Weekend races...hah
06-24-2007, 04:01 PM
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Weekend races...hah
My friend had a C230 AMG package as a rental, so we decided to see how it faired against my TL. From a dig, I launched a lot better and pulled about 2-3 cars on him. We did a 60mph roll, and I took him all the way up to 110mph. I had atleast 3-4 cars on him. All in all, the TL wins 
Only performance mod I have is the AEM cold air intake....I was also on 19x9 2-piece rays 203 (i dont care how "lightweight" they are, i still feel a difference) If I had my stock wheels on, i'm sure I wouldve taken him by much more 
Oh, and I had my ex gf in the passenger seat...so thats another 100lbs lol
Next up....E46 M3....quite embarrassing
Coming back home on the highway, a white E46 M3 tries fucking with me, so I decide what the hell....I've always wanted to race one. I had two people with me (190-200lbs each) and the M3 driver apeared to be solo. We lined up at 60mph, and I took him all the way through 3rd gear (60mph-110mph) He had me by a fender, but I don't think he was flooring it. I heard his engine though? He was probably in 6th gear while mine was redlining through 3rd haha Once I shifted to 4th, he started pulling about 5-6 cars on me I decided to just give up 
Only performance mod I have is the AEM cold air intake....I was also on 19x9 2-piece rays 203 (i dont care how "lightweight" they are, i still feel a difference) If I had my stock wheels on, i'm sure I wouldve taken him by much more Oh, and I had my ex gf in the passenger seat...so thats another 100lbs lolNext up....E46 M3....quite embarrassing
Coming back home on the highway, a white E46 M3 tries fucking with me, so I decide what the hell....I've always wanted to race one. I had two people with me (190-200lbs each) and the M3 driver apeared to be solo. We lined up at 60mph, and I took him all the way through 3rd gear (60mph-110mph) He had me by a fender, but I don't think he was flooring it. I heard his engine though? He was probably in 6th gear while mine was redlining through 3rd haha Once I shifted to 4th, he started pulling about 5-6 cars on me I decided to just give up
06-24-2007, 04:27 PM
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I'm getting tired of this TL AT cult members trying to race
JJaber06,
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
06-24-2007, 05:07 PM
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These "crappy" 19" wheels probably cost more than the down payment you put on your car bud
Its funny how you say don't race a Maxima or a G35, because I raced both, and beat em G35 sedan that is.
And if I wanted to race, I wouldn't get a TL period. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the TL isn't a race car. I mean if a mid 14 second car is your idea of a speed demon then have fun getting your ass handed to you by the same cars you told me not to race. That extra gear and stock wheels still won't let you hold against an M3 or a 335.
Its funny how you say don't race a Maxima or a G35, because I raced both, and beat em
G35 sedan that is. And if I wanted to race, I wouldn't get a TL period. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the TL isn't a race car. I mean if a mid 14 second car is your idea of a speed demon then have fun getting your ass handed to you by the same cars you told me not to race. That extra gear and stock wheels still won't let you hold against an M3 or a 335.
06-24-2007, 05:30 PM
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JJaber06,
No, you are not bursting my bubble, not even close.
The 6MT has the much of the advantage. There's a lot more to it then just an extra gear and having stock wheels.
It doesn't matter how much you spent on the 19" wheels. Spending a lot of money on the 19" set does not get you speed, but will only slow you down even more. You want to spend a lot of money on the wheels then get some high-end ultra-light wheels. Don't get anything wider than the factory spec. Those 19" set you got there seems heavy. They are far heavier than the factory. A perfect way to slow down your car. You also shouldn't be racing with two passengers. And how much do you weigh?
Since you say it's not a race car so why did you race? Doesn't make any sense.
Didn't mean to rain your parade but I get irritated when I see posts like this. You ain't the only one here. Most others are the same way too, except iforyou and few other guys which seem to know stuff and know what's good.
No, you are not bursting my bubble, not even close.
The 6MT has the much of the advantage. There's a lot more to it then just an extra gear and having stock wheels.
It doesn't matter how much you spent on the 19" wheels. Spending a lot of money on the 19" set does not get you speed, but will only slow you down even more. You want to spend a lot of money on the wheels then get some high-end ultra-light wheels. Don't get anything wider than the factory spec. Those 19" set you got there seems heavy. They are far heavier than the factory. A perfect way to slow down your car. You also shouldn't be racing with two passengers. And how much do you weigh?
Since you say it's not a race car so why did you race? Doesn't make any sense.
Didn't mean to rain your parade but I get irritated when I see posts like this. You ain't the only one here. Most others are the same way too, except iforyou and few other guys which seem to know stuff and know what's good.
06-24-2007, 05:44 PM
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The TL isn't a race car. Its FWD and nose heavy. If I want to drive a true race car, i'll take the all motor 6MT 350Z we have. The TL is a cruising car IMO, just like all of the cars I mentioned except for the M3 and 335. Doesn't stop me from having fun with it though The 5AT can still beat a lot of cars on the road, so why not race it? I can beat my friends 6MT RSX-S, the so called 2-door 6-speed LSD equipped sports car.
