Remote Start Stock Remote??
11-16-2007, 04:36 PM
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Remote Start Stock Remote??
I was in the market for getting a remote start installed and i want to keep the stock remotes for reasons such as stock look memory seats truck pop and the such.....i dunno if anyone has done this i read a few threads and people say that certain alarms can be added onto ur stock keyless.....but didnt make any mention of what remote starts they would be any suggestions i havent bought a remote start yet and i have an 04 TL auto tranny of course
11-16-2007, 05:28 PM
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I read in the RL forums that one guy put in a remote start and had it hooked up to the lock button, so if it were pressed twice, the beeping noise would activate it.
11-16-2007, 05:41 PM
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It is possible. BUT... as soon as you remote start your car the remotes go dead. Did you ever notice that when you're car is running you can't lock or unlock your doors? If you use your OEM keyfob to remote start your car, you'll have to unlock the door with your key.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
11-16-2007, 07:01 PM
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here's the problem with this approach. the OEM keyfob doesn't have any range. so even if you do get it activated successfully which i don't believe would be the problem. you still need to be relatively close which almost eliminates the benefit. i want to be able to activate it from inside my home if it's parked street side and have it be all nice and cozy when i step outside a few minutes later.
11-16-2007, 07:13 PM
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ok well range isnt too bad for me i dont mind going to my front door to remote start it....heres a novel idea tho......what if u were to program it to i dunno say hit unlock twice and it starts the car then u dont have to worry about unlocking it.....ooorr if u could disable the panic feature and have that as a dedicated remote start button....cuz well ive never ever ever used that but these are just ideas.....i wish there was someway to have aftermarket keyfobs do memory seats cuz thats all i really care about
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11-16-2007, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by uncald4
It is possible. BUT... as soon as you remote start your car the remotes go dead. Did you ever notice that when you're car is running you can't lock or unlock your doors? If you use your OEM keyfob to remote start your car, you'll have to unlock the door with your key.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
11-16-2007, 07:44 PM
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yes yes and yes
You can have remote start with your stock keyfob the sequence goes normally like this lock unlock lock and it will start or hit the lock button 3-4 times
the range not a problem i always use the remote under chin and i swear by it it triples the distance for me.
and ill find out what one i have and let you know
You can have remote start with your stock keyfob the sequence goes normally like this lock unlock lock and it will start or hit the lock button 3-4 times
the range not a problem i always use the remote under chin and i swear by it it triples the distance for me.
and ill find out what one i have and let you know
11-17-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by uncald4
It is possible. BUT... as soon as you remote start your car the remotes go dead. Did you ever notice that when you're car is running you can't lock or unlock your doors? If you use your OEM keyfob to remote start your car, you'll have to unlock the door with your key.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
The older Acura TL, CL and RL had an actual alarm module under the passenger seat. With some rewiring you could trick the alarm module into thinking that the car is not running yet. This let the remotes lock and unlock even after you remote started the car. All newer Acura/ Honda cars have multiplexed security systems. This means that it's integrated into multiple modules throughout the car. No way to trick it.
11-17-2007, 11:43 AM
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I understand why u would want to intergrate the remote start on the factory remote. Just keep in mind that the aftermarket remote has atleast twice the range and u also have the option of getting a two way remote to receive conformation that your car properly started ect....
11-17-2007, 02:28 PM
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I agree, the aftermarket remotes do increase the range and if I were to get a remote start, I wouldn't use the stock remote. The range of my stock remote has decreased drastically and I don't know what the reason is. My question is, somebody said that they wouldn't mind standing in front of the car to turn it on...does that not defeat the purpose of the remote start?
I'm interested in getting one too but which one would be a good buy? Clifford maybe?
I'm interested in getting one too but which one would be a good buy? Clifford maybe?
11-17-2007, 04:09 PM
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well theres two reasons why i dont mind standing in front of it and remote starting it bc A. I live in South Jersey (Home of Camden, NJ) i wouldnt leave my keys in my ignition in a convent around here.....and B. when i say in front of it i mean like 10 feet away.....from my front door i.e. warmth of the house
11-17-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 3pt2TypeS
well theres two reasons why i dont mind standing in front of it and remote starting it bc A. I live in South Jersey (Home of Camden, NJ) i wouldnt leave my keys in my ignition in a convent around here.....and B. when i say in front of it i mean like 10 feet away.....from my front door i.e. warmth of the house
...what systems were you looking to get?
