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Comptech Is Working On A Supercharger That Will Add Over 40 Hp To The Tl.

Will You Buy One.

Are There Any Other Companies Making Superchargers For The Tl.

And Remember This.....g 35 Skyline With Rear Wheel Drive Is Coming In 2006 With Over 300hp....

TLover

No. This TL is a long-term car for me. A supercharger would definitely shorten its lifespan.

Repecat

Naw, I might like a bit more torque and further down the RPM band, but 270 BHP is just fine for me.

fasttl

With out a doubt! bring it on!!!!!

matelot

no. got enugh ponies

fasttl

What?????? 310 not enough? HA HAAAAAAAA see ya in some red light!!!! remember supercharging contrary to turbocharging fattens the low end considerably. It would be a monster!!!!

rs808

I really want the supercharger but I'm not sure I can justify spending $5000 (with installation) on 40hp.

I owned a Toyota 4-Runner prior to the TL with the TRD racing package (Supercharger, Headers and Exhaust). This dealer installed package gained 100hp and cost less than $4000. If anyone has a Toyota, I recommend checking out TRD's website.

KJSmitty

Nope,

Not enough bang for my buck...
I'm sure the price will be between $4K-$6K. One can get 40 hp for 10% of that w/NOS

The next question would be if thats "net" HP gain?? I would sure hope so.. If not, you would be lucky to see 10-20 of the advertised 40... "Remember", superchargers take/use hp to make hp.... Turbo's do not.

Now, give me a 40-50% "gross" hp gain over stock and I would ponder the idea.. But you would probably never see that with the TL engine given "add-ons".

PoochaKannInc

Yes that is the net hp rating (based on the 2nd gen TL/CL gains). A CL 6spd makes about 305 whp on the stock pulley. I think about 300-330 whp on my TL would be perfect. Not too much not too little.

I would like to get it, but definitely not this year.

RhythmAddict

If there were some chance in hell you could stick that kind of power to the ground without spending a lot more than the initial ~5k, than no, I still would not because warranty would go bye-bye.

04AcuraTL

nope, this car has enough power for a sedan no need for more...for what u would spend 40hp isnt much, plus my TL is a B*tchmatic...hehe

Lokius

No supercharger for me....

I'm going the AEM intake, comptech exhaust, grounding kit route, and It will cost me around $1300 tops, and I'm looking at around 20+ hp to the wheels... well worth it to me

Kandyman

Guys, remember that this is a FWD car...... You'll probably need suspension mods to effectively deliver that added hp and torque to to the road.

crazymjb

I heard on this forum that using forced induction on a car with this high compression ration could cause knocking even with high octane fuels. Also would get a better deal with NOS. I know its a completly diff power additive but I dont think Id drop 5 on a super or turbo charger. The FWD would also be a problem. Now if they made an ECU upgrade...

k6biv

Hello:

From what Comptech told me there will be over 300WHP with the S/C installed. From what I have been told my 04TL AT has about 225WHP now. If this is true the S/C would add about 75WHP..

Tim

00accordtyper

I will be definitely getting the supercharger for the TL. I have the comptech on my accord (along with nitrous) and if I had to do it over I would buy it again. It's a great gain for the power. It seems like a lot but what you get out of it pays for it. You can spend $2500 for a exhaust, intake and a reliable nitrous setup which you will be refilling all the time at about 40 bucks a bottle and trust me it don't last long. On top of that nitrous is a killer on the motor in terms of heat production and we won't even mention great Honda auto trannys. All this or you spent 4000 on something that is reliable, street legal, always on tap and much more safe for your car. Also with you guys with the warranty issues check your Acura dealers most of them approve of comptech products. I never had a problem with my accord with the supercharger and my Honda dealer with the tranny. There is one dealer around here that will even install comptech products on your car and roll them into your payments with the full warranty.

Lokius

I have an automatic and that 300whp is probably for the 6MT version k6, I would like to believe that the supercharger will give you 75 whp, but I just cant.

r10apple

Bro, sorry but those mods are not going to give you 20whp...

Acura_Kid

I can only assume that Comptech did not do their market research. With all of these posts saying no to spending $5k for 40-70hp, why would Comptech spend time and money trying to build something that nobody wants?