As for the wheels, they weigh less than stock. 23-24lbs vs. 26lbs. They're two piece with a forged barrel
The TL isn't a race car, so why do you race yours? Do you really think having a 6MT is gonna put you against the evo,sti,M3,350z etc...
Nope. You may hang longer than me, but the only thing that matters is who wins, not by how much you lose.
The 5AT can still beat a lot of cars on the road, so why not race it? I can beat my friends 6MT RSX-S, the so called 2-door 6-speed LSD equipped sports car. As for the wheels, they weigh less than stock. 23-24lbs vs. 26lbs.
They're two piece with a forged barrelThe TL isn't a race car, so why do you race yours? Do you really think having a 6MT is gonna put you against the evo,sti,M3,350z etc...
Nope. You may hang longer than me, but the only thing that matters is who wins, not by how much you lose.
06-24-2007, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MT_Teacher
JJaber06,
No, you are not bursting my bubble, not even close.
The 6MT has the much of the advantage. There's a lot more to it then just an extra gear and having stock wheels.
It doesn't matter how much you spent on the 19" wheels. Spending a lot of money on the 19" set does not get you speed, but will only slow you down even more. You want to spend a lot of money on the wheels then get some high-end ultra-light wheels. Don't get anything wider than the factory spec. Those 19" set you got there seems heavy. They are far heavier than the factory. A perfect way to slow down your car. You also shouldn't be racing with two passengers. And how much do you weigh?
Since you say it's not a race car so why did you race? Doesn't make any sense.
Didn't mean to rain your parade but I get irritated when I see posts like this. You ain't the only one here. Most others are the same way too, except iforyou and few other guys which seem to know stuff and know what's good.
No, you are not bursting my bubble, not even close.
The 6MT has the much of the advantage. There's a lot more to it then just an extra gear and having stock wheels.
It doesn't matter how much you spent on the 19" wheels. Spending a lot of money on the 19" set does not get you speed, but will only slow you down even more. You want to spend a lot of money on the wheels then get some high-end ultra-light wheels. Don't get anything wider than the factory spec. Those 19" set you got there seems heavy. They are far heavier than the factory. A perfect way to slow down your car. You also shouldn't be racing with two passengers. And how much do you weigh?
Since you say it's not a race car so why did you race? Doesn't make any sense.
Didn't mean to rain your parade but I get irritated when I see posts like this. You ain't the only one here. Most others are the same way too, except iforyou and few other guys which seem to know stuff and know what's good.
Anyways, looks like there's a flame war going on...
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06-24-2007, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Thanks there buddy for mentioning me lol
Anyways, looks like there's a flame war going on...
Anyways, looks like there's a flame war going on...
Nah... no flame wars here. I was trying to teach the guy a few tips but he tries to resist...
I tried to confront him but..... Oh well.
06-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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Lol, a few tips?
Don't buy bigger wheels...they weigh more!
Don't drive with other people! They add weight to a car!
Autos aren't meant for racing!
I could get the same advice from a drunk bum in DC
Funny how you don't have much else to say, but its all good.
Don't buy bigger wheels...they weigh more!
Don't drive with other people! They add weight to a car!
Autos aren't meant for racing!
I could get the same advice from a drunk bum in DC
Funny how you don't have much else to say, but its all good.
06-24-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MT_Teacher
JJaber06,
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
I love my TL-s even though the CL-6 is faster(stock v.s stock) That's why I got some bolt-ons to make up for it! There are many 5AT's on this site that'll make quick work of your 6MT.........so u wanna race
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Lol, a few tips?
Don't buy bigger wheels...they weigh more!
Don't drive with other people! They add weight to a car!
Autos aren't meant for racing!
I could get the same advice from a drunk bum in DC
Funny how you don't have much else to say, but its all good.
Don't buy bigger wheels...they weigh more!
Don't drive with other people! They add weight to a car!
Autos aren't meant for racing!
I could get the same advice from a drunk bum in DC
Funny how you don't have much else to say, but its all good.
Don't even think about trying to compare with the 6MT...
06-24-2007, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Soseductivesf
There are many 5AT's on this site that'll make quick work of your 6MT.
The other day I put more than a bus length on the 3rd gen TL AT car. Going from 0 to about 100. No surprise there because I knew what the outcomes will be. I try to tell the AT guys don't even try..... The AT has no punch to it. The 3rd gear screams some at high rpm but after that when you shift to 4th, it's got no pull. Heck... even the 6MT has the closer gear ratio on the 5th gear than the 5th gear on the AT. Plus the extra weight on the AT.
06-25-2007, 04:55 AM
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How? With what... turbo's and superchargers?
The other day I put more than a bus length on the 3rd gen TL AT car. Going from 0 to about 100. No surprise there because I knew what the outcomes will be. I try to tell the AT guys don't even try..... The AT has no punch to it. The 3rd gear screams some at high rpm but after that when you shift to 4th, it's got no pull. Heck... even the 6MT has the closer gear ratio on the 5th gear than the 5th gear on the AT. Plus the extra weight on the AT.
