dkmcclelland

We just bought a 2006 TL with Navigation and there are a few things that don't seem to be adding up.

The Nav disc in the trunk is Version 3.30 from 2003. When looking in the menu on the Nav screen it says "updated 20030902" Does this mean we have the September 2003 Maps?

Also, there are hardly any roads that have been here for at least 3 years that are on the map. No POI are accurate, or that seem to be.

When I select a destination to navigate to it calculates the route, then whenever it cuts out the front speakers to tell me to turn, for instance "turn right in 500 yards, etc etc" it is just quiet. I never hear a voice. The voice is set to maximum in the settings. I've tried male and female voices.

Also, whenever using the voice command to say change the temperature or CD whenever it doesn't recognize the command it pauses again and I don't hear anything.

One final thing I have no clue how to fix is the clock on the upper display will say for example 3:00 PM when it's only 12:00 PM. The clock in the navigation unit says the correct time and when I change it just to see if the upper display clock will change, it does nothing.

I've seen someone somewhere say they had the same problem I hope someone can help.

The closest Acura dealership is 2 hours away.

HELP!!!

Will Y.

Yes, you're stuck with maps from 2003.
Either someone dropped an old disc into your Navi, or they swapped out the Navi drive in the trunk with one from a 2004 TL.

You should have version 3.50 DVD at least-- check the Black Market section here to buy a 3.50+ white Navi disc (current version is 3.90, $185 + SH from Acura/Navteq), then load it into your Navi drive. Hopefully, the software updates on the Navi DVD will correct your problems.

if not, there are a couple of other threads here about the silent Navi and incorrect time display issue.

dkmcclelland

Does it help at all that when I crank up the car it has the "Honda" emblem on the navigation not the "Acura" A?

Oswald Vater

If the nav boots up with the Honda emblem it means someone put a Honda disk in the drive. I would spring for the latest version Acura disk your unit will take and see if that fixes your problems.

DMZ

I once upon a time accidentally once got the H symbol with the Honda system instead of the Acura when the system mysteriously reset itself. Don't know how it happened, but I got the on-screen Trip Computer and instantaneous MPG guage that came with the Accord. Seems both systems are on the same disk.

Someone definitely did a swap job on your DVD. If you bought the TL from a dealer, I'd go back there and let them know, BIG TIME. Otherwise, I would spend the $185 and get the latest DVD. It fixed most of my Navigation problems that plagued me from the original 3.30F disk. They're giving free shipping until Jan 31st.
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Will Y.

Ah ha!
It sounds like your Navi was a "hacked Navi" before-- customized to avoid the initial warning or "nag screen" upon start-up, or to display instant MPG, etc.
Do a search for the hacked Navi threads (there are lots) and clock display in this Audio sub-forum.
Also, the 3G Garage linked in the main AZ page may have info on the customized Navi software.

IDK if a new(er) disc's software will correct the issues, but it's worth a try if you don't find the specific answer in one of those threads.

dkmcclelland

So the Trip Computer in the info settings on the NAV screen where it shows instant MPG's is a hack? It didn't come with that? UGH... I don't know how to un-hack anything or hack anything...I don't want to mess it up... I just want it to work like it's supposed to. Any idea where to figure out if it's been hacked guys??

Will Y.

I meant "ORANGE," not "white"- 3.50 or higher ORANGE disc.

Yep, you have the symptoms of a hacked Navi.
The standard MPG display is in the MID and is not instantaneous, but shows the cumulative MPG since the most recent reset.

Get a newer orange 3.50 or higher disc-- when inserted, the software on the disc should update your system back to stock and override the hacks, IIRC.

Otherwise, to maintain the hacks, check out the stickied thread here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-audio-bluetooth-electronics-navigation-94/navigation-hack-guide-welcome-screen-mod-trip-computer-ok-button-nag-removal-604912/.

