just wondering, how much transmission lag is considered "normal"? My 07 tl-s seems to have a laggy transmission compared to my past cars. it drives great and no problems, but it would take almost a full second from when i switch from P, R, or D. Also, what about when shifting manually? I have an automatic TL-S, and when I have it on D, it shifts great, no problems or lag at all. However in manual mode, whether shifting with the paddle shifters or the shift knob, it seems to lag maybe 3/4 of a second. Basically if I were to floor it, I would need to shift at around 5k rpm for it not bounce off the rev limiter from the lag. The gear # display on dash responds instantly but the actual shift seems to lag. If this is normal for a TL-S, I don't really mind since its not a big deal to me because the car drives great. But just wondering if everyone else is experiencing the same thing.

It'd be great if someone local to me could show me their car and I would know if its the same for everyone.

 

After I switched to redline d4 ATF. It helped a lot with the lag IMO. And shifts are a lot smoother too. Just get that Z1 crap out of your car asap if you haven't done so already. I see that you live in Alhambra. So I can let you drive my car after I get it back from the body shop if you like. Hopefully i can it back by tomorrow or Friday.

 

I use Redline Type F and mine has that delay changing from P-R-D.
I don't need to shift earlier to avoid the rev limiter like you said though.

 

I was just about to ask the same question, but now that its answered hopefully sometime by next week I will make the time to swap out the fluid. Since the price isn't much different should I just go for the type F since its racing fluid even though my car is a daily driver with my occasional having fun on an empty road? or does it not make a difference since im not really going to the track and i have a stock transmission not a racing one?
Thanks

 

You'll be fine with the Redline Racing Type F. No need to worry about it.

 

how do you guys do the transition from z1 to the redline atf? im assuming a 3x3 drain and fill wont be sufficient?

 

so, redline d4 or redline racing type F? what do you guys think? type F has no FM which i hear makes less smooth shifts, how bad will it be?

quotes from nva-av6: Type F fluid is a BIG NO NO, it has detergent in it and will destroy the seals in the soliniod within 3-6 months (seen it happen). Other Honda trans I have seen run with Dextron I,II,III usually have clutch failures quickly.

 

Serously? This has been gone over a million times. Try a search and enjoy a few days worth of reading.

 

fine...

i already read some threads btw.

 

Redline racing or any other type F like Amsoil Super Shift for everyone from a grandma to a pure track car. It's marketed as a racing fluid now but at one time it was an OEM fluid. Just marketing, that's all.

Less FM equals quicker shifts, more holding power, and much less wear. Because the shifts are quicker and the bump shift is eliminated shifts actually feel better yet it's shifting quicker and harder. It's the best of all worlds. No need for D4 or any other non type f fluid and no worries about mixing with Z1 or how quickly you do all 3 of the drains and fills. You car will shift better than stock and you will nearly eliminate trans wear. This fluid along with the switches will nearly eliminate trans failures.


Most Type F fluids are fully compatible with our trans and it's seals. Type F only designates no FM so it can be a synthetic, dino, thick, thin, it can have lots of detergents or no detergents and seal swell agents. Redline and Amsoil's versions are basically the same fluid as their street stuff but without FM.

 

You wont regret type F. After 50,000 miles i did my 07 type s yesterday and i can really feel the difference. Theres also some metal particles on the magnetic bolt so im glad i did the flush. A little tip would be to jack the driver side and you'll get 4 quarts per drain. I ordered a case of 12 so i in my case its 4x3.

 

Definitely Type F done with a 3X3, no if's, and's, or but's.

 

okay you guys got me convinced. im gonna change it out to redline racing atf

 

just ordered this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._ya_os_product

 

I use to get this as well but it improved allot going to the new dw1 fluid. I always ran z1 before and delays and sloppy shifting were common.

 

i heard mixed reviews about the new fluid being compatible or not. dont make me regret the 12 quarts of redline type f atf i just ordered :X

 

well they just replaced my trans in my 06 with 69K miles, i asked about the DW1 but they filled it with Z1 and said only 2010 and up get the DW1?

 

My neighbor is a service manager at a large Honda dealer and was told dw1 is safe in all Honda Acura cars in recent years. He also said it's better but time will tell my car is shifting much better on it but I'm still curious on the mixture as there is so many different comments on the web about it. Also my car has always clunked into 3rd gear at low speeds in traffic and what not and that has since gone away switching to the dw1. Also I had my valves adjusted so don't no if that and the throttle body being cleaned in combination with the fluid had something to do with it.

