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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 10:52 PM
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Took the TL drag racing, need tips

I'm looking for tips to get into the 14's in the quarter mile. I got a 15.41 at 91 mph. My mods are a weapon r Sri, Atlp j pipe v2, Atlp race pipe, tanabe Medalion touring cat back. 2008 Base 5at
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 11:57 PM
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well, I dont think that sri is helping at all, might be causing more heatsoak if anything. best mods would be a good set of tires and a good launch, and make sure you are in manual mode to take advantage of the slightly higher rev limiter so you dont have to shift into 4th at the end of the 1/4. its a bit tricky shifting at the exact rpm because of the input lag on the TL's manual mode, but practice will help
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 02:49 AM
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well, I dont think that sri is helping at all, might be causing more heatsoak if anything. best mods would be a good set of tires and a good launch, and make sure you are in manual mode to take advantage of the slightly higher rev limiter so you dont have to shift into 4th at the end of the 1/4. its a bit tricky shifting at the exact rpm because of the input lag on the TL's manual mode, but practice will help
Yeah to be honest the Sri was mostly because I'm cheap and didn't want to pay the big bucks for a cai but also cause I wanted to hear that sweet induction sound haha. It actually seemed that the manual mode was slower than the auto at the drags but that just might be human error! New tires is a pretty good idea
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 03:04 AM
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05 TL. 0 mods. Tinted windows, armorall on dash and tires, i also vacuumed a few days ago.

Not to bad considering the roads are close to freezing temps this time of year and my tires spin way too much at launch. Also how did you get only half a second faster with 30km/h faster speeds?

The best times i got were in the low 15s, but that was before they rebuilt my transmission, since then, it seems much harder just to get anywhere close
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 03:08 AM
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05 TL. 0 mods. Tinted windows, armorall on dash and tires, i also vacuumed a few days ago.

Not to bad considering the roads are close to freezing temps this time of year and my tires spin way too much at launch. Also how did you get only half a second faster with 30km/h faster speeds?

The best times i got were in the low 15s, but that was before they rebuilt my transmission, since then, it seems much harder just to get anywhere close
Sorry what?
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:08 AM
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1.) Drop weight
2.) Better tires
3.) Post actual time slips so we can see how your launch is
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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better tires is key to getting better times
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackass
1.) Drop weight
2.) Better tires
3.) Post actual time slips so we can see how your launch is
I was gonna say that. Glad somebody else did so I could +1 it.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 10:03 AM
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Wants faster times at the drag strip but doesn't want to invest the money required to do so.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 03:58 PM
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Buy a six speed, mod it right and then you can jump right into the 13's.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Post the time slip. cause one of the most important is the launch or the 60-feet time. that can eat lot into the 1/4 et.

Otherwise doesn't seem to far off...i mean it is a street car.

Immediate and effective tips:
Better tires
Reduce all non-essential weight (any crap in trunk or seats)
Use only 1/4 or less gasoline in tank (fuel is very heavy, dont drag with a full tank of gas)
Use the manual mode as noted above and other drag racing launch techniques
Make sure any ATF/spark plugs maintenace is uptodate

(also doing some pre-load on the trans may help...ie standing on brakes with some partial throttle engaged....this seems to be a common advice I read for launching Automatics....but I am not nearly enough knowledgeable to give detailed advice on launching regular autmatic trans....maybe someone else can chip in as well)