G/L.

dave_ramkumar

iTrader: (5)

i get the honda sign all the time now on my navi and it dosnt work now, it says cant aquire signal or something like that, and i cant change my clock either ,i went to the dealership and they said they cant do nothing cuz i have a honda navigation system in my car and that i have to call acura customor service, this was like 6 months ago and now im just too lazy to fix it i just use the navi on my iphone

dkmcclelland

That doesn't solve my problem. I hate AT&T and the iPhone. Thanks anyways though.

dkmcclelland

Our friend has a 2006 TL with the 3.50 in it and we stuck it in there and nothing...

The version I have is called 3.30F what is that?

Will Y.

The 3.30F is from '04-- my guess is that the owner who performed the Navi hack did it before the hack files could be updated for the '06, so he/she used the the '04 disc and corresponding hack files.

The alpha at the end indicates that the disc has some software updates, e.g. 3.30F had additional updates which 3.30E did not have.

Maybe you can borrow a 3.70+ disc and try loading that instead of the 3.50 to see if that helps. IDK if there is any thread on reversing the Navi hack, though.

dkmcclelland

I just read that if you put the original (i.e. a 3.50 disc) in the drive, and pull the battery cables off for 30 seconds, then put them back on the original system files will boot on the Navi, anything about that you know?

I'm trying to find a cheap 3.50 or 3.70 disc on the black market, but no luck thus far.

DMZ

The dealership you went to are morons. When the H symbol happened to me, Acura of Manhattan simply reset the entire system.

Who did you buy this car from? I'd let them know what's going on and scream at them if you have to. You were scammed! If you bought it privately or from some used car lot, I'd make the seller pay the $185 for the new disc and/or whatever repairs may be necessary to make the Nav system work properly again. Since you have an older DVD in there than the car was originally supplied with from the factory, you can take the seller to small claims court, and you'll likely win.

Your only hope is to try the the 3.9 DVD like I did. Inserting it will load the software and reset the system.
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dkmcclelland

So you had the same problem with the "H" and the voice feedback not working?


How did the Acura place "reset the entire system?"

DMZ

I don't remember whether the voice worked under those circumstances, and I have no idea what they did to 'reset' the system. That's what they said they had to do.

maddsiick

go to the diagnostics screen and there should be a reset for the nav system there. if not, disconnect the battery, leave it for a while then plug it back and it should reset and reload from the disc. i would defintly look at somehow getting the 3.9 disc though, either make the place you bought the car buy the disc like DMZ said or take them to court because thats some really BS that you have an older disc than the car came with.

dkmcclelland

Tried both of those today and it still has the Honda emblem and no voice feedback. I'm going to try resetting from a 3.50 disc this week, if that doesn't work I'm out of ideas... the Acura place had no clue..

dkmcclelland

Loaded a 3.50 disc today and now the navigation has voice feedback, but the clock and the "H" symbol, and the trip computer are still there. Anybody know how to Un-Hack a Navi?

ezkaban

dkmcclelland - may i ask where you purchased your vehicle from? i just bought a 2006 TL from carmax 1/23/10 and i'm experiencing the same issues. i took the car back this morning and they are arguing that the 2003 version 3.30 disc is correct, and that it doesn't matter that the Honda symbol appears. they even suggested there might be something wrong with the car (then why is it certified?!). i think i'll call carmax corp office.

ezkaban

Anybody? Help, please! I'm on my 3rd trip back to Carmax. The last two discs they "ordered" to replace the 3.30 haven't worked either. They were 4.55, not sure what that even means. But they said any Acura's navigation discs should work on my TL. The 4.55 wasn't even able to load, the screen read, "disc error."

I basically need to know exactly what disc to tell them to order.

Will Y.

The '04-'06 TL Navis use an orange 3.XXdisc-- 3.90 is the current DVD.
The '07-'08 TL Navis use a white 4.XX disc-- 4.81 is the newest DVD.

The website has a drop down menu by model and year and is located at: http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INT...dMenuItem=Home

ezkaban

Thanks for the info. The latest disc they put in was 3.50 so now the voice command works but the dashboard clock is 3 hrs 10 minutes off. And when I look up restaurants it routes me to Kentucky. I've got no beef with the South but I live in the L.A. region.

