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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 01:53 PM
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HFL fix **Being sent for baking**

I remember reading a thread that I can not find for the life of me.. Not long ago

To send out the HFL to some guy is Florida who bakes the HFL in some massive oven and charges $45

anyone know anything about this?

If you can provide info so others can see it too..

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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
thanks but thats not what i was looking for. I already tried these methods..

There was a thread about the HFL not working. If i remember correctly people were sending the HFL to some guy in Florida who would bake the HFL in this massive industrial oven of some sort.

THis is the info im looking for.
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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2nd google link...had a post

Originally Posted by sockr1
my bluetooth doesn't connect to any of my phones any more and i can't pair it either. i went to the main HFL issue thread (https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-b...792642/page20/) and i contacted godin technologies. they said it's $45 to fix and out o about 50 people only 1 didn't work after.

i'm going to send mine in this week.
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
2nd google link...had a post
perfect!!!!
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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i don't know if a mod sees this but the godin technologies info (where to send and how much) for fixing the HFL link should be stickied. it's one of the most common failures of the 3rd gen and this guy fixes the problem for cheap.
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 10:50 AM
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I threw mine in a conventional oven for about 5 minutes @ 350°F...

and it worked perfect.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rokaz
I threw mine in a conventional oven for about 5 minutes @ 350°F...

and it worked perfect.
How long has it worked so far?
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DMZ
How long has it worked so far?
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It's been like 3 weeks.
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rokaz
It's been like 3 weeks.
Give it time, more than likely will fail again. Most people have not had long term success with baking. GL

I'm on three months working after repair from guy in Florida.
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eastcoastguy
Give it time, more than likely will fail again. Most people have not had long term success with baking. GL

I'm on three months working after repair from guy in Florida.
thats a good while.. I baked my hfl but only last a few weeks.. THis is why i will be sending it to the florida guy
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:21 AM
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So this begs a question from an engineer, baking basically melts solder. That means there were some cold solder joints. Has anyone ever opened up a HFL and checked for broken solder joints or exactly what causes these to fail?

Mine just today got the dreaded "Booting Up" failure, so I'm in the same boat.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Has anyone ever opened up a HFL and checked for broken solder joints or exactly what causes these to fail?

Mine just today got the dreaded "Booting Up" failure, so I'm in the same boat.
Yes, several posters in the main "bad bluetooth" thread mentioned looking at the joints, replacing capacitors, and one owner tried soldering over apparent fissures rather than baking, IIRC.

You might try sending the HFL to Godin Technologies (mentioned in another thread) for a $45 fix rather than replacing the unit or doing without it.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 12:17 PM
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I get the "booting up" failure on and off for over a year now.
It never affected my battery, but I'm considering sending it in to get fixed just so it works 100%.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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I'm going to disconnect the unit tonight so my battery doesn't die. I will also start to solder some points to see if that helps.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 08:21 PM
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Baked it for nine minutes at 385 degrees. HFL now works!
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Baked it for nine minutes at 385 degrees. HFL now works!
i did the same a while back worked for a good solid week then, nothing
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 12:59 AM
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Its interesting how the HFL dies on some cars and it drains the battery and on others it doesn't..

Mine died about 3 months ago and have had no issues with the battery draining..
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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It's been about four days since I baked mine with no issues. I don't expect it to hold up based on what others have said.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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Same here, baked with no issues for 3 weeks now. Fingers crossed
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 06:31 AM
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So I have noticed that mine only works in the morning and not the afternoon. In the morning I park in my garage (where temps can be about 50-60 degrees), and in afternoon, they can reach 65-70 degrees. The heck!?
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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it basically works the same as an oven, but much much more controlled as it's got different phases in the machine to control the temp at each stage. there are sensors at each stage that provide feedback at each stage. All the BGA's under the processors are melted back to liquid form for a better connection.
my friend has an electronics shop here in Alhambra that can do the exact same thing. I got mine fixed from him and it's been working great so far. Here are some pics of the solder reflow machine it went through. He also added some flux to the pcb to help with the connections overall. I definitely recommend this method.




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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 10:59 AM
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Its interesting how the HFL dies on some cars and it drains the battery and on others it doesn't..

Mine died about 3 months ago and have had no issues with the battery draining..
Dont wait... mine died 6 months ago... battery died last week
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
So I have noticed that mine only works in the morning and not the afternoon. In the morning I park in my garage (where temps can be about 50-60 degrees), and in afternoon, they can reach 65-70 degrees. The heck!?
Yup, mine only used to work when its very cold outside (-20)... after a while it just stopped all together
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:42 AM
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Yeah, mine stopped working. So now I have to determine if I want to try to send this in to get fixed...
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Yeah, mine stopped working. So now I have to determine if I want to try to send this in to get fixed...
send it in! it's only 45 bucks round trip and he said he's only had 1 out of about 60 not work after he fixed it...i think it's worth the shot. i can't live without HFL especially with them giving out tickets for cell phone stuff in california
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eastcoastguy
Give it time, more than likely will fail again. Most people have not had long term success with baking. GL

I'm on three months working after repair from guy in Florida.
About 4 months now, still working fine
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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So is this the address to send the HFL unit?

Postal address
795 Commerce Dr Ste 3
Venice, FL, 34292 USA

Along with a check for $45?
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 06:51 AM
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Shit, my new TL had the same booting issue...I tried swapping but my 04 is a totally different connection.

Looking like I'll be sending mine in.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
So is this the address to send the HFL unit?

Postal address
795 Commerce Dr Ste 3
Venice, FL, 34292 USA

Along with a check for $45?
Check Godin Tachnologies' website for other contact info: Godin Technologies
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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Address is confirmed.
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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I'd wager those BGA packages could be reflowed with a heat gun.
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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for $45 bucks I wouldn't bother.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 12:59 AM
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I had mine done from the same company for $45 and mine lasted a year before having the same problem.
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My repair crapped out finally after a little more than 6 months. Disappointing, guess there is no way around it but buying a new one.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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for as infrequently as I take a call in the car...especially AFTER I replaced it on the black TL and never used it...

I'll probably leave it alone.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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Yep. Disconnected. It's a shame, really.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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Yep...because it was one of the things I was REALLY proud of in the car...one of the first with BT.


That doesn't work.

but I won't bother this time around.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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I actually used it. I hate talking on the phone. So I'd save all my calls for when I was in the car.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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My HFL has been intermittent since I got the car used 2.5 years ago. Luckily it hasn't drained my battery yet but i'm thinking I should probably just up and disconnect it so as not to tempt faith..


Plus disconnecting it probably adds at least 6.9 hpees... so it's a win -win really
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