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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackass
1.) Drop weight
2.) Better tires
3.) Post actual time slips so we can see how your launch is
This was on Yokohama avid envigor tires with a 1/4 tank of gas, manual mode with no traction control
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Wants faster times at the drag strip but doesn't want to invest the money required to do so.
It's just hard for me to justify paying a hefty amount for how little it returns for my car, I picked the Sri up from a friend for dirt cheap and I enjoy the sound
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendenacura
It's just hard for me to justify paying a hefty amount for how little it returns for my car, I picked the Sri up from a friend for dirt cheap and I enjoy the sound
I believe from what those that have spent hundreds, thousands on mods, they all seem to say it comes to about 50 to 100$ per HP gain. Yup. Expensive
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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My car runs about a second faster and traps around 98 consistently. It's an 06 5at. Here are my mods... CAI, 3.7 TB & IM, pnp runners, TB coolant bypass, IM thermal gasket, type s cats, RV6 V3 j-pipe, and lightweight forged wheels. That recipe will get you mid 14's all day.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gstealth
My car runs about a second faster and traps around 98 consistently. It's an 06 5at. Here are my mods... CAI, 3.7 TB & IM, pnp runners, TB coolant bypass, IM thermal gasket, type s cats, RV6 V3 j-pipe, and lightweight forged wheels. That recipe will get you mid 14's all day.
I've heard about the TB coolant bypass, is that to help prevent heat soak or what? New wheels and tires are my next purchase cause whoever owned my car before me ran my poor wheels into the curb on each one
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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That's correct. The best part about it is that it's simple and FREE! It prevents the hot coolant from recirculating through the TB which heat soaks the entire manifold.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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You lost over a second on the R/T. Consistent R/T is key to good times. You leave a second earlier, you arrive a second earlier.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by polish_pat
I believe from what those that have spent hundreds, thousands on mods, they all seem to say it comes to about 50 to 100$ per HP gain. Yup. Expensive
I was debating going to get performance mods but the prices are just too high for the HP gained. Unfortunately....the Honda engineers were good at making the stock car already!

yeah for similar cost (2-4k) one can probably make lot of power out of other performance-oriented drivetrains (LS cars, 4.6L modular ford, etc.)

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You lost over a second on the R/T. Consistent R/T is key to good times. You leave a second earlier, you arrive a second earlier.
Nah. R/T is never calculated into the final 1/4mi time. You can sit there for 15seconds. R/T only comes in when he does competitive amatuer drag races.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 09:10 AM
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Nah. R/T is never calculated into the final 1/4mi time. You can sit there for 15seconds. R/T only comes in when he does competitive amatuer drag races.


You are 101% right. The compulink calculated after he crossed the line obviously.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 09:12 AM
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You are 101% right. The compulink calculated after he crossed the line obviously.
yeah I used to think that too long time ago and then I was watching youtube vids and you see guys, either heavily modded cars or lightly modded ones...just sitting at a green light and getting their RPMs/etc. just right and then launching like 2-3 seconds at the green light...then I figure it must be a diff time than the final 1/4 mile which makes more sense.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendenacura
It's just hard for me to justify paying a hefty amount for how little it returns for my car, I picked the Sri up from a friend for dirt cheap and I enjoy the sound
Did you say you have the Weapon R brand?
I got that with the car and switched out the filter for a Injen Nano Web filter. From all the reading I did the foam and overall design of the Weapon R is restrictive and someone did tests to prove this. Try swapping that out with a friend's maybe.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 05:58 PM
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Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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^^^even with all the mods still won't able to breaks into 12s mark. Yes TL are fast faster than a civic SI that is.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
Yeah it's a family sedan..but a pretty quick one
Sure it's no drag car
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
...that also beats a Porsche Panamera V6 2014 that has a bigger engine, way more torque and hp. Ask the guy that got beat on the 1/4 mile by a dude in a 10 year old TL how he felt, even though it was by less than 2 car lengths, a win is a win.

The TL is not a race car, it's a sport sedan with a more than satisfying balance of looks, performance, features and reliability.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 10:27 PM
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Not a P85D, but for a 10 yo stock car, not bad

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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
butt butt butt vtec yo!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by truonghthe
^^^even with all the mods still won't able to breaks into 12s mark. Yes TL are fast faster than a civic SI that is.
Eh, not his. My buddy bought a stock CRX SI years ago for $100 from a junk yard and it went 14.9 @ 91 - the only mod was a shop rag as an air filter.

