Completed!!!! Non-navi to factory-navi conversion!!!
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Completed!!!! Non-navi to factory-navi conversion!!!
ok guys, i've been wanting to do this for a while now, but i got held up doing my audio system uprade. i got all the parts needed for this piece by piece of ebay and acura of del ray. basicly what i did was seperate all the navi wires from the original harnesses. since thats the only thing i was adding. seems like a waste of time to strip down you car and replace all the wire harnesses, since your car already has them, except for the navi ones. so here's what i did
this is the original dashboard wire harness
this is it seperated only for use with navi-rom and display sreen
this is the floor wire harness seperated
this is what was left over! all these you don't need!
this is the roof harness
this is the roof harness seperated, it's a good thing i got the floor harness and the dash harness free from the ebay seller i bought the display screen from. they're expensive new, the roof harness i bought new for $65
i used a tiny flat head screwdriver to extract the pins from the plugs an labled them. this is were the etm manual comes in handy!
this is a shot of the hfl mic connector and the pins from the new roof harness
just plug them in the correct hole and your set! etm manual a must! then run the cable up through the headboard down the front windshiled pillar and connect to the floor harness
this is the f-can high and the f-can low and vehicle speed sensor signal fom the dash harness the connector it goes in is located behind the center air vents
just plug it in theres only one spot for it and only one way it connects, easy!
connectors for the audio unit so navi can controll it, just locate the empty slots and plug in
theres also a couple of other wire to connect, the power, the navi hfl switch on the steering wheel, and the back-up sensor wire, ... here im just testing it before i put it back together.
works fine!!! and no complete gutting of my precious!! just run the floor harness down the passenger side behind the seat and into the trunk were the dvd-rom unit is
here it is put back together! everything works fine voice commands, clock, radio, all work fine. took me about half a day. pretty fun, considering i never ever attempted anything like this before
these were the only two friends that helped me with this. the etm with the wiring and the service manual for dissasembly. don't try this without them imo. anyone can do it if you have a good game plan and do your homework!! i did !!
this is the original dashboard wire harness
this is it seperated only for use with navi-rom and display sreen
this is the floor wire harness seperated
this is what was left over! all these you don't need!
this is the roof harness
this is the roof harness seperated, it's a good thing i got the floor harness and the dash harness free from the ebay seller i bought the display screen from. they're expensive new, the roof harness i bought new for $65
i used a tiny flat head screwdriver to extract the pins from the plugs an labled them. this is were the etm manual comes in handy!
this is a shot of the hfl mic connector and the pins from the new roof harness
just plug them in the correct hole and your set! etm manual a must! then run the cable up through the headboard down the front windshiled pillar and connect to the floor harness
this is the f-can high and the f-can low and vehicle speed sensor signal fom the dash harness the connector it goes in is located behind the center air vents
just plug it in theres only one spot for it and only one way it connects, easy!
connectors for the audio unit so navi can controll it, just locate the empty slots and plug in
theres also a couple of other wire to connect, the power, the navi hfl switch on the steering wheel, and the back-up sensor wire, ... here im just testing it before i put it back together.
works fine!!! and no complete gutting of my precious!! just run the floor harness down the passenger side behind the seat and into the trunk were the dvd-rom unit is
here it is put back together! everything works fine voice commands, clock, radio, all work fine. took me about half a day. pretty fun, considering i never ever attempted anything like this before
these were the only two friends that helped me with this. the etm with the wiring and the service manual for dissasembly. don't try this without them imo. anyone can do it if you have a good game plan and do your homework!! i did !!
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Wow! You are quite the electrician there! Impressive!!
I didn't see any steering wheel controls there for the navi though. I assume you just didn't take pictures of it since voice is working.
I'm glad you got everything working.. and in only half a day. You really did do your research.
Congrats on getting everything done!
I didn't see any steering wheel controls there for the navi though. I assume you just didn't take pictures of it since voice is working.
I'm glad you got everything working.. and in only half a day. You really did do your research.
Congrats on getting everything done!
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Originally Posted by jptl04
this is what was left over! all these you don't need!
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nice job! your idea to not completlyy replace harnesses looks like it shaved most of the work off did you hit any snags or did it all go as smooth as the thread suggest i already have navi but was curios anyway
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jptl04,
Nice job and I commend your efforts, but what did it actually cost you in parts and hours? Are you certain you have ALL the functionality of a native Navi model, like the voice, dash temp sensor, etc?
Nice job and I commend your efforts, but what did it actually cost you in parts and hours? Are you certain you have ALL the functionality of a native Navi model, like the voice, dash temp sensor, etc?
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Originally Posted by datmrman
Wow! You are quite the electrician there! Impressive!!
I didn't see any steering wheel controls there for the navi though. I assume you just didn't take pictures of it since voice is working.
I'm glad you got everything working.. and in only half a day. You really did do your research.
Congrats on getting everything done!
I didn't see any steering wheel controls there for the navi though. I assume you just didn't take pictures of it since voice is working.
I'm glad you got everything working.. and in only half a day. You really did do your research.
Congrats on getting everything done!
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Originally Posted by DMZ
jptl04,
Nice job and I commend your efforts, but what did it actually cost you in parts and hours? Are you certain you have ALL the functionality of a native Navi model, like the voice, dash temp sensor, etc?
