MikeRadio

I hope this will help someone, as I wrntbonkers trying to find a GOOD CHEAP program, that is EASY to use as any other program to transfer my 2 channel stereo DVDs to DVD-Audio to play in the RL.

I ended up spending money on Discwelder. This program, for 99 dollars, has one function, no features, a basic interface, and is a waste of money. Don't go there.

I looked at Wavelab. Complicated and VERY expensive.

However, before all this, I purchased a program called Ulead Movie Factory Creator version 4. It claimed to make DVD-A discs. However, although it would create them, they wouldn't play on my home DVD-A player OR the TL. They would sit unrecognized.

And after a few months.. BINGO! A Patch is released. A patch that really fixed this program and it works GREAT!

Now, be sure to buy MovieFactory Creator Deluxe version 4. The component that is used for DVD-A creator is Burn Now 2.0. You can NOT buy this component by itself, however it is included in this poackage which lists for UNDER 99 DOLLARS and gives you a compolete authoring package for CDs and DVDs as well as the DVD-A Creation.

Here are some facts about Discwelder, which I NO LONGER USE:

1 - Discwelder Bronze lets you put 99 tracks on a DVD ... 1 Group. It does NOT SUPPORT DUAL LAYER DVDS. For that, you need to spend nearly 500 dollars for the Silver edition.

2 - Discwelder has NO features,. and a horribly basic do nothing interface. You can not easily even move tracks around on your list. You can not see columns you need even in the view.

3 - Discwelder ONLY will burun uncompressed PCM wavs... those big 44 meg files. So you will have to convernt mp3s or other formats to this to work this program.


AND here are some reasons I use Ulead MoviFactory Now:

1 - You can also only put together 1 DVD group, of 99 tracks. And.. THIS PROGRAM DOES SUPPRT DUAL LAYER DISCS!! It DOES! Perfect for long tracks (Still limited to 99 tracks/1 group).

2 - This program has normalize level features ,as well as an easy to use drag and drop interface and you can set the silence at the end of each track. You can easily move tracks around.

3- NO CONVERSION NEEDED! You can instantly use your mp3 and other REGULAR media files. This program will take anything to use (except protected files). No long process to convert to wav (which will NOT give better quality since the source mp3 is mor compressed anyway).


However, DO NOT FORGET to go to the Ulead Website and DOWNLOAD ALL THE PATCHES FOR 4.0 (4.01) or else the DVD AUdio will not properly create.

Buy this program and see for yourself. it is finally an EASY WAY to make DVDs for the TL.

I searched for months for the best way.. Now that you read this you do not have to.


Please post comments here. I am HAPPY Ulead actually addressed tis issue and fixed this product.

Mike

Hawhyen51

Good to know about the patch for the Ulead program cause there were some earlier posts about it. But have you tried Adobeman's script? It's not a commercial app and consists of freeware programs. Yea, you have to convert MP3s into WAVs which is not really a big deal. It works very well converting 2 channel into DVD-A. All the info can be found here and best of all it's free.

svtmike

Just a few comments on technical limitations of DVD-A:

1) 99 tracks/group is the DVD-A spec. Any program that authors DVD-A's with only one group will have a limit of 99 tracks.

2) Using MP3, other formats than .WAV. DVD-A only supports MLP encoded (that's a lossless compression scheme) streams or uncompressed LPCM streams. Even though the program uses the MP3 file directly, it's still performing a conversion to uncompressed 44.1kHz LPCM on the target DVD media.

Mike

Adobeman

Thanks Hawhyen51 !
and
Yes, you really should try it ...

JackSprat01

Very good info, thanks.

chuck_r

What turned me off completely to Burn.Now was the unpredicable 80070057 error. Put 99 songs in a list to burn and get a 80070057 error message...this indicates that one or more is non-compliant with not a hint as to which or why.

Maybe they've fixed that in the last week or so, if not, well, it tried my patience past the breaking point...

rka224

What type of DVD is needed? Will DVD-R work, or do I need DVD-A?

I tried converting mp3's to DVD audio using DVD-R with ULEAD BURN.NOW and had no luck.

MikeRadio

DVD+R is the one I use and I know that works. Not sure about the minus (-) R's since I have always been a PLUS man first.


Therefore of course you need the right burner.

I have never gotten errors with Brun.Now since this patch. it works great. I know it converts them but at least you dont get errors adding files like with discwelder.

I know there are other programs and scripts but for someone who occasionally wants to make a DVD for the TL without futzing around, this is as good as it gets.

