Completed!!!! Non-navi to factory-navi conversion!!!

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Old 04-11-2007, 09:50 AM
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im also considering doing this mod, do the heater and a/c controls work also? how about the touch screen using the heat or a/c? did you have to change/do anything for the radio or is it jus removing the old non navi face and puttin in the navi with lcd in its place?
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Originally Posted by PeteThaPitbull
im also considering doing this mod, do the heater and a/c controls work also? how about the touch screen using the heat or a/c? did you have to change/do anything for the radio or is it jus removing the old non navi face and puttin in the navi with lcd in its place?
Though I commend the efforts of those here who've done this conversion, by the time you're done, you could trade in for a Nav model and save yourself tons of headaches considering all the time and $ involved.

I've always said the best part of buying a Navi model right off the bat is that you'll never be amongst the 10's of 1000's of 3G TL owners that didn't looking back afterwards banging their heads against the wall wishing they had.
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navi conversion question

jptl04, can you please post step by step detailed instructions on how to do this navigation conversion? I have everything needed just want some directions.
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A lot of instructions on how to remove/replace parts are available in the 3G TL Garage (or can be found with a search). A Helms/service manual will help you swap out the parts. You might want to look into purchasing one. Amazon carries the 2004-2006 Acura TL Factory Service Manual (Paperback).
Old 04-20-2007, 12:24 AM
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i traded in my 04AT non-navi ( 47000 miles) for an 05AT w/ navi (25000)..paid a little extra but it beats doing the install myself fearing i may break/screw something up and got a newer car with lower milage for the same price to have a non-navi converted to navi from factory..went with the 05 since 06 didnt have my color choices and im not big into the 07 interior changes
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Thumbs up

Originally Posted by PeteThaPitbull
i traded in my 04AT non-navi ( 47000 miles) for an 05AT w/ navi (25000)..paid a little extra but it beats doing the install myself fearing i may break/screw something up and got a newer car with lower milage for the same price to have a non-navi converted to navi from factory..went with the 05 since 06 didnt have my color choices and im not big into the 07 interior changes
Smart move !

Good luck with it .........
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Is there anyone that knows of someone who would be willing to do the conversion in an 04 TL AT? I've tried PB Acura and Coggin Acura and they both claim that this conversion "cannot be done".

By the way great job on the conversion, seems to be a difficult project to say the least.
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An Acura dealership will not want to attempt something like this (warranty issues). Your best bet is to find a small privately-owned shop.
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Great job!! All those electrical wires remind me of the plastic tubings that I used to deal with when I was a supervisor of a clinical chemistry lab. At that time (about 22 years ago), to troubleshoot a multi-channel (about 15) biochemistry analyzer required lots of patience, because I had to deal with thousands of color-coded tubings that carried chemical reagents, blood or other body fluids. Even today, I still have nightmares about those tubings, which seemed like tentacles of hundreds of octupuses (octupi?) coming at me.
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I am just curious... would you be able to sell this vehicle as an "04 TL W/Navi"?

I know your PIN#, when looked up, will say it is a non-navi Acura TL, but will/can this be considered a 'Navi' vehicle?

Thought I'd ask, it's a little issue incase you want to sell, that is if you would ever sell this fine product
Old 08-28-2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jptl04
thanks, all together the parts cost me $1700, one whole afternoon seperating the wires, then i studied the manuals for about a week, not all day of course, and another half day installing. yes everything works just like a native navi model. why wouldn't it, every single wire that has to do with the navi was connected and found a home..........

btw.... all the parts are from a 2005 model my car is a 2004 they're the same!
my 2004 tsx dvd drive crapped out, and the dealer charges too much 4000 dollars for the part. where can i get a tsx dvd drive for decent price? and can i swap a 2006 dvd drive into the 2004 tsx? hopefully you guys can guide me in the right direction. thanks.
Old 08-28-2007, 01:00 PM
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Congrats

wow you really wanted Navi bad.............that pile of wires would scare the sh out of me

Congrats
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Hey man, thats an awsome job!!! congrats!

just imagine, ive actually done a 93 tl nav install with just the connector ends that were cut off and the electrical manual. never the less, it got done in less than a day.
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I've posted the following info elsewhere on Acurazine.... but I figure I will spread the news.

If you are looking for an inexpensive way to obtain the wire harness connectors without having to buy a bunch of expensive wire harnesses.... I'm selling OEM style, brand-new, connectors with pins that you can crimp yourself. $10/connector - go to geekeng.com and send me an email... let me know what you need, I'm sure I'll be able to hook you up.