With simple off-the-shelf NoS kits and parts available it would make much more sense if Comptech would R&D a off-the-shelf kit and tweak it for the TL. The s/c does give the low end a big boost, but in this fwd car it may be pointless. A single wet NoS "fogger" nozzle is the only nozzle needed. With a fogger one could get almost +50% more top end hp !!

Acura_Kid

7.4% increase in HP at the motor minus driveline losses? I'd like to see the dyno results.

I'll give you +6 HP and +10ft-lb torq at the motor for those mods.


For $1300 I could add a +50% HP NoS kit.

Yours: $65/HP
NoS: $8.6/HP

JetJock

Are you guys crazy? $5000+/- for 60 hp? Besides the cost, the car isn't designed to handle that much extra power. Get a M3 if you want more power...the car is built to handle that kind of power. Acura is a nice car, but it's not a race car no matter what you do to the engine...the car just isn't designed to handle that much extra power.

mickey3c

Comptech advertises 40-60 WHP on their current supercharger offering. I doubt if you'll see a 75WHP increase. And as mentioned before, I would think you would limit the life of many other components such as the transmission. If you got the money to blow that is fine.

I would not mod a daily driver (or any car) to the point where it might run fine for a while and then require me to constantly fiddle or adjust something at a cost of time and money.

Lokius

Well the dyno for the AEM intake is saying 20 WHP, and teh comptech exhaust gives 7 WHP. Thats over 27WHP right there, NoS isnt my thing and these mods will make the car sound a bit better, and I can take them off..

r10apple

The point of Comptech is that it is quality to the point where you really won't be "fiddling" with anything. Install and go. 100k miles would require servicing of the s/c unit, but so would most of your car. There are many people with 2nd gens with 30k, 40k miles or more and no issues with the unit at all. The 6speed likely will never have an issue with the transmission and this mod, the auto, well, I know my local dealer honors the factory warranty even with Comptech products installed.

Jetjock: The Acura won't--can't--compete with an M3 on any level, but a $35k TL with a $5k s/c kit will be far more reliable than a stock M3 for a longer period of time and have reasonable performance (on top of still saving $20k). Though it is a completely different driving experience and certainly, an awd or rwd platform is better, I find a 275whp Acura to be a fun experience...

Acura_Kid: Most of us want the instant, regular benefit of power without the hassle of NOS and without the side-affects of it either. For many of us the cost offsets increased, regular reliability and performance.

AcidHorse

You think you have torque steer now...

mickey3c

Point I was making is that adding a SC can change the longevity of the car. I do not want to have to use the warranty. There have been plenty of times where there may not be anything to fix and they find that the car is fine, even if you think otherwise. I also made the comment about a daily driver and any added maintenance is up to the person..


I think it is naive of someone to think that adding another 60WHP as well as some other mods will not impact the car whatsoever.

Acura has only added 10hp and 6 ft pound of torque in several years. Do you think they are holding back? Sure they have to warranty the car with mods since they would lose some sales. It is a small percentage of owners that actually do a lot more than an intake and exhaust (mods that impact engine output). Not saying your car is doomed if you have supercharger in it.. It all depends on how you drive it. And in a way we are providing real life/world testing as consumers for them. They should stand by the product.

boosteddsm

FWIW, I would never drop $5k on a SC for this thing. If I wanna haul ass I'll pull out my other car

No chance the intake adds 20whp, don't believe it!

cM3go

who cares about HP, the car has enough... I want low end torque

aw1

SC for $4-5k? No way I will pull the trigger on that for 40-60 hp gain. besides, I think the TL has more than enough HP. like other have said, i would perfer some additional low end muscle. going to spend the dough on suspension, wheels and sway bar instead.

MasterShake

iTrader: (1)

off topic, but...

how about $4-5k for AWD or RWD?

I'd put $5k just for RWD. Then maybe some of the s/c hesitation will fall away.

PoochaKannInc

In my view the $4-5K is relatively cheap for a product that has been tested and will be installed with minimal modifications & "babying" necessary. Based on 2nd gen CL/TL setups, this is not a car that is going to stall at lights, to sputter and die if you arent reckless with the throttle, etc. etc. it will perform as before but with more low end torque.

