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Old 01-28-2010, 10:04 AM
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Whos needs side mirrors when you can have these!!

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wow...throws me off. Looks like the TL went through a tight alley.
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That's weird looking.

The second picture reminds me of a dog that had its ears lopped off.
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hmmm, I like the idea but not the look
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who cares less drag is better.
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The TL does looked restarted like this, but the concept of Cameras is neat.
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omg that look so ugly.. nahh feeling the idea
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Likely no one likes it b/c we've all seen our cars with sideview mirrors.

Think of it this way. Say you had seen cars like this since you started driving, and then someone added sideview mirrors. You would think it was the ugliest/stupidest thing ever.

I'm saying, only reason we find it ugly, is b/c we're not used to it.
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who cares less drag is better.
Yes, why keep TL's from looking retarded when there's a 0.01% improvement to gain in the 1/4 mile?!
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that TL looks DEAF, yo!
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Very stream line looking. I wonder if you have to use the Navi as the monitor. I don't know about you, but I'd find myself looking at the cameras thinking I'm checking my mirrors......
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The cameras would have to have a heads-up display for this to be effective, IMHO.

But, from the looks of it, these would eliminate blind spots!
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Originally Posted by Goosew
Likely no one likes it b/c we've all seen our cars with sideview mirrors.

Think of it this way. Say you had seen cars like this since you started driving, and then someone added sideview mirrors. You would think it was the ugliest/stupidest thing ever.

I'm saying, only reason we find it ugly, is b/c we're not used to it.
Agree 100%

"Something different?? Let's hate on it for no good reason" is will always be the general consensus. There is absolutely nothing off or ugly-looking about them. And I'm not one of those people who believes that everything from carbon fiber windshield wipers to L.E.D. license plate bolts are the new hot shyt. Color-matched, those would be on point. For the best part of a year, I've been on the mythical trail of the 'heard of, but never seen" power-folding side mirrors supposedly sold only in the Chinese market. If the trail turns cold (it hasn't even gotten warm yet), i'd cop these.

Trust me, wait a year to two years tops after Mercedes or BMW comes out with them and watch everyone's tune change.
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This idea been around for quite some time (well over 10 years). Looks much better on convertibles. It would take some time to get used to the adjustment (as the driver) but it makes sense with respect to blind spots, among other things.
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This concept is not logical to me. If i want to see what's on the left side of me, i want to look left, not up at an HUD or down on the dash.
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^ - Do you not use your mirrors now?
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Maybe it's the photographer's skills or possibly spacers, but the TL seems to have a wider stance. Almost loox like RWD ass-kicking sleeper.


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It's a concept, some will like it some will not. It's the beauty of having an opinion.






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Originally Posted by Trew
This concept is not logical to me. If i want to see what's on the left side of me, i want to look left, not up at an HUD or down on the dash.
Not illogical. Just a break from the norm. Like subinf said, it would definitely take getting used to. If ya took a brand new driver and put him behind the wheel of a car with these for a year, then dropped into our cars, they'd have the same rationale as you.
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Cadillac had these in 99 on its evoq concept. I thought they were cool. Also would have thought that someone would have picked up on them. So far I haven't seen anything else since except for this. I really want to drive a car with the cameras to see how weird it feels
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Mirror delete, Whiper deletes, plain reckless..........SO is driving with Streched Tires, Super Dropped cars, and some of the flimsy rims we tend to put on the cars for the simple purpose of looks.
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When did the TL become the new civic?
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Originally Posted by ciscopath
Agree 100%

"Something different?? Let's hate on it for no good reason" is will always be the general consensus. There is absolutely nothing off or ugly-looking about them. And I'm not one of those people who believes that everything from carbon fiber windshield wipers to L.E.D. license plate bolts are the new hot shyt. Color-matched, those would be on point. For the best part of a year, I've been on the mythical trail of the 'heard of, but never seen" power-folding side mirrors supposedly sold only in the Chinese market. If the trail turns cold (it hasn't even gotten warm yet), i'd cop these.

