jjh1234

For all of those looking for a plug and play way to add up to 3 aux ports while retaining your XM Radio (if I am reading correctly). Check out this adapter from P.I.E.

Does anybody have this?

X3 Converter
http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/piex3auxconv.html


Honda/Acura Specific cable
http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/piex3hon03.html

jjh1234

fperkins

Hrm.. I just ordered a Soundgate AUX3 and was going to splice the wires coming from the back of the radio as stated on a few other threads.

This option sounds like it would allow me to use XM + 2 other inputs without having to cut any wires. It looks like the input selector is a little bulkier though..

dman918

Anyone verify that this works???

Chita79

I called and asked logjam if it will work on an Acura TL 4th Gen with Navi and they said it wont. (it will keep the XM, but it will only work if you dont have the Navi system) if anyone wants to double check, that would be great because i really would like to be able to add 2 more audio inputs into my navi system WITHOUT losing XM. thanks!

AcuraTL2k4

I don't understand how these huge companies that only make aux inputs can't figure out the TL. The TL has been out for almost 3 yrs. This is ridiculous.

jjh1234

Here is a post on the PIE forum that sounds like it should work with navi and xm (Granted it's on a TSX)

http://www.pie.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362

I will call PIE (the manufacturer) when I get a chance and ask about the TL.


jjh1234

jjh1234

I just spoke to Tech Support at PIE and he said that it would work with or without navigation. He said that the 14 pin plug that we are dealing with just goes between the head unit and the XM unit. Can anybody with a service manual check this out. The logjam page does say that it's compatible with nav and non-nav equipped. Read it here.

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piex3hon03.html


jjh1234

VelfarreClubber

Looks like the aux solution i've been waiting for

VelfarreClubber

So would this work w/ the Alpine vehicle hub? since i plan to get a alpine screen, alpine ipod module and alpine nav for my Non-Navi TL

VelfarreClubber

Fuck now i got all excited, this is what i want.

P.I.E. Aux In

6.5" Touch Screen


Vehicle Hub


ipod


Dvd Player


Nav

Chita79

now you guys got me all confused... so with an 05 Acura TL with Navi & XM, i can add 2 more audio inputs with these logjam adapters??? im wondering if anyone here has already done this and whehter or not the audio on the aux RCA's also get muted when the navi talks to you and when the BT is being used just like the rest of the stock audio system.

jjh1234

You get 3 inputs + pass thru for xm, and since you are using the xm input it should get muted just like OEM. I am thinking of ordering it, but my only concern is I don't want to tear apart the dash on a car that has 700mi and only 1 payment so far.

jjh1234

Chita79

im in the same boat jjh.... hmmmm, decisions decisions...

so what exact parts do i need to get 3 inputs and the pass for XM?

also, how do u change sources? (selector switch?)

fperkins

I don't tihnk you need to tear the dash apart... can't you just reach around the back and unplug the connection? Isn't this the same connection that you splice into if you want to manually provide an AUX input?

iTISTIC

Did anyone get one of these in yet and start the install? This seems promising..

jjh1234

It should work for any line level audio source. I'm not quite sure what all this Alpine vehicle hub does.

fperkins

Ok, according to the PIe instructions found here: http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piex3hon03.html they reference a plug. According to this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=screwdriver
So... it seems as if you get the two PIE connectors, you can add 2 more aux inputs, without losing XM radio, without having to take the dash apart. I guess we need someone to confirm though...

jjh1234

You need the two parts listed at the beginning of this thread. If you look at the picture of the x3 unit, you will see a little wired remote that has a button and 4 LED's. You use the button to select the active input and the led shows the active input 1,2,3,cd(XM). I plan to add the blitzsafe universal iPod interface to one of the inputs and save the others for DVD or game

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzuii.html

jjh1234

Yes, it is the same 14 pin connector. It may be possible to reach around back, but you need to connect 1 wire to a switched +12v source as well, which I don't understand because the harness already has this. Maybe its so they could add the inline fuse. I would also be installing the Blitzsafe universal iPod adapter as well and that needs constant and switched +12. I don't know if I could route all those wires without taking the radio out. It would be nice. I will have to check out the back of the radio when I get home on friday.

jjh1234

Chita79

so this install actually involves cuttings/splicing wires in order for it to work properly?

jjh1234

Looks like one wire for switched +12v. Look at the wiring diagram on this page

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piex3hon03.html

I believe this harness already has this switched +12 to the XM in it, so you probably could tap into this new harness to get it.

Does somebody have the wiring diagram page for this connector from the acura service manual?

jjh1234

fperkins

Ok, so this is what you would need to do if you go the PIE route:

1) Wiggle out the plug behind the radio. This doesn't involve removing the dash. See the bottom of thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=screwdriver

2) Connect the two PIE connectors

3) Provide power to the PIE switcher. I don't see why you couldn't use the "add a fuse method" which has been used for other variations of this install

4) Mount the switch somewhere.

I see no reason why this wouldn't work. Seems like it would only cost about 60 bucks in parts... needless to say... I'm still going with another variation just because I already ordered some parts.. well.. I guess Ill see once I attempt to snip the wires which way I'll go ;-)

Chita79

i wonder if anyone has already done this on here... i would love to hear a good review on it!

fperkins

I found this in the thread I previously linked to:
That should be easy enough to test with a volt meter.

