AckTL05

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not really because the type s has a more free flowing cat system and exhaust which I believe is 18% more free flowing so getting a full exhaust would benefit more for the base than type s. I do not think they are arguing about that though. What they are saying is that for the 5 grand to get the type s over the base can make the base just as fast/nice.

dave_ramkumar

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+1

SG81

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the TL and TL-S are great cars. i'd love to have either one, as long as it's a M/T

Steve5.9

I have a '05 base auto TL, but I WISH I had a type S with the rear back up camera, two tone seats, sweet headlights and taillights, rear a spec, awesome quad exhaust, and not to mention the NAAAAAAASTY 6MT.

My next car will be an '08 type S FOR SURE!!!!! Definitely worth it IMO

Bender

Yea, base models are garbage. Is is really sad that people bought them. Peasants.

AckTL05

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I have a back up camera = 300 and it gave me DVD player in my Navigation. A seat is a seat, really. I cleared my headlights = free. I made my own "sweet tail lights", which are my avatar. If I am not mistaken, all TL's has an A-SPEC kit. Quads, you got me there, but my comptech exhaust is nice as well. "Nasty 6MT" that you speak of is also available in 04-08 base models as I have a 6MT. So for ~500 dollars instead of ~5k, its worth 4,500 to spend on a TYPE - S to get what you want?


Listen, I am not knocking a TYPE-S. I would love to own a type s, but I bought my car in 05. It is just not worth selling my car or getting ripped off on a trade and spending about 8-12k on a TYPE-S, not to mention if I ever find one I want with low miles and pristine condition. I just think some people need to do research before they put down the BASE. I say that because I read about 4 different people talking about the Brembos and 6MT in the TYPE-S when it was available in the Base.

Bender

LoL this is so true, in fact it is just a car, it's not even an amazing car, it's a nice reliable car. There are so many jack asses here that seem to think that the car is who they are when in fact they are just douche bags.

SilverJ

If I could buy a Type S today I would, but I wouldnt pay 10-12k to upgrade from my existing 6 speed TL.....the cars are too similar IMO and its not worth it to me. The one thing that you should absolutely have if you are capable of driving one is a manual. The TL to this day is one of the rare sport sedans that offer a manual (in the 6 cyl models) and its worth it times 10. Its a rather boring car without the manual IMO.

Silver_Surfer

How does the 3.2L compare to the 3.5L?

JwongTLS

u can feel the difference when u drive a base and type-s 6mt even tho 28 ponies dont sound much.

brihutch3

Agreed, I was surprised at how much more power the 3.5 has. The handling was the biggest upgrade though.