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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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2007....mp3?? now im MAD

Damnit... the 2007 plays MP3/WMA....

that really makes me angry... the only thing i absolutely HATE about my 06...

any update on if it has RDS or ID3 ??

grrrrrrr. im upset
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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just get an mp3 adapter....problem solved.

i dont even have any CDs in my changer because i have ipod integration
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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i use DVD-A
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Here's a pisser for your. It has CD text.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Here's a pisser for your. It has CD text.
now that is a good feature, i wonder if us 04-06 ppl can get the new stuff working.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Check out this post from another thread for details on the upgraded head unit.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
now that is a good feature, i wonder if us 04-06 ppl can get the new stuff working.
not without hardware modifications which will cost some $$$$.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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OK, other than CD-TEXT, what's the difference in DVD-A from 04-06 model and MP3 CD in 07 model?? OK, blank CD is about $0.10 and blank DVD is about $0.20. Is this what you are crying about?
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jsong83
just get an mp3 adapter....problem solved.

i dont even have any CDs in my changer because i have ipod integration
Yeah, an iPod pretty much trumps everything for me. Better navigation of the thousands of songs and reasonably acceptable sound when connected directly.

So as far as WMA/MP3 it's a complete "don't care" once your iPod is connected. It just makes CDs obsolete and too cumbersome. It leaves all those 6 slots open for some true high-res audio on DVD-A

I guess CD-text is good but I generally already know the info (It's my CD after all), or don't care about that so much when in the car. XM text on the other hand is useful to later identify a song I don't have.

How could you "hate" something so trivial ? (Hate is usually reserved for the EL42's as they thump in the cold and slip in the wet).
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Yeah, an iPod pretty much trumps everything for me. Better navigation of the thousands of songs and reasonably acceptable sound when connected directly.

So as far as WMA/MP3 it's a complete "don't care" once your iPod is connected. It just makes CDs obsolete and too cumbersome. It leaves all those 6 slots open for some true high-res audio on DVD-A

I guess CD-text is good but I generally already know the info (It's my CD after all), or don't care about that so much when in the car. XM text on the other hand is useful to later identify a song I don't have.

How could you "hate" something so trivial ? (Hate is usually reserved for the EL42's as they thump in the cold and slip in the wet).
Yeah, MP3/WMA compatibility becomes obsolete when you have iPod integration or a hard drive with USB ports in the dash. As for DVD-A, the future doesn't look bright since most people in this country today like their music like their food, quantity/value/cheap over quality. It makes you wonder about Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
Yeah, an iPod pretty much trumps everything for me. Better navigation of the thousands of songs and reasonably acceptable sound when connected directly.

So as far as WMA/MP3 it's a complete "don't care" once your iPod is connected. It just makes CDs obsolete and too cumbersome. It leaves all those 6 slots open for some true high-res audio on DVD-A

I guess CD-text is good but I generally already know the info (It's my CD after all), or don't care about that so much when in the car. XM text on the other hand is useful to later identify a song I don't have.

How could you "hate" something so trivial ? (Hate is usually reserved for the EL42's as they thump in the cold and slip in the wet).
Same here! All MP3s go to iPod, changer is loaded with 5.1 DTS CDs.
One note- iPod doesn't sound that good. I recorded uncompressed WAV files from CD on it, and compared the sound quality iPod vs original CD in the car and on my home system. Both times iPod lost. Not if the MP3 crowd cares about qualit anyway
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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...most people in this country today like their music like their food, quantity/value/cheap over quality. It makes you wonder about Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
Have you seen my diatribes on that very issue ? Just curious. I get all long winded and pompous about it And, most people are completely lost when it comes to HD video. They just get all glazed over when I tell them their HD channels are not always HD. Duh...what do you mean, it says HD....Yeah, but that old Dukes of Hazard you are watching is SD that, if lucky, has been line-doubled to ED by the DCDi in your equipment (if you weren't too cheap to get it) Then they just say (again) "but it's HD, Comcast wouldn't mislead me"

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Same here! All MP3s go to iPod, changer is loaded with 5.1 DTS CDs.
One note- iPod doesn't sound that good. I recorded uncompressed WAV files from CD on it, and compared the sound quality iPod vs original CD in the car and on my home system. Both times iPod lost. Not if the MP3 crowd cares about qualit anyway
Yes indeed. I've compromised (sold out) and use LAME with the extreme preset. That's typically a variable encoding with an average in the 250k area. But I too have noticed that even wavs are "off" on an iPod. I laugh that Apple has the balls to call it HiFi but that's Apple for you. They engineer some really great stuff but their corporate attitude is all messed up. Even so, I really like my iPod at the gym and on my bike. Car is mainly podcasts.

