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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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when you fill up?

Do you wait till the first click and then stop the gas? or do you try and add more gas after it stops the 1st time?I usually just stop after it stops the 1st time. I heard that if you add more after it stops the gas filles the tubbing that goes to the tank and probably gives you an inaccurate mpg reading...
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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I was able to add almost 2 gallons after the first click off. Don't know if this is good or bad and would not do it during the summer unless I was on a road trip.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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I work at a gas station, and the reason why they say you should stop at the first click is for precaution. In hotter temperatures your fuel can expand in your tank, and if it's too full.. basically your tank can burst and if you're unlucky burst into flames. So... just stop at the first click so you give your gas "some space"
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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I just keep filling until it starts running out and down the side of my car, then at least i know i've got a full tank
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Recommend above poster also wear nylon jacket/pants, walk around, get in and out of car and use cell phone while fueling

SFF you probably recognize that combo as someone who ends up on CNN from a
gas station security camera- Spontanious Combustion you say, hmm interesting
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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I went to an information session that my acura dealer offers all new car purchasers and they said once you get the first click, stop pumping in gas.

Because there's pressure in the gas tank and if u keep putting in more gas, you are only increasing the pressure and could cause unexpected results such as a fuel light error or more dangerous as noted above potential explosion.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cacicgt7
I just keep filling until it starts running out and down the side of my car, then at least i know i've got a full tank
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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i just fill up to the nearest $.25 increment after the first click
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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i usually pump until i get the third click. i also pull the nozzle out some, so the fumes dont cause the nozzle to click too soon
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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After the first click I give it a little extra... I have pumped gas on the side of my car when trying to add that little extra.

I'm paying for the gas this time and gunna pay for it next time; so there is no real need to top it off. But if the G/F is paying I'll go ahead and top it off.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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I keep on filling after the click, if, and only if I am planning on driving to burn off some of the gas. If i am on the way home, gas station only 2 miles from my house, I stop after the 2nd click.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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after the first click, i pump till i get to the next rounded up dollar e.g. if first click is at 12.50 i will pump till i get to 13. after reading these posts, i think i will stop doing that and stop at the first click.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracker
I'm paying for the gas this time and gunna pay for it next time; so there is no real need to top it off. But if the G/F is paying I'll go ahead and top it off.
That's funny!

I usually round up to the next dollar or .50, whichever is closer. I always pay with plastic, so I like it better for records sake.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Many hoses have a return line... they're usually the ones with the compressable turtle neck thingee over the hose.

It sucks up any gas that overflows and puts it back in the station's tank.

So, if you keep going with one of those, you're paying for some gas that you're not going home with.

Food for thought.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
That's funny!

I usually round up to the next dollar or .50, whichever is closer. I always pay with plastic, so I like it better for records sake.
same here
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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I never fill up :p
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Recommend above poster also wear nylon jacket/pants, walk around, get in and out of car and use cell phone while fueling

SFF you probably recognize that combo as someone who ends up on CNN from a
gas station security camera- Spontanious Combustion you say, hmm interesting

I do that occasionally, but i usually light up a cuban too and ash around my car
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Xpditor
Many hoses have a return line... they're usually the ones with the compressable turtle neck thingee over the hose.

It sucks up any gas that overflows and puts it back in the station's tank.

So, if you keep going with one of those, you're paying for some gas that you're not going home with.

Food for thought.
good to know
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Recommend above poster also wear nylon jacket/pants, walk around, get in and out of car and use cell phone while fueling


hahahaha
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Are there any mechanical problems that can result from overfilling on gas? I remember a friend of mine who had a 2000 Accord, his 'check engine' light came on. The mechanic said that it could've been because of constantly overfilling the tank.

I was wondering if there was any truth to this?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cacicgt7
I do that occasionally, but i usually light up a cuban too and ash around my car



please dont post if you do not have anything to add
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Its actually the spark from static discharge or electrical impulse, like cell phone ringing, that sets off fuel vapors, not the already burning Cubano.

If you manage to overfill the tank so much that it would be pulled by the VAPOR line back to the stations tank- you have defied science. Fuel will run down the side of the car before that happens. That vent line only goes 20 feet up to safely discharge the fumes to the atmosphere, so long Ozone layer- we hardly knew ya

And Everyone please remember - after fueling MINIMUM 3 clicks on the gas cap or the CEL light will come on
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alexkcha
Are there any mechanical problems that can result from overfilling on gas? I remember a friend of mine who had a 2000 Accord, his 'check engine' light came on. The mechanic said that it could've been because of constantly overfilling the tank.

I was wondering if there was any truth to this?
I understand there's a sensor on the outside of the fuel line leading to the tank. If gas is detected, its interpreted as a rolled car and all electrics are turned off (at least for cars >2005).

That might explain why the "check engine" light illuminated when the 2000 Accord was overfilled.

