Cheesehead20

When I shift from park to reverse with the brake pedal firmly pressed a loud clunk noise occurs. 120k miles 05. Would you believe at this age the mount is going?

MonkeyTrucker

Regardless of any symptoms, I'd replace all 6 mounts (engine/transmission) with that mileage.

Vlad_Type_S

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The side mount is usually the first one to go. But I would agree that replacing all of them at once is best.

Cheesehead20

What would happen if I dont?

Vlad_Type_S

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When one mount fails, the others aren't far behind. It'll just end up costing more money in the long run.

Also, when one mount is broken, extra stress gets put on the others. So, by just replacing one, you're already wearing the newly replaced one out faster by not replacing the others.

Cheesehead20

The dealer quoted me 1900 for all 6. Obviously i won't go there. I'll have my mechanic buddy do it. Why does it cost so much?

Vlad_Type_S

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Because they're pulling your leg. That's quite high. Where in Wisconsin do you live, cheesehead?

Cheesehead20

So cal

MonkeyTrucker

See page two of this thread Cheesehead:
https://acurazine.com/forums/problem.../#post15621273

I've seen mounts identical to OEM on eBay as well, including the vacuum ports. If you search a little of my posts, you can find that post as well.


It's really not that difficult to do yourself.

MonkeyTrucker

Funny, made me lol.

Cheesehead20

I do haha

MonkeyTrucker

I think he was assuming you're a Packers fan, thus living in Wisconsin.

Cheese Head <--- Link

Assuming you weren't aware of NFL fandom, lol.

Vlad_Type_S

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I lived in WI for a while and know a good dealer in the Fox Valley that would do the job at an honest price, that's why I asked where you lived, because I wanted to recommend them.

If you're mechanically inclined and have some tools, you could tackle this yourself. But if you don't have the right tools for the job, it's very time consuming (extensions, swivel joints, ratcheting wrenches). MonkeyTrucker's linked thread has a lot of great information, including the part numbers for the mounts, and a ton of photos. Very useful. As you can tell, your dealer wanted to charge you $1300+ in labor which is astronomically inflated (read: rip-off).

Cheesehead20

My friend is a mechanic so he can do it however I don't want to bother him for a while maybe 6 months when I get an oil change. I would think it could wait until then.

Vlad_Type_S

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Sounds like you might be expecting him to do it for free/super cheap? Don't abuse your mechanic friends. Arrange something and ask for an honest price. It'll definitely be much lower than $1900. If it's already making a clunking noise, I would advise against putting it off any longer.

Cheesehead20

No I'm not trying to have him do it for free. I've already had him do the pressure switches and replace a cracked air intake hose in the last 6 weeks I just don't want to annoy him by showing up all the time.

Vlad_Type_S

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Haha okay good.

Well, good luck! I'd still say to take care of it sooner rather than later.

Cheesehead20

What's a good price for all 6 mounts parts and labor do you think?

MonkeyTrucker

I'd charge you $250-300 in labor. Have it back to you in three-four hours. You'd pay more in OEM parts than you would for the honest labor.

Again, it's pretty simple stuff.

Cheesehead20

How can they charge over 1000 in labor alone more like 1600 then? I guess if people are willing to pay for it.

Vlad_Type_S

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That's why I said they were pulling your leg! Blowin smoke. Even at dealership prices, with new Acura parts, it should cost less than $1000 for all six. At an independent shop, closer to $700 including parts.

Cheesehead20

I bet the honda dealer across the street would be more reasonable.

Vlad_Type_S

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Absolutely.

Cheesehead20

Thanks man. Appreciate all the good information. I really can't afford to take my car to an Acura dealership. Honda it is.

MonkeyTrucker

I've mentioned this in other threads, even the service advisors are salesmen. Folks need to realize this. My guess is he read you like a book and has been playing the game a long time. Higher up the chain you get, the worse "quotes" you'll get in my experience. At least until they recognize you as a regular and very knowledgeable guest. Pretty sure these guys in the service sales department get commission as well as the floor salesmen.

How can I become a Honda Service Advisor? - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums

Confessions From the Dealership Service Department -- Edmunds.com

Why folks go to a salesman to get something fixed, or better troubleshooted perplexes me. I relied on them sparingly in the past for a quick oil change here and there or a timing belt job. But have gone strictly DIY for all things this year.

A single investment in a quality set of mechanic related tools will cost less than a single fleecing at a dealership.

Cheesehead20

Yeah I would never pay that price for that I just called to see what they would charge. The guy I spoke to was the service manager.

MonkeyTrucker

He's the guy most likely to rip you off. Think about it. Who would the owner of the dealership be most likely to promote to higher levels within any department, especially those related to sales. It's those that bring in the most money to the dealership. Understand, it's not Honda that is promoting dealership employees. The owner is strictly motivated by the bottom line and growing it.

The higher ups in sales positions are the best at fleecing you with you either being unaware of it, or left feeling good about it (trust of the interaction).

The savings you'll see in labor at a Honda dealership will be minimal for the same reasons.

They're OK with you taking your $$ elsewhere, because the department is usually lined up the wazoo with others ready and willing to hand over any $$ they're told it will take to fix their vehicle.

Vlad_Type_S

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I stand corrected.

nist7

Dang! Good points. The salesmen aren't just the guys in suits in the showroom floor....actually this makes sense cause dealerships make the majority of their money from service dept.

But to answer your point....the MAJORITY of people are not car enthusiasts AND of course they trust a "factory-branded" place to fix their nice entry level luxury cars.

IE: my car's first owner, an older lady whose son worked at honda (hubby is a lawyer) and helped get a deal on a brand new 06 TL...she had it serviced almost entire life at Acura Dealer.

Including the 105k service which total came out to $3000: TB, WP, spark plugs, valve adjustment, motor mounts, and oil change and some other small things....

So when you have money and you don't care about saving money or getting down and dirty....you can just drop your car off at the local Acura/Lexus/Infiniti/BMW/etc. take the loaner car and then come back with your car all done and you're ready to move on with your life......

paperboy42190

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if you're in socal, let me know if you need help installing the mounts. I've helped lots of local members with installs before.