11-17-2007, 07:37 PM
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compustar makes one that is programable to do all of the things you want. the only issue you will have is unlock but you could just put your key in the door and unlock it. as for theft if its running, not happnin. if you step on the brake it will shut down. they might steal everything in your car but not your car
11-17-2007, 08:28 PM
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CompuStar is a great alarm/remote start. For some reason my customers hate them. I've got a BMW 330CI in my shop right now that I'm pulling one out of. Most people claim that they "have to have it" because it's the only fail safe remote start for manual transmissions. But it's such a pain in the ass that the convenience factor is gone.
Have we killed the remote start with OEM keyfob idea yet? Range is poop. You need to unlock your door manually.
Have we killed the remote start with OEM keyfob idea yet? Range is poop. You need to unlock your door manually.
11-17-2007, 08:53 PM
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compustar makes one that is programable to do all of the things you want. the only issue you will have is unlock but you could just put your key in the door and unlock it. as for theft if its running, not happnin. if you step on the brake it will shut down. they might steal everything in your car but not your car
11-17-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by uncald4
You factory keyfobs go dead when the car is started. You can remote start the car with the OEM fob but you'd have to unlock the car with the key.
11-19-2007, 10:31 AM
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i dunno what system i want i wanna do it up and get the Viper 990 or whatever it is the full alarm but honestly all i really want is remote start and for an extra 200 i dont think ill use 1/8 of the extra shit that it comes with
11-19-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by uncald4
You factory keyfobs go dead when the car is started. You can remote start the car with the OEM fob but you'd have to unlock the car with the key.
it very simple to do, and is a matter of cutting 1 wire
11-19-2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rbf351
your wrong. i've done it myself. if you know how to properly wire it up the keyfob will still work when the remote start is activated.
it very simple to do, and is a matter of cutting 1 wire
it very simple to do, and is a matter of cutting 1 wire
11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NTP66
Are you talking about a remote starter that uses the factory keyfob to both start the car, and unlock the doors? If so, I've been trying to find out exactly how to do that. Care to shed some light as to how that's done and what is needed?
when you remotestart the car you can lock and unlock the car while it's running. if the car is running with the key in the ignition it will not lock/unlock via the keyfob, just as it does without the remotestart module
all i used was the valet 56x model. forgot exactly which one it was, and not gonna tear my car apart to get to it. the stock remote box is 3 wires, power/ground/signal. you use the signal wire.
11-19-2007, 07:41 PM
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yes it uses the factory keyfob to remote start the car, and also lets the stock keyfob functions work.
when you remotestart the car you can lock and unlock the car while it's running. if the car is running with the key in the ignition it will not lock/unlock via the keyfob, just as it does without the remotestart module
all i used was the valet 56x model. forgot exactly which one it was, and not gonna tear my car apart to get to it. the stock remote box is 3 wires, power/ground/signal. you use the signal wire.
when you remotestart the car you can lock and unlock the car while it's running. if the car is running with the key in the ignition it will not lock/unlock via the keyfob, just as it does without the remotestart module
all i used was the valet 56x model. forgot exactly which one it was, and not gonna tear my car apart to get to it. the stock remote box is 3 wires, power/ground/signal. you use the signal wire.
11-19-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by uncald4
You've definitely got it figured out then. Would you mind sharing what wire you cut? I gave up years ago. We would love you and hug you and call you George!
i did it on 2 honda/acuras (05 Civic, and 05 TL) if i find my old wiring schematics for when i did the install i'll read the notes i wrote, and post them up here.
11-19-2007, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by custom built
i can figure it out just tell me where the factory remote box is
11-19-2007, 08:28 PM
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I prefer Rob
i did it on 2 honda/acuras (05 Civic, and 05 TL) if i find my old wiring schematics for when i did the install i'll read the notes i wrote, and post them up here.
i did it on 2 honda/acuras (05 Civic, and 05 TL) if i find my old wiring schematics for when i did the install i'll read the notes i wrote, and post them up here.
11-28-2007, 09:34 PM
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glad you figured it out. glad your on a forum to help yet dont. forget it . hey it can be done guys all you have to do is figure it out on your own. RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED.