For newer cars, I understand that the car's disabled and may have to be towed and be reset by the dealer. Allowing time for the gas to dry is not enough.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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OK, now that we have established that it's not a good idea to over fill the tank... what is overfilling the tank? Owners manual says something like 17.7 gallon tank. Is that after the first click off or when you can see gas in the filler neck?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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First click is the fill point.. While its true that slowing down the fuel flow as it nears full will allow slightly more gas in before the click, how far are you trying to go between fillups?
Driving somewhere thats more than 300-350 miles to the next station?
- oh I need that extra 14 miles!

17.7 is the total capacity with expanded gas from temperature
You would be amazed at the power of a combustible material under pressure!

Top off ONLY if immediatly getting on the freeway for an extended trip.
Even parking in the sun for an hour can raise the fuel temp to the required point for disaster

WARNING DANGER
If you can see gas in the filler neck, its too full.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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I don't usually care so I stop when it clicks the first time.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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3 clicks for me. I don't remove the nozzle until after the third click. Fuel never gushed out on me using this method, then again i only get about an extra 30-50 cent into the tank.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by alexkcha
Are there any mechanical problems that can result from overfilling on gas? I remember a friend of mine who had a 2000 Accord, his 'check engine' light came on. The mechanic said that it could've been because of constantly overfilling the tank.

I was wondering if there was any truth to this?
There is a carbon canister in the tank at the top for vapors, and if it gets soaked with fuel it could prevent it from operating correctly.

Here's some info on fuel tank capacity I post every so often.

This info is excerpted from a very long thread I started about fuel tank capacities, etc. and is based on actual and precise testing.

a. When the low fuel warning light comes on, if you are getting 25 mpg you can go 94 miles, but if you are only getting 20 mpg, you can only go 74 miles. Of course, other miles per gallon figures will result in different results. This means you have approximately 3.7 gallons remaining.

b. When “miles to empty” (2004TL) or “range” (2005TL) reads zero, that is time to fill up, but you can still go 57 miles at 25mpg, but only 45 miles at 20mpg. This means you have approximately 2.3 gallons remaining.

c. When filling the tank, if you stop at the first shutoff, you will have about 17 gallons in the tank.

d. The tank will actually hold about 19 gallons, but it is not recommended to fill the tank to capacity, so stop at the first shutoff.

If you want to read the whole thread, click here. and if that's not enough information for you, here's another thread you can read.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron A
There is a carbon canister in the tank at the top for vapors, and if it gets soaked with fuel it could prevent it from operating correctly.

Here's some info on fuel tank capacity I post every so often.

This info is excerpted from a very long thread I started about fuel tank capacities, etc. and is based on actual and precise testing.

a. When the low fuel warning light comes on, if you are getting 25 mpg you can go 94 miles, but if you are only getting 20 mpg, you can only go 74 miles. Of course, other miles per gallon figures will result in different results. This means you have approximately 3.7 gallons remaining.

b. When “miles to empty” (2004TL) or “range” (2005TL) reads zero, that is time to fill up, but you can still go 57 miles at 25mpg, but only 45 miles at 20mpg. This means you have approximately 2.3 gallons remaining.

c. When filling the tank, if you stop at the first shutoff, you will have about 17 gallons in the tank.

d. The tank will actually hold about 19 gallons, but it is not recommended to fill the tank to capacity, so stop at the first shutoff.

If you want to read the whole thread, click here. and if that's not enough information for you, here's another thread you can read.
AWESOME!!! so the 05 TL's have something that tells you when u need gas in the range? i need to look into that i know it has the oil life but not the gas, and as far as the 3 gallons left when the light comes on yea i filled up yesterday and the empty light came on and it took 13.5 gallons...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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OK, second click from now on....
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Just kidding - FIRST CLICK will be the order of the day.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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i dont have to pump my gas, i have own personal foreigner or even a teenager if i go to wawa...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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ya i wonder what those people in oregon or new jersey where its illegal to pump ur own gas, how they do it...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
Its actually the spark from static discharge or electrical impulse, like cell phone ringing, that sets off fuel vapors, not the already burning Cubano.

If you manage to overfill the tank so much that it would be pulled by the VAPOR line back to the stations tank- you have defied science. Fuel will run down the side of the car before that happens. That vent line only goes 20 feet up to safely discharge the fumes to the atmosphere, so long Ozone layer- we hardly knew ya

And Everyone please remember - after fueling MINIMUM 3 clicks on the gas cap or the CEL light will come on
I think you are misinformed about the vapor recovery function of the Va type nozzle. The vapors aren't being "recovered" just for ultimate release to the atmosphere as a fire prevention measure; it is an anti-pollution device. It would defeat the purpose if it were to just release the vapors a few feet upstream.

If liquid fuel gets in the vapor recovery line.... which happens if you overfill, the nozzle is supposed to shut off. But, if you continue to press the lever, you can keep sending gas into that part of the co-axial fuel hose.

The hose will not operate (this type) unless you compress the bellows portion more than 1/2", so the liquid gas cannot run down the side of the car unless you back off and break the seal on the filler neck.

For more details and drawings of the vapor recovery nozzle: http://www.guangmingdaily.com.cn/fue...nozzle005.html
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