Motorola V710 Users: Read about the bluetooth settlement and read what you can claim

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Old 09-27-2005, 10:33 AM
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Motorola V710 Users: Read about the bluetooth settlement and read what you can claim

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/f...tices/v710.jsp
Old 09-27-2005, 10:56 AM
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woohoo! just in time for the cdma rzr v3!



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hey mobilezen: is it fact or fiction that the rzr will have a cdma version?
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hey mobilezen: is it fact or fiction that the rzr will have a cdma version?
Sometimes around September 2nd, the CDMA version of the RAZR was cleared by the FCC. If Verizon wants to sell big, they will have this up and going before Thanksgiving.

http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=1604
Old 09-27-2005, 01:55 PM
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mobilezen, good info on the V710 and the RAZR (CDMA). Thanks!
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holy poop, the lawyers are making out nicely.. 6.3 million!

Does the V710 not work with bluetooth in Acuras?
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Originally Posted by spool32
holy poop, the lawyers are making out nicely.. 6.3 million!

Does the V710 not work with bluetooth in Acuras?
The problem with the V710's bluetooth is that they crippled the file transfer protocol so you couldn't load ringtones, wallpaper, or any other customized material.
Old 09-28-2005, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mobilezen
The problem with the V710's bluetooth is that they crippled the file transfer protocol so you couldn't load ringtones, wallpaper, or any other customized material.
you can still use a transflash card to do these things, can't you?
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Originally Posted by PTN
you can still use a transflash card to do these things, can't you?
I believe so ... just not through bluetooth
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you had to purchase the phone before January 31st, 2005?? That bites.
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Originally Posted by mp3car
you had to purchase the phone before January 31st, 2005?? That bites.

Yeah, thats some BS right there.
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Anyone know if these features are available on the E815?
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WHAT!?! what about the Sony Ericsson P910a!!!
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I'm thinking of taking the option of returning the phone for credit toward a new one but I have a few questions.

They say they will refund up to the purchase price. What exactly is that, I dont have a receipt.

Also, what new phones are out that would be a good exchange?
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if you do not have the reciept they will give u $200
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One thing to keep in mind is that the paperwork says it's not exactly finalized. This settlement could still fall through at the very end.
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Does anyone know how long you would be out of a phone? I got the settlement in the mail, and it says that if you want to keep your service but give up the phone you will have to ship it to them. I'm assuming they have to get your phone before they give you a settlement and I can't be without my phone for a few days.
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Originally Posted by rstark
Does anyone know how long you would be out of a phone? I got the settlement in the mail, and it says that if you want to keep your service but give up the phone you will have to ship it to them. I'm assuming they have to get your phone before they give you a settlement and I can't be without my phone for a few days.
good point, i'd like to know this as well
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If i baught my v710 before the cutoff date but already have service, am I still a part of the class?
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Compatible Verizon BT Phones?

Is there a list of compatible BT phones from Verizon? I noticed one of the options on the V710 settlement form is to return the V710 for the purchase price of a new phone. I was wondering which of their other BT phones were compatible with the TL and do any of the other phones have the ability to upload the phone book from the phone to the TL? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by architect55
Is there a list of compatible BT phones from Verizon? I noticed one of the options on the V710 settlement form is to return the V710 for the purchase price of a new phone. I was wondering which of their other BT phones were compatible with the TL and do any of the other phones have the ability to upload the phone book from the phone to the TL? Thanks.
I was leary of this option for a number of reasons. First, they will give you a refund of what you paid, but will they charge you full price on the new phone or new subscriber rates. It wasn't really clear from the wording.

The other reason is, look carefully at what you are signing. It said something about YOU WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A DIFFERNT PHONE THAT WASN'T CRIPPLED. If that's the case, why would you get another phone from the same company that is crippled in the same fashion? I'm worried that choosing this option might be grounds to invalidate your claim.

Finally, I don't think the TL has the capability to upload your phone book no matter what phone or vendor you get.
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Originally Posted by midas69
I was leary of this option for a number of reasons. First, they will give you a refund of what you paid, but will they charge you full price on the new phone or new subscriber rates. It wasn't really clear from the wording.