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cant see the pics??? can u post again???
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GE, do you have the 22pin connectors yet. I constantly check your site but have yet to see them up there.
Old 10-17-2008, 12:56 PM
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I, too, had to buy a non-navi TL. I don't need the navigation, but I would have liked the touch screen and voice commands. The non-navi screen is just hideous.
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I completely agree, unbelievable job! And yes, I'm one of those who absolutely regret not getting a TL w. Navi. But for those who are on the same boat as I am, check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-08...3A1|240%3A1318
Old 04-15-2009, 09:46 PM
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JP good shit!

where u located maybe i roll over there, since i might get my hands on a whole navi set!!!
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i have 2 2005 tl.s one is totaled and its a navi car and the other is not ,can i take the whole int wiring harness and navi and switch instead of disecting the harness
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Originally Posted by b16arace
i have 2 2005 tl.s one is totaled and its a navi car and the other is not ,can i take the whole int wiring harness and navi and switch instead of disecting the harness
you could but it would take forever and you have to gut both cars. you see the navi harness is not separate from the the other stuff. its one huge harness for everything in the car, and the navi wires are intertwined through the whole thing.

the best way to do this is to just cut off the connectors and extend them creating a separate harness for the navi stuff.
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Originally Posted by b16arace
i have 2 2005 tl.s one is totaled and its a navi car and the other is not ,can i take the whole int wiring harness and navi and switch instead of disecting the harness
Where r u located? I might want some parts from your wrecked TL.. let me know!
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JP these r all the harness that i have for my swap check it out





u stated that i wont b needin all of them, so ill def b gettin the etm book, if my boy doesnt have it
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^jeezus are those really all the harnesses that u need to remove to do this conversion!??
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Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
^jeezus are those really all the harnesses that u need to remove to do this conversion!??
no.... but def come in handy incase anythin
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freaking insane but yea got the books!! lets get to it.
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beautiful Lex.... lets get this started!!!
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jptl04, Im about to do the same thing...Thanks alot for this post...It is exactly what I was looking for.
Im gonna take the navi from my friend's 05 tl and install it in mine non-navi 04.
Acura really dissapointed me that they dont have it PREwired like most german cars do.
But I think the only hard part & Something Id love 2 use some help is to find exactly what wires I need to take off friend's 05 navi TL.
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hope mine turn out well when i decide to do it
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did mine... a few months back, and ill tell u this much, it was better swappin it then me goin to the dealer and tradin my ABP in...
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I will sell you The whole DVD NAVI complete unit that include the navi player from the trunk WITH included CD and all wires that u need for non-navi TL with BOTH navi and CD code for $850!
Let me know if anybody need it...100% working and almost like new overall condition.
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Originally Posted by jptl04
Parts List I used for my conversion with automatic transmission.

2ea 90132-SV4-003 SCREW, ET (5X16)
3ea 91540-S0A-003 CLIP (96.9MM)
4ea 91601-SH3-013 GROMMET, SCREW (5MM)
4ea 93893-05008-07 SCREW-WASHER (5X8)
4ea 93901-25280 SCREW, TAP (5X12)
1ea 39710-SEP-A41 DISPLAY ASSY., INFORMATION CENTER
1ea 35890-SEP-A11 SWITCH ASSY., NAVIGATION GUIDE& HAND FREE TELEPHONE
1ea 39051-SEP-A41ZA MODULE ASSY., DISPLAY
1ea 39540-SEP-A41 DVD UNIT, NAVIGATOR
1ea 39541-SEP-A40 BRACKET, NAVIGATOR ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT
1ea 39835-SEP-A41 ANTENNA ASSY., GPS

In addition to this there were 3 wiring harnesses,
32117-SEP-A20 instrument
32140-SEP-A11 floor
32155-SEP-A11 roof

i bought some of the little parts parts new, and the more expensive parts ( navi screen and dvd rom drive) off ebay. you could also get some parts from local wrecking yards as well, you just have to look around, it took me about two months to gather up all the parts.

i got some of the parts new from, here's the link http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/catdisplay.jsp
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Originally Posted by Hotandsweetbmw
I will sell you The whole DVD NAVI complete unit that include the navi player from the trunk WITH included CD and all wires that u need for non-navi TL with BOTH navi and CD code for $850!
Let me know if anybody need it...100% working and almost like new overall condition.
what year is the unit?
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Hello all... just boutht a 04 tl w/ nav and wanted to check out the forum.
I see some great information on this forum.
Does anyone know, if I can use a nav and audio unit from an 07 acura tl?
Just wondering if they are compatible?
I just realized my 04 tl audio does not read all mp3's.
I wanted to just change the audio system?
But, have a friend who had an 07 tl w/ nav that got totalled and asked if I wanted the nav and audio unit from his 07?
Can anyone help?
thanks...
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Originally Posted by allenk911
Hello all... just boutht a 04 tl w/ nav and wanted to check out the forum.
I see some great information on this forum.
Does anyone know, if I can use a nav and audio unit from an 07 acura tl?
Just wondering if they are compatible?
I just realized my 04 tl audio does not read all mp3's.
I wanted to just change the audio system?
But, have a friend who had an 07 tl w/ nav that got totalled and asked if I wanted the nav and audio unit from his 07?
Can anyone help?
thanks...
Allen
read the sticky. it answers that question.
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Whole DVD Navi COMPLETE UNIT w/Navi Player from the trunk & CD w/Both CODES ONLY $650

HEllo all,
I got the whole DVD NAVI complete unit in 100% working AND in perfect condition from 05 TL, that include the navi player from the trunk WITH included CD and with BOTH navi and Audio codes (if you need I can also get the wires if u want to install this navi on non-navi TL for a bit more).
Will send pictures per request.
$650 OR BEST OFFER
hotandsweetbmw@yahoo.com
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awesome job, super clean!
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Great job. I could have never come up with that kind of courage to do this.
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I now want navi in my 05 tl. There is no way im doing it myself tho...
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whats the total bro???
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Are these still selling? how much and does it come with install? if not, know anyone that would install for some $_$


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