Nice job and I commend your efforts, but what did it actually cost you in parts and hours? Are you certain you have ALL the functionality of a native Navi model, like the voice, dash temp sensor, etc?
btw.... all the parts are from a 2005 model my car is a 2004 they're the same!
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nice effort!!! i am sure you had your reasons when you decided not to get a navi.
note to car buyers: remember to buy a navi model from the start if you "might, just might" need it. just look at these pics... hooooooooooly cow!!!
note to car buyers: remember to buy a navi model from the start if you "might, just might" need it. just look at these pics... hooooooooooly cow!!!
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here's a shot of my trunk and the dvd-rom and cover. all i can say is that i really didn't need the navigation but i wanted it after i had already done a bunch of mods. so this was the route i took. plus i thought this would be a good project to take on .
this navigation system is awesome!!
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one of the cleanest non-navi to navi installs i have seen. i haven't seen anyone do the wire harness trick bc of cost, but if you can get a good deal it actually looks easier to do than just buying the plugs and re-running all the wiring.
good stuff, you're a brave soul. i've done my share of crimping, i'm sure your fingers hurt, lol. cheers.
good stuff, you're a brave soul. i've done my share of crimping, i'm sure your fingers hurt, lol. cheers.
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Great job. Now you got me wanting to do that to my non-navi tl.
I just dont have the guts to do it, but we shall see.
Where are you located by the way?
I just dont have the guts to do it, but we shall see.
Where are you located by the way?
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Originally Posted by triton3k
Great job. Now you got me wanting to do that to my non-navi tl.
I just dont have the guts to do it, but we shall see.
Where are you located by the way?
I just dont have the guts to do it, but we shall see.
Where are you located by the way?
btw im located in o.c. california
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I guess you were busy installing this last weekend to come out the SoCal meet. Maybe we'll see you out there in a few months.
The original meet thread
The picture thread
Many people will want to check out your ride.
The original meet thread
The picture thread
Many people will want to check out your ride.
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Originally Posted by jptl04
thanks, at first i was going to pay someone to do it, the more i studied the etm manual the more i told myself "you could do this" yea it was kind of scary. but i just had confidence in my abilities. my prep work and planning paid of in the end. i don't know how many other members did the install themselves i think only 2 or 3 including myself
btw im located in o.c. california
btw im located in o.c. california
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this is just an update ive had the navi installed now for over 2 weeks and i love it, it feels like i have a new car , i have a friend w/ a nav tl and he says there's no difference between the two everything works like its supposed to
p.s. Ron A, Mega Mod. mabey you could "sticky" this post in the tl garage for any future zine members who would want to do this mod.
p.s. Ron A, Mega Mod. mabey you could "sticky" this post in the tl garage for any future zine members who would want to do this mod.
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the navi is 2000 dollars, and u get upgraded tires along with the unit. Freaking amazing that u did it urself, and it doesnt seem like cost is a big deal for u neway, but for those looking to save money.... buy factory navi!
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Originally Posted by AcurasGhost
JE-SUS-CHRIST ... I would never, ever do that. I would buy a new TL before doing that crazy install myself, lol !
Hats off to you man!
Hats off to you man!
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Considering what he spent in parts and time versus the $2000 price difference between Nav and non-Nav
hindsight is always 20/20
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jptl04: would you by any chance have a parts list?
or know where i can get the parts?
thinking about getting parts.. founf this so far
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...2978QQtcZphoto
or know where i can get the parts?
thinking about getting parts.. founf this so far
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...2978QQtcZphoto
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Originally Posted by Danny04TL
jptl04: would you by any chance have a parts list?
or know where i can get the parts?
thinking about getting parts.. founf this so far
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...2978QQtcZphoto
or know where i can get the parts?
thinking about getting parts.. founf this so far
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...2978QQtcZphoto
Parts List I used for my conversion with automatic transmission.
2ea 90132-SV4-003 SCREW, ET (5X16)
3ea 91540-S0A-003 CLIP (96.9MM)
4ea 91601-SH3-013 GROMMET, SCREW (5MM)
4ea 93893-05008-07 SCREW-WASHER (5X8)
4ea 93901-25280 SCREW, TAP (5X12)
1ea 39710-SEP-A41 DISPLAY ASSY., INFORMATION CENTER
1ea 35890-SEP-A11 SWITCH ASSY., NAVIGATION GUIDE& HAND FREE TELEPHONE
1ea 39051-SEP-A41ZA MODULE ASSY., DISPLAY
1ea 39540-SEP-A41 DVD UNIT, NAVIGATOR
1ea 39541-SEP-A40 BRACKET, NAVIGATOR ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT
1ea 39835-SEP-A41 ANTENNA ASSY., GPS
In addition to this there were 3 wiring harnesses,
32117-SEP-A20 instrument
32140-SEP-A11 floor
32155-SEP-A11 roof
i bought some of the little parts parts new, and the more expensive parts ( navi screen and dvd rom drive) off ebay. you could also get some parts from local wrecking yards as well, you just have to look around, it took me about two months to gather up all the parts.
i got some of the parts new from, here's the link http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/catdisplay.jsp
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