I bought this program for the DVD-A funcionality originally, was pissed when it wouldn;'t work... now am rejoicing because of this patch. Heck, I almost didn't bother trying it but I am glad I did.

Anyone else get positive results with Ulead?

Mike

Hawhyen51

There was a previous thread about +R or -R DVD media and folks using Discwelder or Wavelab (I forget) were having probs with +R as it wouldn't play in the TL. -R media was deemed the most successful in creating a DVD-A disc and being able to play in the TL. But if you have had success playing +R media in your TL, that's great.

ltrs

Let me give a big rah, rah! to Adobeman's script. Free. Works like a charm. And since using it I have 4 discs with nearly 400 tunes to play in my car. I could make more from my collection of 3000-4000 mp3 files, but if I'm honest with myself, there are only about 400-500 songs I consistently listen too.

Adobeman, once again, YOU ROCK, BABY!

oblio98

Does it do 4.0 and 5.1, or just stereo?

Ram4

I used Adobeman's program and it worked great. I want to step a bit further out and get some Double Layer DVDs, as I have a burner that can do them. The main reason is because Adobeman's method will allow me to burn up to 9 Groups with 99 tracks on each group. Now with 8.5 GB on one disc (I am laughing at the fact that my 1997 IBM Pentium 1 had a hard drive of 6.4GB TOTAL and cost $3600!!!) I can really pack on the songs, be it a couple hundred shorter tracks, or all the 20 minute songs by the band Yes.

I collect a lot of concert bootlegs and most of mine are on CDR, but now I am burning them to DVD-R thanks to Adobeman. In fact, the first test disc was a Led Zeppelin show I got from Montreux 1971 that was a 4 disc set, now all on one disc. It sure helps having multiple disc concerts on one disc.

kingkaoppa

Downloaded Patch 4.0 (4.03) and used DVD+R to burn but did not recognized by TL.

Do you have to use Patch 4.0 (4.01) only?

Actuary

Try different media first. that will be quicker than waiting for reply. I cant even start burning. I ripped 5.1 WAVs from DVDA and now Im trying to burn with them but my Burnnow says corrupt file or something.

kingkaoppa

It worked with DVD-R... I guess I'm a negative person...

This was my step:

Ulead moviefactory 4

→ Update 4.0 (4.03)

→ mp3 files

→ DVD-R Media

→ Burned and works perfect


I tried with wav files but no good...
Good luck everyone!

ajrg@sbcglobal.net

Did anyone found new firmware for TL to play DVD-A on +R, +R DL and MP3 ? I contacted TL guys, ELS guys, manufacturer of the player. FYI, RL can play MP3 even on DVD media. Nobody replied yet, I'll keep trying and if anyone finds it, pls let me know ?

Toronto-TL

My TL can read +R DL disks now.

ajrg@sbcglobal.net

How did you do it ?

ajrg@sbcglobal.net

Verbatim +R DL works.

Actuary

Verbatim DVD+R DL Worked? I used same disc to copy DVDA and TL didn't wanna play it.


Does this burnnow can make 5.1 WAVs to DVDa at all? It looks like people are using MP3 files. I am trying to extract tracks from Original DVDA disc then crop them with my favorite tracks to one DVD

Heat03

I have had great success with Adobeman's program. It is not as complicated as it looks, it's free, and works great.
I have now made many, many discs, each of them holding about 80-90 tracks.

I have only been able to create dvd-r's.. every +r I have tried does not read in the TL.

BTW, I have made discs from both mp3's and cd's.

Many props to adobeman for his great, great program.

I now have 6 discs in my player with about 500 tracks... no need for a cd case anymore, or fumbling around in the back seat looking for a disc with a weak 20 tracks lol.

peace out.

Actuary

I got this program to do 5.1 channel discs but so far havent had success

Ram4

Are you using 1 group or more? Are your discs full? You can fit well over 100 tracks if they are short and everything on the disc is around 4.3 GB.

atomarchio

Where did you buy Ulead DVD Movie Factory? Can I use standard (around $50) or do I have to buy disc creator (around $99)

I downloaded the trial but they won't let you upgrade the trial version. How can be sure this will work before I spend the $?

Please let me know. Thanks.

klkitts

I have to add my vote to the Adobe man scripts. You can download and run them frm here: http://home.comcast.net/~adobeman/DVDA/ They work great.