Trust me, wait a year to two years tops after Mercedes or BMW comes out with them and watch everyone's tune change.
Concept cars at auto shows have these 'camera mirrors' all the time. It's nothing new, some vehicles look good without mirrors and some just look weird, some even look weird WITH mirrors (some lambos with their extra long mirrors). It's an aesthetic thing. I happen to think our vehicles look better with the mirrors. Sortof like a plane with its wings vs without its wings.
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Originally Posted by t3ch
Yes, why keep TL's from looking retarded when there's a 0.01% improvement to gain in the 1/4 mile?!
It isn't about quarter mile noob, these are not drag cars. It is simply better for gas mileage. Less wind resistance = better performance especially at higher speeds. This car is so aerodynamic that having a window cracked makes a difference. It looks good.

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Originally Posted by Trew
This concept is not logical to me. If i want to see what's on the left side of me, i want to look left, not up at an HUD or down on the dash.
It's not about logic.

It's about safety.

These cameras are supposed to remove the blindspot.

Therefore, if you remember your driving classes, before you're changing lanes, you're supposed to look over ur shoulder to make sure there's no one in your blindspot.

That time that you've taken your eyes off the road is shown to be one of the most dangerous times for a driver (whether you do it or not is a difft. argument).

Having HUD camera angles removes the need to physcially check your blindspot and take your eyes off the road.

Thereby making driving safer for EVERYONE!.

(same reason they added a 3rd brake light to cars, b/c they were more at eye-level than the classic brake lights)

LoL. although with your lowered cars, who know's how true that is!.


So therefore, it actually IS logical

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Id rather get the 07-08 mirrors.
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Originally Posted by Goosew
It's not about logic.

It's about safety.

These cameras are supposed to remove the blindspot.

Therefore, if you remember your driving classes, before you're changing lanes, you're supposed to look over ur shoulder to make sure there's no one in your blindspot.

That time that you've taken your eyes off the road is shown to be one of the most dangerous times for a driver (whether you do it or not is a difft. argument).

Having HUD camera angles removes the need to physcially check your blindspot and take your eyes off the road.

Thereby making driving safer for EVERYONE!.

(same reason they added a 3rd brake light to cars, b/c they were more at eye-level than the classic brake lights)

LoL. although with your lowered cars, who know's how true that is!.


So therefore, it actually IS logical
So you just look down at the console instead
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Originally Posted by subinf
So you just look down at the console instead
Look at the amt. of travel of your head/eyes.... Looking at the console SIGNIFICANTLY decreases the amt. of time your eyes are off the road... so yes, this is a possibility..

Keep in mind, that NOTHING will be perfect, but all these measures are put to minimize the issues which already exist.
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Originally Posted by Goosew
Look at the amt. of travel of your head/eyes.... Looking at the console SIGNIFICANTLY decreases the amt. of time your eyes are off the road... so yes, this is a possibility..

Keep in mind, that NOTHING will be perfect, but all these measures are put to minimize the issues which already exist.
I wasn't really being serious.
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I guess if you have the cameras, then you don't have the mirror blinkers......
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Slick, but boy-that would take a lot of getting-used to!
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Originally Posted by subinf
I wasn't really being serious
Ah. I've learned not to take anything for granted on this forum..

(didn't see any 'red' text)

Anywho....
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I'm way too lazy to change font color. I don't blame you though. Tough to get a read on posts.
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I'm sure there's a good reason why even the top luxury vehicles arent really using these yet. Like possible reliability/liability issues...more point of failures, who knows.
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
I guess if you have the cameras, then you don't have the mirror blinkers......

If you look closely, i think it has a diffuser and a bit of amber in there for the blinker.

And what if we had the combination of mirrors and cameras.. .this will eliminate all possible blind spot.. or point cameras down strictly for parking... this way people don't curb those expensive rims.
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Did you guys ever consider that this might not be a camera, but rather, a sensor?
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hmmm interesting concept but i like more is the circle taillights in those pics
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Originally Posted by DeathMetal
Did you guys ever consider that this might not be a camera, but rather, a sensor?
if It were a sensor meant to warn the driver (audibly i guess) whenever there was an object in it's immediate or on-coming side, then it'd be going off 24/7. If it was a sensor that did something other than warn of possible side dangers, then the TL would be a death trap due to no side mirrors.


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