Finally found something I don't like about my TL...

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Finally found something I don't like about my TL...

Compared to Sirius, XM radio sucks.

I've got Sirius radio in my other car and absolutely love it. I figured XM would be comparible.

Unfortunately "Fred" and "Lucy" don't come close to "First Wave" on Sirius. And the "70's, 80's, and 90's" stations on XM seem to play songs that we didn't even listen to back in the 70's, 80's or 90's. It's like they are trying too hard to be different, to find "lost tracks that don't get played on FM" -- forgetting that there may have been a good reason those songs got lost in the first place.

I also miss my NFL Radio station. Nothing beats 24 football talk when you are in a bad mood. Sorry, but NASCAR doesn't make up for it.

Does anyone know if there is an easy way to swap out XM for Sirius, or is it a completely built in unit? If XM doesn't begin to grow on me, I may have to let my 3 month trial expire. And that would suck...
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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No swapping it out. It's built in. Do a search, someone else had done a nice sirius install in in the lower storage bin of the center console.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EpiK
Compared to Sirius, XM radio sucks.

I've got Sirius radio in my other car and absolutely love it. I figured XM would be comparible.

Unfortunately "Fred" and "Lucy" don't come close to "First Wave" on Sirius. And the "70's, 80's, and 90's" stations on XM seem to play songs that we didn't even listen to back in the 70's, 80's or 90's. It's like they are trying too hard to be different, to find "lost tracks that don't get played on FM" -- forgetting that there may have been a good reason those songs got lost in the first place.
I fully agree. I miss First Wave, Chill, and some of the other electronica stations they have on Sirius. I still like XM enough to subscribe and I listen to it almost exclusively, but I find I absolutely cannot stay on any one channel (except, perhaps, channel 11) for more than four or five songs because they tend to play some lame crap periodically. I'm all for the "deep playlists" and all, but not so deep that I'm scraping the sludge from the bottom of the barrel.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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never listened to sirius so i cant compare. anyways, paying $60 for the rest of the year. not going to complain at all.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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I agree, I wish I had sirius as well, I love listening to Howard Stern and soon he will be gone off the normal air waves and off to his new sirius studio............I should have bought a nissan........ just kidding, Im not that dumb. (btw for those who dint know nissan comes with sirius)
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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XM always got more publicity so one would assume... Anyway, once we get the car I have a feeling my dad will be to cheap to keep up the subscription. I also heard rumors of a merger. Could this be like the radio battle of VHS or Betamax?
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EpiK
Compared to Sirius, XM radio sucks.

I've got Sirius radio in my other car and absolutely love it. I figured XM would be comparible.

Unfortunately "Fred" and "Lucy" don't come close to "First Wave" on Sirius. And the "70's, 80's, and 90's" stations on XM seem to play songs that we didn't even listen to back in the 70's, 80's or 90's. It's like they are trying too hard to be different, to find "lost tracks that don't get played on FM" -- forgetting that there may have been a good reason those songs got lost in the first place.

I also miss my NFL Radio station. Nothing beats 24 football talk when you are in a bad mood. Sorry, but NASCAR doesn't make up for it.
The deeper the playlist, the better! I'd much rather hear a song I haven't heard on the radio for 25 years (or never) that Stairway for the 8 millionth time! And NASCAR may not "make up for it", but Baseball 24/7 sure does! XM is great!
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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and now XM includes opie & anthony, and you can listen to XM online. which is good for work or at home.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Geller
The deeper the playlist, the better! I'd much rather hear a song I haven't heard on the radio for 25 years (or never) that Stairway for the 8 millionth time! And NASCAR may not "make up for it", but Baseball 24/7 sure does! XM is great!
Oh, I'm sure XM is great. Especially for those who have never heard Sirius before and been spoiled. But once you have had Sirius for a while, it is really hard to "settle" for XM.

Like you mentioned, baseball is great. But it's simply not the NFL

Same thing with the music. Sure deep playlists are great. But there is a point where it's TOO deep. Sirius is way deeper than any FM station, but then you get to XM where every fourth song makes you go "What the hell is this garbage" and switch the station. You could literally listen to Sirius all day without considering reaching for the dial...

To each his own. For me, XM just happens to be a distant second.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EpiK
Oh, I'm sure XM is great. Especially for those who have never heard Sirius before and been spoiled. But once you have had Sirius for a while, it is really hard to "settle" for XM.

Like you mentioned, baseball is great. But it's simply not the NFL

Same thing with the music. Sure deep playlists are great. But there is a point where it's TOO deep. Sirius is way deeper than any FM station, but then you get to XM where every fourth song makes you go "What the hell is this garbage" and switch the station. You could literally listen to Sirius all day without considering reaching for the dial...

To each his own. For me, XM just happens to be a distant second.
The difference between the two services is so small, it hardly rates commentary. I tried Sirius for about 3 months in another car, and it was all right. I think XMU is the best station period, and that's not available on Sirius.

Football on the radio? Meh! I don't like football at all, but I'd hate it on the radio. The only advantages on Sirius are: NHL radio (whenever hockey gets back), real NPR, and Air America.

Advantages to XM. Baseball. Rob Dibble. More Baseball. College Football and Basketball. Bob Edwards. XMU.

Big disadvantage to Sirius. XM is on 4th generation chipsets. Sirius is on 2.5. You get faster channel changes, better compression, and a better experience on XM from a technological standpoint.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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I agree that XM's biggest need is NPR.

National PUBLIC Radio should be available on all sources.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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I have to agree that SIRIUS is WAY better than XM. I tried XM for 3 months
when I got my TL. Needless to say, I did not renew the subscription. I thought
that not only was the programing not to good, but the audio quality was just a little better than AM. I have tried SIRIUS and I am hooked! The pics say it all.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jmp54/sit...rius_in_22.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~jmp54/sit...ius22small.jpg
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Prolanman
No swapping it out. It's built in. Do a search, someone else had done a nice sirius install in in the lower storage bin of the center console.
Thanks for the kind words lanman....that was my car....

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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i agree that the 80 and 90's channels are completely worthless and I love 80's music. Sirrius does have an awesome 80's hairband channel that rocks.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EpiK

Like you mentioned, baseball is great. But it's simply not the NFL
THANK GOODNESS... I'm so sick of football.. but personally baseball is only a little better.. I want live broadcasts of SBK, MotoGP, MX/SX, and Formula Extreme.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:25 AM
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I'm thinking about getting the Sirius StarBase unit,
which is also blue and matches the TL lighting...

I read good reviews about it.
and with a lifetime membership, I don't have to pay any more for programming.
(after 4-5 yrs it becomes free satellite radio, prorating the cost,
and if I sell the TL I can always take it with me)

Can't go wrong with both XM and Sirius...



comes with receiver unit, built-in clean FM modulator, remote control, adapters antenna and cables.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=507846
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