It just bums me out when people are fooled or hoodwinked into thinking stuff is high quality when it's not.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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I have had MP3 capability with CD-Rs on my Pioneer deck on my old BMW and it made me so happy I never missed the old 6-disc changer. I also had a 2006 MB E-class that can read certain DVDs and I was experimenting maybe a way to get it to read MP3s off of a DVD-R but my DVD-R burner on my computer was malfunctioning. Then I totalled the poor car 3 months ago, so I never got around to it.. Now I'm in my '06 TL.

When I 1st heard the Acura TL had DVD-A I thought.....AWESOME!!! That means I could hold 4.7 gigs worth of MP3s on 1 disc!!!! How many damn files is that? Then I learned from this forum 2 months before I bought the TL that it DOESN'T in fact read MP3s. I was pretty disappointed.

So if the new deck has MP3 capabilty does that mean it can read them off DVD-Rs or only CD-Rs? There's a big difference there. It's only something worth talking about if it can do this because even the Chevy Aveo can read MP3s off a CD-R.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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I'm more irritated that the 06 doesn't have an aux jack somewhere, so I have to use a stupid tape adapter. But heck, my ipod+tape adapter works and sounds good, and the KUDA mount is terrific, so I don't have that much to complain about really. In the end, I want to spend my energy enjoying my 06 and not worrying too much about what the 07 has that the 06 doesn't. Maybe I missed out on a few new features, but I've been enjoying my TL for almost a year now while the 07 buyers are just now getting their first taste.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I have had MP3 capability with CD-Rs on my Pioneer deck on my old BMW and it made me so happy I never missed the old 6-disc changer. I also had a 2006 MB E-class that can read certain DVDs and I was experimenting maybe a way to get it to read MP3s off of a DVD-R but my DVD-R burner on my computer was malfunctioning. Then I totalled the poor car 3 months ago, so I never got around to it.. Now I'm in my '06 TL.

When I 1st heard the Acura TL had DVD-A I thought.....AWESOME!!! That means I could hold 4.7 gigs worth of MP3s on 1 disc!!!! How many damn files is that? Then I learned from this forum 2 months before I bought the TL that it DOESN'T in fact read MP3s. I was pretty disappointed.

So if the new deck has MP3 capabilty does that mean it can read them off DVD-Rs or only CD-Rs? There's a big difference there. It's only something worth talking about if it can do this because even the Chevy Aveo can read MP3s off a CD-R.
That's a good question! If it can read MP3's from a DVD-R, I'll be the first to say that's extremely cool!
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Yeah, MP3/WMA compatibility becomes obsolete when you have iPod integration or a hard drive with USB ports in the dash. As for DVD-A, the future doesn't look bright since most people in this country today like their music like their food, quantity/value/cheap over quality. It makes you wonder about Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

True, but as someone noted, having MP3/WMA compatibility allows, at least that's what I think, tag info from the Ipod to be displayed on the TL's stereo system which is a plus.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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True, but as someone noted, having MP3/WMA compatibility allows, at least that's what I think, tag info from the Ipod to be displayed on the TL's stereo system which is a plus.
No Ipod tags will be displayed... It's just an AUX port that uses a 3.5mm "headphone plug", not data traverses that plug.

You MAY be able to read ID3 tags, or at least filenames from burned mp3 CD's if the CD can read CD text.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Apple has something like 80% of the MP3 player market? And of those millons of customers, how many have committed to the copy protected AAC format by buying albums on iTunes? A ton I'm sure. I'm one of then. Not that I like corporate control, but the product works terrific and it just kinda sucked me in. So, my point is, what good does any of this WMA/MP3 playback capability do for the great majority of us? None! No matter what the audio system can decode, most of us are still going to be plugging in an external iPod somehow. An aux jack would certainly help, but none of the rest of this will matter one bit.

No wonder Acura has taken their sweet time adding MP3/WMA. What they really should focus on is a better iPod interface. But I'm not sure what Apple is giving these companies access to.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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OK, other than CD-TEXT, what's the difference in DVD-A from 04-06 model and MP3 CD in 07 model?? OK, blank CD is about $0.10 and blank DVD is about $0.20. Is this what you are crying about?
I don't see that he ever answered this, so I'll jump in.