I'd downloaded the Ulead Trial (I actually own a prior version of the program) but it burned coasters (ie. the disks did not work anywhere).

I don't see an value in paying for the ULead program. I also only Nero for burning the disks. You can get info on Nero Ultra Edition 6.6 from here:

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

The nero program is techinically very solid and it has a ton of different capabilities. It is very well respected/reviewed program. Of course, you might not need all of the capabilities that it has. For example, I've used it to make DVDs of photo collections that will play on normal DVD-Video players (not the DVD-Audio player in the Acura). You can also make DVD-Videos of of your MP3 collection for playback on a normal DVD-Video player which is kind of cool - you can get a lot on there - I have not tried using this functionality yet - but I plan to. One thing Nero deos not do is create a DVD-Audio iso (image file) - you have to use the Adobeman scripts for that - but Nero will burn the iso to a disc once you have the iso file.

Just my 0.02.

Good Luck,

Kevin

Actuary

PM'ed you. "wink wink"

atomarchio

I'm voting for Ulead. Just installed the product last night and it works great. None of that converting the files from MP3 to wav.

With the script I could never the image to work right and then Nero would not burn the file onto a DVD for some reason.

This solution from Ulead (it does cost $99 but does everything in one step) I think is much better!

special-ed

so you purchased the DVD MovieFactory™ 4 Disc Creator Edition or the Standard edition?

thanks

atomarchio

you have the more expensive "disk creator" to burn dvd-audio. but I'm finding it's well worth it.

Actuary

it still doesnt do 5.1 channel. i dont have to pay with adobemans script.

special-ed

Hey Actuary,
just to clarify, so whether or not we use Nero, Ulead, or Deepburner, the final product will not be 5.1 channel?

I thought the reason for everyone's pursuit for DVD-A was to obtain the 5.1 channel mix? Or is basically everyone doing this to load a bunchload of music onto 6 DVD's.....in other words to condense their large libraries of mp3's down to 6 DVD discs.

Thanks for any clarification. May end up saving me alot of time if 5.1 is not obtainable through this mp3-to wav-to burn an iso image onto dvd route.

Ram4

I'm doing it simply to get the most wav files onto a DVD. I don't care for 5.1 surround in the car, and I do not care for mp3.

klkitts

I've created about 4 DVD-As with the Adobeman scripts and it really is a lot of fun. I got about 9 CDs on 1 DVD.

I've tested wav's from the original CD against MP3s recorded and the highest quality bitrate (320Kbps) - and I think that you'd be hard pressed to be able to tell the difference. Still, if you are ripping from Original CDs that you own you might as well rip to wav since that is going onto the DVD-A anyway!

BTW, there are some other threads taling about 5.1 DVD-A creation - but it does not seem quite as easy to do this. Also, supposedly, it's possible to create 5.1 DTS CDs - but I have not been able to find the directions on how to do this.

Have you listened to the 5.1 demo disk that came with the acura TL? I really liked the Doobie Brothers track in 5.1 - sounded very cool....

sriteja

Adobeman's program is excellent. Just burned my first DVD for my TL

rumba101

I was able to use Ulead Burn Now with the patch and have had no problems burning DVD-Audios. I find this the most user-friendly way to make DVD-AUDIOs.

triton3k

Has anyone been able to accomplish this with a Mac? Im using a Powermac and im running roxio Toast Titanium version 7. Im gonna give this a try and see if it works and i'll keep you guys posted.

cacicgt7

how much better does the ulead burn now dvd-a's sound compared to let's say a mp3 player on the cassette deck? Very noticeble difference from the speakers? highs, lows??? Just wondering if it's worth it

schrady

You guys should try the "search" feature once in awhile.

www.cirlinca.com

Burns 5.1 dvda perfectly (must have 5.1 source)

I have not made one coaster and its only $35!!!

Does 2 channel as well and DL+R media.

cacicgt7

can anyone input on how this sounds compared to cd's or mp3's over the cassette deck?

Adobeman

If "this" means putting CDs or converted mp3s on to a DVD-A then the sound will be the same for CDs ripped to DVD-A and as good, or a bit less good, for mp3s. (Some programs actually introduce problems when converting mp3->wav which is usually required first to get them on DVD-A) Basically putting CDs and mp3 on DVD-A is about getting more songs on a disk.


But if "this" means true high resolution, multichannel DVD-A when done right it is much more impressive than regular CDs. The key is that not all multichannel DVD-A is actually produced that well. When you do come across those that are they are really cool.