Very dissapointed with my traction in the tl
#41
Boy, after reading all of this stuff, it makes me glad I live in an area that doesn't get snow. The last time they "thought" it was gonna snow, the governor shut down the state, and then it was 70 degrees outside, lol.
#42
snow tires is a 50% factor of being stable on the road in the snow, the other 50% is you, the driver guided by your experiences.
Don't raise the rpms, go well below the speed limit, don't panic, steer towards the sliding vector, and if you really having difficulty braking, e-brake the car very slowly to stop fishtailing. But of course, each car is different, learn how you car behaves on an empty parking lot (weight distribution)
And in regards to saying that a TL is crap in snow, drive a RWD, you'll change your mind really fast. I was terrified in my bmw in the snow, lol.
Don't raise the rpms, go well below the speed limit, don't panic, steer towards the sliding vector, and if you really having difficulty braking, e-brake the car very slowly to stop fishtailing. But of course, each car is different, learn how you car behaves on an empty parking lot (weight distribution)
And in regards to saying that a TL is crap in snow, drive a RWD, you'll change your mind really fast. I was terrified in my bmw in the snow, lol.
#43
Originally Posted by Eoanou
I was fine in the winter with the stock Bridgestones, until this winter, and that can be attributed to one thing, 31K miles of wear.
And for the OP three words "Snow Friggin Tires !!!" The only "problem" the TL has in the snow is low ground clearance. I've driven better in the snow ('79 Saab 900T w/ snows) but the TL is just fine.
#44
Originally Posted by mengelke
If you are going to live in snow country pop for the extra wheels and get real winter tires. The TL rocks with Blizzaks. Traction control on or off if you like to play.
Never compare all seasons as anything close to a snow tire.
Just a note from one of the old guys here.
Never compare all seasons as anything close to a snow tire.
Just a note from one of the old guys here.
To heck with the tires, I just wanna get warm
Or should that be
#45
my Pirelli PZero Nero M&S work great here in Michigan. and thats with about 25k miles on them. they are not as good as snow tires, but they have been the best all seasons i have ever driven in both the summer and winter. they came stock with my aspec package.
#46
Originally Posted by TeknoKing
snow tires is a 50% factor of being stable on the road in the snow, the other 50% is you, the driver guided by your experiences.
Don't raise the rpms, go well below the speed limit, don't panic, steer towards the sliding vector, and if you really having difficulty braking, e-brake the car very slowly to stop fishtailing. But of course, each car is different, learn how you car behaves on an empty parking lot (weight distribution)
And in regards to saying that a TL is crap in snow, drive a RWD, you'll change your mind really fast. I was terrified in my bmw in the snow, lol.
Don't raise the rpms, go well below the speed limit, don't panic, steer towards the sliding vector, and if you really having difficulty braking, e-brake the car very slowly to stop fishtailing. But of course, each car is different, learn how you car behaves on an empty parking lot (weight distribution)
And in regards to saying that a TL is crap in snow, drive a RWD, you'll change your mind really fast. I was terrified in my bmw in the snow, lol.
I would say 70% tires, 20% common sense, 10% skill.
With good snow tires, most people can drive within the legal/normal boundaries. Common sense to slow it down a bit and all the usual sensible things to do in the winter plays a part. True skill probably comes in mostly in extreme circumstances (skidding on ice) or evasive manuevers against others on the road who are out of control...
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