The other day I put more than a bus length on the 3rd gen TL AT car. Going from 0 to about 100. No surprise there because I knew what the outcomes will be. I try to tell the AT guys don't even try..... The AT has no punch to it. The 3rd gear screams some at high rpm but after that when you shift to 4th, it's got no pull. Heck... even the 6MT has the closer gear ratio on the 5th gear than the 5th gear on the AT. Plus the extra weight on the AT.
Its funny, because 3rd gear will take you all the way to 100 so no need to shift to 4th.
06-25-2007, 08:36 AM
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Who cares what kind of car someone else chooses to drive? The choice is that of the buyer only...
No matter how fast your car is, there is always someone faster and slower, except those 2 people: the one with the fastest and the one with the slowest...
No matter how fast your car is, there is always someone faster and slower, except those 2 people: the one with the fastest and the one with the slowest...
06-25-2007, 08:53 AM
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6MT_Teacher, since you cant receive PM's
within seven posts you already are starting in with people.
its rare when someone with only 7 posts comes onto a site and talks like this. very argumentative
consider this your first warning...
EDIT: disregard
its rare when someone with only 7 posts comes onto a site and talks like this. very argumentative
consider this your first warning...
EDIT: disregard
06-25-2007, 11:06 AM
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Thank you trance.
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Originally Posted by 6MT_Teacher
JJaber06,
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
I've been reading this forum around for a while now and I see so many TL AT drivers trying to race.
You own the TL version, don't even try to race with anybody on the street. Of course you will lose to the BMW M and 335 class cars. Don't even try to race with a Maxima or G35. You will lose. So stop embarassing me with this competition stuff. You want to race, sell your car and get a 6MT. Remove those crappy 19" rims. You are doing all you can to "slow" your car down, which is, incredibly stupid idea.... this is why I'm telling you, don't even try to race with anybody, unless it's some GEO prism or something. There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many AT lovers. Trust me, the paddle shift does not get you faster. It's just for fun, not for performance.
06-26-2007, 07:22 PM
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wow..he got banned...hope that dont happen to me
anywho...i dont see anything wrong with racing in our AT TL. I just ran my friends 6spd and got whipped...haha gonna retry now since i have CAI and UR pulley.
I think its fine if we race those in our leagues...such as those damn RSX type S hehe (this coming from a former RSX-s Owner)
Jjabber, which kind of Maxima / G35 did you beat? were they auto and what year?
lol yeah the c230s are slugs...but hey...they sure do leak CLEAN! keep it safe out there bro
anywho...i dont see anything wrong with racing in our AT TL. I just ran my friends 6spd and got whipped...haha gonna retry now since i have CAI and UR pulley.
I think its fine if we race those in our leagues...such as those damn RSX type S hehe (this coming from a former RSX-s Owner)
Jjabber, which kind of Maxima / G35 did you beat? were they auto and what year?
lol yeah the c230s are slugs...but hey...they sure do leak CLEAN! keep it safe out there bro
06-26-2007, 08:13 PM
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[QUOTE=JJaber06]Lol, a few tips?
Autos aren't meant for racing!
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I beg to differ. Autos aren't meant for torqueless wonders like the TL. Put an auto behind something with real power and the auto will be faster every time.
Autos aren't meant for racing!
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I beg to differ. Autos aren't meant for torqueless wonders like the TL. Put an auto behind something with real power and the auto will be faster every time.
06-27-2007, 01:20 AM
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isnt it true that the amg benz's only come in AT b/c it shifts just as fast if not faster than a mt without the possibility of human error????
...so i guess according to 6MT_Teacher none of us 2nd gen guys are allowed to run our cars cuz we all have ATs haha... well most of us anyhow... lol
...so i guess according to 6MT_Teacher none of us 2nd gen guys are allowed to run our cars cuz we all have ATs haha... well most of us anyhow... lol
06-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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I beg to differ. Autos aren't meant for torqueless wonders like the TL. Put an auto behind something with real power and the auto will be faster every time.
Torque is definitely one of the reasons why a 4AT 5.5G Maxima is only about .2-.3/3mph slower through the traps than its 6MT counterpart. Unfortunately, the same likely cannot be said of the 04-06 TL of 7G Accord.
06-27-2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
a bus length? LOL
Its funny, because 3rd gear will take you all the way to 100 so no need to shift to 4th.
Its funny, because 3rd gear will take you all the way to 100 so no need to shift to 4th.
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Originally Posted by 03bl AC k CL
isnt it true that the amg benz's only come in AT b/c it shifts just as fast if not faster than a mt without the possibility of human error????
...so i guess according to 6MT_Teacher none of us 2nd gen guys are allowed to run our cars cuz we all have ATs haha... well most of us anyhow... lol
...so i guess according to 6MT_Teacher none of us 2nd gen guys are allowed to run our cars cuz we all have ATs haha... well most of us anyhow... lol
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