It is not just the power levels, it is also the user-friendliness of the kit. How many people want to deal with filling up the NOS, making sure the kit is working correctly, that the bottle warmer works, etc. etc. Or with a custom turbo, tweaking boost levels, etc. etc.

J RIDE 81

Wow, 4-5k that's a lot of money that I don't need to be spending additionally on this car. That's a small downpayment on a house. If I was rich I'd do it.

MasterShake

iTrader: (1)

DOWNPAYMENT ON A HOUSE????
You'll have to excuse my shouting, but I live in Nor Cal where average house prices are ~$750,000 even at 1% down (is that even possible in this market?) that's $7.5k.

$4-5k is definately worth 40-60 hp + added torque if the car were RWD. But alas, our TL's are FWD, and I don't have any delusions of my beautiful baby being a sports car.

Jinen

I just don't see the value behind the SC...

am i going to go to the track and race people?
-No

on my day to day driving, do i really need all that horsepower?
-No

ya i can destroy a lot of cars while racing them if i had the SC but am i insecure?
-No

SC not worth it for me...

I'd rather do other mods that have a decent price and the satisfaction
1) Navi to DVD Conversion
2) Indiglow door sills
3) Tires and rims

PPLAPW

I wouldn't unless it went for sale for $1000...(yeah right)

PoochaKannInc

Sounds like 5K would be a downpayment on a very small house, or perhaps a garage?

I guess we can agree to disagree here. I think it is worth it because I do want more power, and I DO think that this FWD chassis can handle it just fine.

ericajackhannahjamie?

6MT + Comptech Exhaust + AEM CAI + S/C = GARAGE it / none daily driver

(6MT + Comptech Exhaust + AEM CAI + S/C) + (stock daily driver Honda Civic DX 5MT) =

jchcmax

Well, this supercharger idea is tempting. I don't think it's uncommon to see an easy 40-50(at least) increase in horsepower. No doubt it's gonna be expensive to do it. I've had experience with my Jackson Racing supercharged Integra and it's all about tuning. My Integra is still running strong with at least 50k miles on the supercharger. Proper install and tuning with fuel/air/boost ratios should be carefully be monitered for safe function and reliability. You gotta remember that you can't just slap on a supercharger and that's it. It's highly recommended to upgrade your fuel pump, clutch, colder spark plugs, and maybe ignition system. What about a free flow exhaust to help with all that air that's coming out? Oh yeah, the supercharger belt may need relacement annually. For the TL, if you have the money and responsibility to maintain..it may a worth the upgrade. But cost is a high factor for me.

Seattle Cl-S

The blower is not for everyone. I used to feel the same as many of you regarding the supercharger. I had intake, headers, and crank pulley and thought the car was about as quick as necessary. I had the car set up that way for about 3 years before getting bored with the car. I debated buying a different car with more stock power for a while but decided that since my CL was already paided for I would just drop the comptech S/C into it. I got a good deal on a used one which helped my decision significantly. Comptech states about 40whp gains for an auto CLS with the blower. Many think this is too little. People focus far too much on peak gains. "Only 40 whp is too little for the money" is a common statement. By looking at a dyno you have to notice the incredible bump in low-end grunt. It makes the car far more responsive in any gear and at any speed. Even if you're in high traffic areas, it feels much smoother as the power delivery is much more consistent. I swear the car is soooo much more fun to drive. I have no more torque steer than I did b/f the blower. IMO, the blower is worth every penny I spent, albeit I got it for $3k installed.

1FastVtec

Not built to handle that kind of power?! Where have you been? Honda's Vtec engine is built to be DRIVEN HARD! Whether its an Integra Type-R or the TL Sedan, their all designed to be driven like you stole it. I have a 94' Accord with the F22B1 SOHC Vtec motor with 160K on the clock and I still do 125-130mph when I can. Never had a single problem with it. I'm not knockin' you, just need to loosen up and really see what your car can do. Push it to its limits & learn them so you can drive it to its limits when the right time calls for it.