The other reason is, look carefully at what you are signing. It said something about YOU WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A DIFFERNT PHONE THAT WASN'T CRIPPLED. If that's the case, why would you get another phone from the same company that is crippled in the same fashion? I'm worried that choosing this option might be grounds to invalidate your claim.

Finally, I don't think the TL has the capability to upload your phone book no matter what phone or vendor you get.

Your right, it's not clear what the terms of a new phone would be. I don't recall the statement about "...buying a different phone that wasn't crippled" but I do remember that the settlement stated that you must own another Bluetooth enabled device that supports object exchange or file transfer features - so does the TL not support these features anyway?

One thing is for sure, the attorneys will come out of this with some pocket change!!!
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I just looked it up at the link in the first post of this message. It's listed in Section A of the form titled "Certification under penalty of perjury." It's statement #4.

I own another Bluetooth enabled device that supports either object exchange or file transfer features or I had intended to purchase such a device.
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Unfortunately the V710 and E815 are crippled intentionally by Verizon to get the users to use their online services to transfer pictures ringtones, etc.
There is a relatively simple fix for this by editing the seem file on your phone. The whole process takes about 15 minutes and it unlocks all the phone features while maintaining the phone functionality. I did this to V710 and E815 and had no problems with either phone. You will find everything you need here http://www.inetron.com/
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Originally Posted by Adam9997
Unfortunately the V710 and E815 are crippled intentionally by Verizon to get the users to use their online services to transfer pictures ringtones, etc.
There is a relatively simple fix for this by editing the seem file on your phone. The whole process takes about 15 minutes and it unlocks all the phone features while maintaining the phone functionality. I did this to V710 and E815 and had no problems with either phone. You will find everything you need here http://www.inetron.com/
Can you send me the link that goes directly to the V710??? I clicked the link but I couldn't find what I wanted. Thanks.
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Can you send me the link that goes directly to the V710??? I clicked the link but I couldn't find what I wanted. Thanks.
I think you will have to subscribe to the board. It's free
http://www.inetron.com/index.php?opt...d=50&Itemid=70
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Just a word of advice. It might be a good idea to call Verizon and check to make sure they got your paperwork. I just talked to somebody on another forum that called them and they claim they never got it. Fortunately they say that they got mine.
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crap. i missed out on this thread and just found out (either i never got the letter or my wife threw it out :-(

any advice???
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Angry Why the e815 still crippled?

I know the economic reason for crippling the Bluetooth profiles in Verizon CDMA phones.... greedy bastards that they are.....

...and it pisses me off that I spend heavy dollars for a technically advanced phone only to have the carrier cripple its better functions....

But, if Verizon lost a class action law suit on the 710, why do they still do it with the e815 that I just received from them?

Do we need to start another law suit?

Or was it simply a matter of notice/deception on the 710?
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Verizon is probably justifying now that they have the warning on the package now so they are legally entitled to do so. I'd say if you're in an area where Cingular or T-Mobile offers you service as well...switch to a GSM provider.
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Verizon is probably justifying now that they have the warning on the package now so they are legally entitled to do so. I'd say if you're in an area where Cingular or T-Mobile offers you service as well...switch to a GSM provider.
In the very smallest micro font, buried on the package is: "This phone does not support Bluetooth OBEX file transfers."

They also say, under BlueTooth features: supports phone book/date book information sychronization with Verizon Wireless Mobile Office Kit. I think this is their version of Moto Office Tools (or whatever it's called) but that relies on a data cord hard connection, doesn't it? Why would they list this under "BlueTooth Wireless Technology" unless they were being deceptive again?

My nephew, a Verizon Customer Service guy, said that the phone will not do a wireless sychro of phone book from Outlook. Is he correct?

What a waste!
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What ever happened to this.

Sorry if Im bumping the wrong thread. . . just tired of being strung along by Verizon and trying to get some answers.

Thanks in Advance,

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For Others Later:

Found the answers here :

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...page=190&pp=15

http://www.vzwshop.com/v710exchange/

Hope it Helps Someone!
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