Chita79

who is gonna be the guinea pig and try out the PIE aux input solution for our TL's? :P

jjh1234

I'll be happy to take guinea pig donations. Seriously, I'm thinking real hard about doing this. I just ordered the ProClip Angled Mount and I want to see how that looks before going any further. Maybe next week.

jjh1234

fperkins

In my accord, I was using a Proclip mount, but I don't like the mounting options for the TL. It looks like the upper mount would block some of the top LCD display. I'm currently thinking of installing it using a vent clip over the left hand side driver's vent. The instructions to remove the vent cover isn't that hard either so I can run the wires in the vent and out the back of the dash. I hope to have it done in the next week or so.

Ron A

Here's the scans for the audio system, sStereo amplifier connector inputs and outputs, and the XM receiver connector inputs and outputs.

dman918

Pfff... I'll be more than happy to order the stuff today if I was to get a few bucks in donations for a write-up and whatnot...

special-ed

Ok guys, I'll make the jump using the p.i.e. since I want to retain my xm functionality and I want a clean install, meaning I can't f*cking stand to look at wires dangling all over the place, so need your help and I'll order it tomorrow (friday) and install it myself next week since I'm blocking out time anyway for another mod.

So, just to confirm, I'll need the following right?
1. P.I.E. X3-HON03 X3 Wiring Harness for Acura & Honda Vehicles $29.95
2. P.I.E. X-3 Multi-Source Auxiliary Input Converter $59.95
3. Blitzsafe UII Universal iPODŽ Interface $59.95
(other route would be to run mini-to-maleRCA-y-splitter plus rca extension for audio out and do hack-job on cigarette lighter power adapter for ipod power for relatively less....$30-40 bucks tops)

I guess the only other thing I need to confirm is that based on the connector I/O that Ron provided from the service manual, this p.i.e. harness will be connected to the head unit's xm connector port (connector B) and the other 14pin connector on the harness will go to the actual XM receiver's 14pin connector. The other connector goes to the p.i.e. converter.

The cd "button" on the p.i.e. source selector will be the button that activates our xm. AUX1 button will be for the ipod for example, thus leaving us 2 aux inputs to be used for dvd/mpeg4 audio for those of us who plan to install LCD's for the rear.

Options:
1. If we really wanted to drop some additional cash, you could take out the blitsafe UII interface, throw in the harmon-kardons idrive unit and plug it up to the P.I.E. thus giving you full ipod integration, clean plug-n-play install, with option for routing audio from an external dvd/mpeg4 source.

For those with the new gen iPod's with video or external hard-drives capable of playing mpeg4, you can also run an A/V cable from the top of your iPod and use the video cable to run to your dvd-to-nav converter or directly to you rearset LCD monitors (if they can take video inputs directly....my set of clarion's can....) therefore eliminating the need to purchase/install an external dvd player.

If all this looks/sounds ok, I'll buy tomorrow. Glad I didn't drop $500-600 on the AVelectronics unit...

04TLMan

Interesting. But what do you mean about:
"or those with the new gen iPod's with video or external hard-drives capable of playing mpeg4, you can also run an A/V cable from the top of your iPod and use the video cable to run to your dvd-to-nav converter"

The top of my new video IPOD only has an audio output. But if you are saying that we can get the Video out of the IPOD on the NAV display...that would be cool.

I am think of the say implementation just to get rid of the wires and get better sound quality over FM. I plan on substituting the Blitzsafe with the Belkin power adapter that has an mini plug output. I hope I can get the mini to RCA Y cable that will connect into the PIE input converter.

Chita79

the avelectronic's $550 video switcher is for adding video to our OEM Navi screens for the most part (not as much for audio)...i still need to do get that for my modded xbox project! (i wish it wasnt so damn expensive though!!!)

Let us know your progress on this PIE Install... if it works out, im definately gonna go this route too! Im curious to see if the audio sounds good and if the navi/BT voice stuff still mutes all the aux input channels like the stock system too!

thanks!

jjh1234

Go for it special-ed. I would install the 3 parts that you listed. You are right, the CD would be the XM in our case. Let us know how it goes. I'm too chicken to rip up my dash right now. I have heard that you can get to the 14 pin xm connector from the back without removing the radio. If so, I don't know if you could run the cable for the iPod or the +12 wires for the PIE and Blitz from the rear as well.

jjh1234

Dennis in NH

The top of the video iPod is also for video out. If you buy one of those AV cables -- looks like a headphone jack on one end and has red, white, and yellow RCA plugs on the other side, you can plug the iPod video (I don't have an iPod video but do this with my iPod Photo -- I'm assuming the video works too) into a TV and see the video.

Also, note that you can use your standard AV cable that comes with most camcorders -- you just have to reverse red and yellow plugs -- sneaky Apple tries to get you to buy theirs claiming that others are not compatible.

Dennis

VelfarreClubber

Sounds good bro, go for it

special-ed

parts ordered.....I'll post pics when they show up.

04TLMan

I see what you mean. There are no books with the IPOD, so I never noticed the video out. So now I want to hook up the video source to the NAV display.
But I also want to get the video and a backup camera some day. Anyone know how to do that. What we really need it a A/V switch. All the ones we see are just Audio. The only thing I can find is the $250 unit or a $500 unit from AVElectronics. But that only does video. I want it all in one.

Any ideas?

Right now my plans are for a complete plug& play
- http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/piex3auxconv.html
- http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/piex3hon03.html
- http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=148894
- http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=149006

I got the belkin charger for xmas with the IPOD, so for less than $90 more I get an integrated system with no custom wires.

Chita79

i wanna hear the review of these PIE converters/adapters to see if they sound good, and easy to install without taking out the dash. I'm also wanting to hear if you can indeed keep the XM with the PIE's installed.

theklassic

parts ordered as well. should be here in time for a weekend install.

mvalpreda

I'm looking at doing the same thing, but I want to add video as well.