The OPs car is WAY down on power. What was the temp and elevation? If this is in Colorado at 4000 ft, then its understandable, but around sea level, its terrible.
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VSA was enabled or he spun the tires? That's also possible.
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Originally Posted by polobunny
VSA was enabled or he spun the tires? That's also possible.
If VSA was enabled, it should still recover once traction is gained. If it was disabled and he spun, it would still trap higher once it gained traction.

Based on 1/8 trap and 1/4 trap, the car is down on power by at least 30 - 40 hp, or carrying 3 extra people.
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by screaminz28
If VSA was enabled, it should still recover once traction is gained. If it was disabled and he spun, it would still trap higher once it gained traction.

Based on 1/8 trap and 1/4 trap, the car is down on power by at least 30 - 40 hp, or carrying 3 extra people.
Maybe he needs to go to the gym...
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
No one mentioned anything about any car being fast in this thread. OP went to the track and had a good time, came here for some pointers and gets some opinionated crap from you. Besides, "fast" is subjective. A 13-14 second car feels slow to a guy with a C6 Z06 and fast to someone who drives a Corolla, so your post is pretty pointless.
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by screaminz28
If VSA was enabled, it should still recover once traction is gained. If it was disabled and he spun, it would still trap higher once it gained traction.

Based on 1/8 trap and 1/4 trap, the car is down on power by at least 30 - 40 hp, or carrying 3 extra people.
No. Trust me on that one. I've tried running with VSA on. It cuts power heavily in first and second, killing forward momentum. It'll knock off a couple mph every time.
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by P1zzaman
Can we stop pretending that this car is fast? Unless you strap some serious mods on it, it's just a family sedan with a V6
Eh, it's relative. Of course as car guys anything that's over 5seconds to 60 is probably "slow" to us but for a family sedan it has some pep. The base 04 TL when it came out tested a 6.0 run to 60...so not bad at all.

Obviously it's not going to blow the doors off of other sports oriented family sedans: G37, GS460, 5-series, etc.

Originally Posted by anx1300c
No one mentioned anything about any car being fast in this thread. OP went to the track and had a good time, came here for some pointers and gets some opinionated crap from you. Besides, "fast" is subjective. A 13-14 second car feels slow to a guy with a C6 Z06 and fast to someone who drives a Corolla, so your post is pretty pointless.
Agreed. As a guy who came from a 95 accord my base 06 TL is plenty "fast" for me relatively.

Of course as car guys we all know we ain't gonna blow the doors off of "real" sport sedans. Still enjoying what you have is good.
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...that also beats a Porsche Panamera V6 2014 that has a bigger engine, way more torque and hp. Ask the guy that got beat on the 1/4 mile by a dude in a 10 year old TL how he felt, even though it was by less than 2 car lengths, a win is a win.

The TL is not a race car, it's a sport sedan with a more than satisfying balance of looks, performance, features and reliability.
If I was in a Panamera and there was a guy in a ten year old, shitty, auto TL trying to race me, I wouldn't bother trying either.
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Easy boys......let's not off topic here.
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Heres from my experience. I never took it to the strip so i can't offer much advice but i do own a 08 auto base model TL.

I put over 2k in it for exhaust, intake and tuned with hondata flashpro.

End result? Not that impressive. At the time i thought it was quick. That was up until i got a G37 sedan.

Bone stock G37s trap speed is ~100mph at 13.8-14.1 seconds.

Fully bolted and tuned is capable of low 13s.

A fully bolted and tuned auto TL is maybe a 14.5 second car. Its not really worth putting money into unless your a 6 speed.

The gearing is so tall. Overall its not a very quick car unless you drop $10k in it for forced induction.

If i could do it all over i would just focus on aesthetics instead of performance. Waste of money imo
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
A fully bolted and tuned auto TL is maybe a 14.5 second car. Its not really worth putting money into unless your a 6 speed.
Does resetting ECU with gas pedal count as fully bolted and tuned? Because 14.5s is exactly the time I get with an 05 stock AT, if you check my video a few posts up
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