I think what he's complaining about is that you can put hundreds of MP3's on a CD, as long as the head unit will read them, but since the '06's DVD-A player won't read MP3's, it's a moot point.

He'd like to be able to burn zillions of MP3's on a DVD and play them, but it doesn't work!
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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I wonder if I burn the head unit on my 06 TL with a strong EM shock and take the car in for repairs... will they replace it with an 07 head unit?
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stanekfelix
I wonder if I burn the head unit on my 06 TL with a strong EM shock and take the car in for repairs... will they replace it with an 07 head unit?
Ya right! There's plenty of pre-07 spare parts sittin around for a couple decades worth. Anything is worth a shot though.Try it and if it works let me know so I can do the same!
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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No Ipod tags will be displayed... It's just an AUX port that uses a 3.5mm "headphone plug", not data traverses that plug.

You MAY be able to read ID3 tags, or at least filenames from burned mp3 CD's if the CD can read CD text.
I see. That sucks.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
I don't see that he ever answered this, so I'll jump in.

I think what he's complaining about is that you can put hundreds of MP3's on a CD, as long as the head unit will read them, but since the '06's DVD-A player won't read MP3's, it's a moot point.

He'd like to be able to burn zillions of MP3's on a DVD and play them, but it doesn't work!
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Just to confirm, you're saying you cannot burn MP3's on a DVD-R and play them on the 07s? If not, that's horrible! Maybe there's a certain type of DVD-R's that will work
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TriniBwoy
Just to confirm, you're saying you cannot burn MP3's on a DVD-R and play them on the 07s? If not, that's horrible! Maybe there's a certain type of DVD-R's that will work
You know what could be more horrible ? The '07 MDX plays MP3s on both CD and DVD media. I don't understand how the MDX could get this capability, while the TL doesn't.

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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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oo guess what,,, i actually have the 4.55 disc with me,, itz the same one on the RDX =) the sales just gave it to me "i wished it was the new TL disc"
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
You know what could be more horrible ? The '07 MDX plays MP3s on both CD and DVD media. I don't understand how the MDX could get this capability, while the TL doesn't.
Well the unit probably can't fit in a 06 TL anyway.

Now I'm curious to get a DVD-A and hear what it sounds like since swapping w/ the 07 unit appears to be pointless (although I don't like the appearance of the non-navi area on the 07's compared to the 04's-06's). Speaking of DVD-A, where on earth do you purchase these? I don't have a DVD Burner just yet.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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a dvd-a is just a dvd media you burn with audio on it.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TriniBwoy
Well the unit probably can't fit in a 06 TL anyway.

Now I'm curious to get a DVD-A and hear what it sounds like since swapping w/ the 07 unit appears to be pointless (although I don't like the appearance of the non-navi area on the 07's compared to the 04's-06's). Speaking of DVD-A, where on earth do you purchase these? I don't have a DVD Burner just yet.
The last time I checked, Best Buy had a small DVD-A section (I mean small), but your best option would probably be to order online. JandR.com has close to 400 DVD-A titles.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Is there a firmware upgrade we can do to allow our 06 TL to play Mp3s....
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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not without hardware modifications which will cost some $$$$.
Is that fact or speculation? Some of us would really like to know and we've heard nothing definitive.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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I just bought my TL and I was hoping that I could somehow get a decent price for an '07 for cool features like real time traffic reports, cool mirror turn signals and finally MP3 capable receiver.

Unfortunately, but not disappointed I purchased an '06. I'm hopeful but doubtful that such a firmware upgrade will ever be made to allow for MP3 playback. I know everyone states, iPod connection will work good, but since burning a CD with what you want is so easy and cheap it just works better for me. Besides I can't afford the $200+ cable purchase at the moment.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TriniBwoy
Well the unit probably can't fit in a 06 TL anyway.

Now I'm curious to get a DVD-A and hear what it sounds like since swapping w/ the 07 unit appears to be pointless (although I don't like the appearance of the non-navi area on the 07's compared to the 04's-06's). Speaking of DVD-A, where on earth do you purchase these? I don't have a DVD Burner just yet.
Correction: I do like the appearance of the non-navi area on the 07 TLs better than the 04-06 non-navi TLs.

dampfnudel, I'll give Best Buy a shot first and try "JandR.com" next. Thanks.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by zobie
Is there a firmware upgrade we can do to allow our 06 TL to play Mp3s....
I believe your audio system lacks a Digital signal processor (DSP) which can decode the MP3/WMA files. In other words, you would need either a hardware upgrade or as Acura would like you to do, upgrade to the '07.
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