They told me I'd have to return again when their "radio" guy is in next week!? I'm going to demand they just order me the 3.90 disc from Acura's website because I'm convinced they're simply roaming their lot trying to find Acura's and swapping the discs while I wait in the office.

Will Y.

Since you've got that 3.50 for now (probably the disc version your car originally had), go set your location in the Navi to "CA" per the Navi manual-- that may get your locations and time back on track.
Check the "settings" pages on the clock adjustment, too.

dkmcclelland

I don't see where you do that

dkmcclelland

We bought it from a dealership in Atlanta, Ga. They say they won't replace the disc. Not sure what to do from here.

DMZ

An Acura dealership?

If you want to let them get away with this bullshit, that's your choice. I SURE AS HELL WOULDN'T!
By the time I was done with them, they'd be begging me to let them buy me the disc.
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gatrhumpy

iTrader: (1)

The navigation voice should be coming out of the center channel, not the front driver's side speaker. It sounds like your center speaker is disconnected somewhere. Pull off the center speaker cover gently and check the connections. Do you hear sound coming out of it when you play a DVD-Audio disc?

dkmcclelland

I borrowed someone's 3.50 disc and I downloaded the software from that. It's all working except it has the instant MPG's and it still says Honda.

ezkaban

Just got the 3.90 disc uploaded and it automatically set to CA, where I live. The menu, when uploading, still says "H" (my friend's '09 TSX says Acura) and the dashboard clock is still hours off (the navigation clock has always been correct) but at this point I'm just glad to have directions to the real thing rather than a big blank field when driving to Best Buy.

dkmcclelland

No not an Acura dealership.

dkmcclelland

To fix the clock... just do what I did... wait until 1 AM and go out and disconnect the battery for about 10 seconds, then connect it back... It won't reset the navi but it will reset the clock at 1 AM... Not a perfect solution, but it works.

flint

iTrader: (2)

I hate to bring this back from the dead but...I just bought a used 2006 TL with this EXACT same problem. I have disc version 3.30f in the unit, no voice commands, my clock is a few hours off, and I have the Honda symbol on the welcome screen. Also no subwoofer or center channel control. I have disconnected the battery for hours, pulled fuses to no avail. I have been researching and trying to fix this issue for two days straight. Does anybody have more suggestions? I am ready to drive it off of a bridge.

Will Y.

Just the same one-- get an Orange disc of 3.90 or higher, install and let it update the Navi.

G/L.

flint

iTrader: (2)

Took care of this problem today. Somehow I ended up with a 3.30f version orange nav disk. Somebody must have switched it out at some point. although the maps worked, voice commands were gone and the clock didn't sync. Replaced it with a 3.50 orange disk, disconnected battery and radio fuse waited an hour and put it back. Everything is perfect now. Acura welcome screen, voice commands, clock synced up. I can tell you it didn't work until I disconnected the battery. The voice commands worked again immediately but the Acura welcome screen didn't come back and the clock didn't sync until I disconnected the battery. This 100% works. I know other had this problem as well. Thanks to everyone here for leading me in the right direction. I was VERY frustrated. Now on to fixing my dead HFL...

quanaman

iTrader: (4)

I lived with the stupid clock problem for a year before I figured it out.

Hold in your MENU/SETUP/CANCEL buttons and that will bring you to a complex menu......look around in there. Theres a functions button you press (if i remember its the 3rd or 4th one down from on the right or something) and somewhere it should say clock...and theres a button to send the time to the display.

I can't remember exactly where the option is but there is one to let you override the stubborn car and put the clock where it needs to be...i was so mad that i lived with a wrong clock for over a year and it took all of 10 seconds to fix.

senjudy

"Hold in your MENU/SETUP/CANCEL buttons and that will bring you to a complex menu"
This does nothing to me. I have used 2005 Acura TL. Can you explain more on how to bring the diag screen?

senjudy

Found another post at different thread:
"hold MAP/GUIDE, MENU and CANCEL for 5 secs

anytime after you hit the OK button"

I will try this soon...

senjudy

I see the diag screen now, but there's no button to send the time to the display. There's GPS Offset button but that does nothing either."