 

I'm always amazed at how retarded Acura is. I'll guarantee the new fluid is there for the ever tightening fuel economy standards. GM went with a lightweight with the DEX VI fluid and now Honda along with some others are doing it too. The primary purpose of this fluid is it's lower viscosity gain that important .5mpg if you do a lot of short trips where the fluid hardly ever gets to full temp. The thinner when cold fluid is easier to pump so there's less pumping/friction losses.

To clarify, the new stuff is there to help with CAFE standards. It's not to make your trans last longer. Marketing will spin it every which way but it's there for fuel economy. 0.5mpg is not much to us but when you sell a million cars it adds up for Honda.

The good side is it forces them to use a better base oil to achieve adequate hot protection (maybe a semi-syn??). I saw a patent paper which had a few clues pointing to the use of less FM in this fluid. They didn't come right out and say it but it's a pretty safe guess. They're only 12 years too late....

But the Type F is still a huge step up in wear protection and performance since it uses no FM. And if you go with the Amsoil and especially the Redline the base oils are waaaay better.

I would view the new Honda fluid as the bare minimum, what Honda should have been using many years ago and the Type F as a serious upgrade.

 

Now I really want to change my fluid to a type f. That's what I get for jumping the gun. Thanks for the info. At least it's better marginally than the z1 it sounds like.

 

The worst part is my local advanced auto probably thinks I am a at home mechanic with all the trans fluid I keep bringing in for recycling. That's the worst part I wish they offered a at home reasonable used oil pickup service.

 

now you guys got my excited for my package of 12 quarts of redline type F this saturday

 

Don't get too excited man. I have a 07 Type-S also and hated the trans lag. I changed out the 3 pressure switches and change the fluid to Redline Type F. I feel no improvement at all. If anything the trans feels worse. Harsher shifts.

 

You're the only one I've heard about in nearly 100 cases. Everyone else loves it, quicker shifting along with less harshness. Maybe your car has other issues. Regardless it's a great success ratio.

 

^agreed. night n day difference for me. i'm doing another 1x3 at my next oil change n switching out the switches.

 

i thought its only 2 pressure switches? 3rd and 4th gear? what else is there?

 

there is 2 3rd gear switches and 1 4th gear for the RL trannies, that's you.

read this thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...builder&page=8

 

oic, i thought i only had 1 of each. thanks! i'll be replacing all 3 pressure sensors when i reach around 100k miles

 

I would do the sensors every 50k miles. I'm also doing an ATF 3x3 every other oil change.


lol at how many times IHC needs to explain the same transmission things over and over again.

/edit. Here's all the info you need:

 

^agreed with leedog.

go ahead n do the switches when you do the 3x3

 

my package came 1 day early! i just finished my drain and fill 4x (used all 12 qts). car definitely shifts quicker!

 

reason that i am putting the pressure switches off until 100k miles is that i think the previous owner had alrdy done them before.

 

Are you 100% sure the previous owner changed it? Do you have any records?

If you don't then I'd change them.

 

I would highly doubt they did it unless they were as much of an enthusiast as we are. I doubt they are even aware of the 3rd and 4th gear switch change unless they were a member of this board.

 

i bought the car from a member here at acurazine and i also found the ad for the car here in the black market section. i found a few of his posts in the 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches thread so thats why i think he alrdy changed them. he took good care of the car and did the 3x3 drain and fill with z1 periodically. he also installed a dvd player hooked up to the stock nav on the car himself.

i tried the paddle shifters earlier and it definitely feels like theres less lag. i can press the shifter around 5500-6000 rpm and still not bounce off the rev limiter.

 

Ok so TWO 3rd gear switches and ONE 4th gear right?

Because I read this in another thread..

Just making sure it is not ONE 3rd gear switch and TWO 4th gear switch

 

Sorry if its a bit off topic here. I also just switched to type F 7 days ago and im having a difficult time reading the dip stick. The best reading i got was 3/8 above the max line. Is this fine or should i siphon it out? Whats the best way of taking the level reading?

 

So I've experienced the same lag and have bounced off of the rev limiter, not a big deal for me since I rarely use manual mode, but does doing this hurt the tranny at all?

 

i checked the acura parts diagram. its for sure two 3rd gear switches, and one 4th gear switch.

 

you should be fine

well it puts stress for revving so high but its a reliable car so it should be fine if u dont do it too much