the hassle of a full aftermarket install. AKA - a good middle ground between stock and full aftermarket sound system.

I did my sound system install trying to keep the car as stock as possible. The only two things I hacked up were the doors to mount the speakers and the harness into the doors to run wiring. I did fiberglass my A-pillars, but will buy replacements. Tweeter grills were also shaved. Radio trims have the holes filled. All of those I would find replacements for if I sell the car. I left all of the factory wiring intact because that can't really be replaced or fixed to OEM standards. One day I'll finish the install and get pictures up.

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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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Difference

So I didn't make a video to compare like a few on YouTube but take my word, THERE IS A HUUUGE difference. When on 10, it sounds like the old amp on 20. It's very powerful. Great lows and fantastic highs. Worth every penny. Thanks Heeltoe Auto!
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTLoud
That dash was toast to begin with. Looks like it's got brittle bone disease.
Sadly the dash came to me like this. And yes, its very very brittle. I'm thinking about buying a brand new dash but I think I've put enough money into my TL already. I pretty much brought it out of the grave. And it looks a lot better than other TL's in my area.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTLoud
That dash was toast to begin with. Looks like it's got brittle bone disease.

What are your thoughts OP? I agree with sockr, this is a good solution for anyone who doesn't want to go through the hassle of a full aftermarket install. AKA - a good middle ground between stock and full aftermarket sound system.
It's an amazing upgrade! When the day comes, if I ever decide to sell it then I know for damn sure whoever buys it is getting a great vehicle inside and out.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WDPanda
Dude, you just hacked the dashboard trying to take those tweeters out. Ouch. They come out so easily.



Nah, OP just got careless when prying (pried on the wrong part of the tweeter) and cracked the dash himself.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi



Nah, OP just got careless when prying (pried on the wrong part of the tweeter) and cracked the dash himself.
true...The dash is already pretty f-ed up. And the dash was pretty brittle. This was my first tweet install and I didn't know where to pry.

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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 12:52 PM
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It's cool, we all gotta learn somehow
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 01:06 PM
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I would just buy a good quality dash cover if I were you. A brand new OEM dash will run you like $750. A used dash in good condition will be (estimating) $300-$500. A dash cover will run you under $100.

I am looking at buying one for my car to protect my dash. Now that you have new audio equipment, the dash mat will also add to overall sound quality. There will be less reflection off the dash cover carpet then the plastic. A lot of guys in the sound quality scene run dash covers for this reason. So you win in two ways.

Glad you're enjoying the new gear! Car audio is a rabbit hole and I'm passed the point of no return.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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For future reference, if you don't have the appropriate plastic un-clipping tools, you can always use a butter knife or screwdriver with a microfiber cloth for protection. It's better than using a spoon
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wusty23jd
For future reference, if you don't have the appropriate plastic un-clipping tools, you can always use a butter knife or screwdriver with a microfiber cloth for protection. It's better than using a spoon
No the spoon was to support the screw driver that way it wouldn't cut the dash...But since my dash has seen better days. Also I'm Asian, we don't have butter knives. It's either a giant butcher knife, pairing knife, or a long cutlery knife lol. My house has every knife you can name. ALL but a simple butter knife.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 02:56 PM
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No the spoon was to support the screw driver that way it wouldn't cut the dash

so how'd that work out for you?
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 03:29 PM
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hows the amp effect the bass levels?
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
so how'd that work out for you?
It kinda worked lol
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 05:32 PM
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hows the amp effect the bass levels?
Deeper basses and excellent lows. To make sure I knew there was a difference, I turned off the sub then just made sure all the sound was being produced from the front and boom.
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 05:58 PM
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So according to Heel Toe, if you have an 04-06 TL, order the 07-08 Phantom amp because it will be better than the 04-06 Phantom amp?
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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
So according to Heel Toe, if you have an 04-06 TL, order the 07-08 Phantom amp because it will be better than the 04-06 Phantom amp?









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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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WTF? So first he says the amp isn't an improvement? Then he says it is?
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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WTF? So first he says the amp isn't an improvement? Then he says it is?
Yeah it was kind of confusing! I just took his word and went with it, hence the right or wrong heading. It made my system much clearer so I like it!
Give it a shot, if you don't like it return it.
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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I noticed there is a bass plus amp available as well now...........anyone on here given that a shot?

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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGuti
I noticed there is a bass plus amp available as well now...........anyone on here given that a shot?
That would've been what I had gone with if I didn't have the 07 amp in.
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 07:37 PM
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Not sure if I want to eat the $70 core charge....
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 07:51 PM
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Not sure if I want to eat the $70 core charge....
I sent mine in on Monday, the same day the amp came in. I'll update on core reimbursements when I get them. It's pretty hefty but I think it's fair.
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 08:03 PM
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Yeah, but I don't have an 07-08 to return, meaning if I order the 07-08 version I'll eat the core charge.
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Sensation
That would've been what I had gone with if I didn't have the 07 amp in.
what do you mean?
my understanding is you can order the bass plus amp which is made for 04-06 amps as well as 07-08 amps. If you have a stock 07 08 amp, you can get your 70 core charge refunded after sending it in.

not sure what you mean....
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Yeah, but I don't have an 07-08 to return, meaning if I order the 07-08 version I'll eat the core charge.
try the bass plus then. I wanna know how it is too.
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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what do you mean?
my understanding is you can order the bass plus amp which is made for 04-06 amps as well as 07-08 amps. If you have a stock 07 08 amp, you can get your 70 core charge refunded after sending it in.

not sure what you mean....
Sorry to confuse you...My car is an 05 but when I went to look at the stock amp I compared the part number and it turns out someone had already replaced the original amp with an 07 amp. Get it? The previous owner b4 me apparently changed the amp.
Core charge is right. Try out the bass plus. If you don't like it return it. ALL amps(04-08) are all compatible with each other. But yes, if you wanna eat the core charge then go for it!
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 11:43 PM
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well you don't really eat a core charge. its kindve like a mail in rebate I guess, except you have to give up your stock amp.
since we shouldn't have any function for it after ordering jesse's amp, im all for that.
ill be most likely be putting in an order for this amp.
gotta work a lil OT first to justify it....lol
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