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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Verizon v710 Bluetooth won't work...

I just got off the phone with two different reps for Acura HFL (HandsFreeLink) and both explained to me that the Verizon phone coming out won't work with the 2004 TL. Regardless of the fact it will have Bluetooth, it won't work because it uses CDMA technology and not GSM for cellular transmission. Apparently, there is a profile within the car specifically for GSM, not CDMA. So the phone "may" pair, but no phone calls can be made.

BTW... I didn't call about the Verizon phone. I just wanted to know what phones they had the most problems with. They volunteered info on phones current and upcoming.

So maybe some of our wait is over. I want to use Bluetooth and will have to look into ATT, Cingular, or T-Mobile.



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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Then how does the T608 works with Sprint? It's CDMA too right?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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The Cellular technology shouldn't matter...it depends on the Bluetooth Profiles available on the Phone and HFL. As long as the V710 Supports the Handsfree profile it should work just fine.

Note: I used the work "should"...that's computer speak for "You won't know until you try!"
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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I'm agreeing with everyone else...bluetooth accessories can work with all phones, so it seems the technology is universal...but we will soon see
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Then how does the T608 works with Sprint? It's CDMA too right?
I think Sprint uses a combination of both.

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The Cellular technology shouldn't matter...it depends on the Bluetooth Profiles available on the Phone and HFL. As long as the V710 Supports the Handsfree profile it should work just fine.
That's what I told them, that's when they told me, it may pair but won't make the call.

I don't completely understand, that's why I provided the number for others to call and check themselves.

I don't care either way, I jus want to use the bluetooth system. I hate paying for something and not being able to use it. I mean, what if it's broken? How would I know?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSunshine
I just got off the phone with two different reps for Acura HFL (HandsFreeLink) and both explained to me that the Verizon phone coming out won't work with the 2004 TL. Regardless of the fact it will have Bluetooth, it won't work because it uses CDMA technology and not GSM for cellular transmission. Apparently, there is a profile within the car specifically for GSM, not CDMA.
WOW! That takes the prize for the dumbest thing any representative ever uttered! There's not a shred of truth in that statement. Why do ignorant reps feel this urge to invent things, when they don't know the answer? :ar15:
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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The Acura reps you spoke with are misinformed. Bluetooth has nothing to do with CDMA. I use a SE T608, a CDMA phone, with SprintPCS, a strictly CDMA provider. It pairs up and works flawlessly with HFL. The T608 is included on Acura's own list of HFL compatible phones.

If Motorola implements BT correctly (and Verizon doesn't deliberately cripple BT functionality in the firmware), the phone should work, regardless of the provider's wireless protocol.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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I bet they do not know what HFL is. Also the bluetooth handfree profile version difference is the only factor that will determine if the V710 is compatible or not. I hope it'll work with HFL. Anyone knows what BT HF version V710 have?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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it won't work because it uses CDMA technology and not GSM for cellular transmission. Apparently, there is a profile within the car specifically for GSM, not CDMA.
The HFL feature, as stated above, is all that matters. Bottom line is, Bluetooth is the communication format between the car and the phone. The phone communicates with the cell using it's transmission format, CDMA, GSM, etc. They are isolated from one another, that's the whole point! Your just controlling your phone through a wireless medium, Bluetooth, instead of physically "pushing the buttons". Talk about misinformation
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Yeah, that's some pretty poor info they gave you there. But either way, I'm still happy I just swithed to cingular. HFL works great and I just passed my 2 week trial period, so there's no turning back now. Just have to pay the verizon ETF. $175, GULP!
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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send a pm to mobilezen, he can likely help you out
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Hey BlackSunshine,
The rep gave you some misinformation. The Acura HandsFreeLink "will" pair up and work great with a CDMA phone. I know this to be the case because I have this setup and I have it using Verizon's CDMA network. This is not the norm and both Sprint and Verizon will not assist nor offer any support. I bought a Sprint Sony Ericsson T608 on ebay. I then unlocked the phone and programmed it to work on Verizon. It's not the best setup (web access and text messaging don 't work) but the handsfree works flawless. I fully expect that the motorola V710 will be compatible with the TL for pairing and making/receiving calls however as far as what displays appear on the MID remains to be seen. Some phones display more MID information than others. Even though I have the T608 I too am waiting for the V710 to be released. I miss being able to send text messages.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSunshine
I just got off the phone with two different reps for Acura HFL (HandsFreeLink) and both explained to me that the Verizon phone coming out won't work with the 2004 TL. Regardless of the fact it will have Bluetooth, it won't work because it uses CDMA technology and not GSM for cellular transmission. Apparently, there is a profile within the car specifically for GSM, not CDMA. So the phone "may" pair, but no phone calls can be made.

BTW... I didn't call about the Verizon phone. I just wanted to know what phones they had the most problems with. They volunteered info on phones current and upcoming.

So maybe some of our wait is over. I want to use Bluetooth and will have to look into ATT, Cingular, or T-Mobile.



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