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10-29-2009, 08:23 PM
#241
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My nearest track is 45 minutes away. I pay $20 to run and I'm usually lucky to 4 runs over the course a four hour period. I also need to get there an hour early to get through tech quickly. I've also raced at Heartland Park Topeka which is 1.5 hours away and also at MOKan which is 3 hours away. The excuse that it's too far to drive is a weak one.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
10-29-2009, 08:34 PM
#242
Team Owner
My nearest track is 45 minutes away. I pay $20 to run and I'm usually lucky to 4 runs over the course a four hour period. I also need to get there an hour early to get through tech quickly. I've also raced at Heartland Park Topeka which is 1.5 hours away and also at MOKan which is 3 hours away. The excuse that it's too far to drive is a weak one.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
However, a 50 yr old guy it's assumed that he's mature enough to not do anything stupid. As others brought up, what's the difference in opening it up by yourself or with someone next to you as long as you both know when to shut it down. Are you saying you should never go wide open even by yourself?
10-29-2009, 09:39 PM
#243
Three Wheelin'
Have you ever considered the danger in driving 45 minutes to a track? You might hit a pedestrian whos crossing the road, or it might start to rain terribly and you may lose vision or control and drive into a poll. I think its highly irresponsible to drive 45 minutes for no 'purpose' you should only drive to and from work and go the speed limit. Leisure driving is dangerous and I think it sets a bad example for others on this board. Point being, your being reckless and endangering other's around you by driving 45 - 90 minutes. Try to use your head a little more and remember, your not the only one on the road!
10-29-2009, 11:54 PM
#244
My nearest track is 45 minutes away. I pay $20 to run and I'm usually lucky to 4 runs over the course a four hour period. I also need to get there an hour early to get through tech quickly. I've also raced at Heartland Park Topeka which is 1.5 hours away and also at MOKan which is 3 hours away. The excuse that it's too far to drive is a weak one.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
You're argument is both common and amusing. Most street racers will spend hours combing the streets looking for a race all the while burning through a lot of fuel. Point being the cost and time argument isn't really valid to most anyone that lives in a metro area and has access a track.
10-30-2009, 01:24 AM
#245
Burning Brakes
However, a 50 yr old guy it's assumed that he's mature enough to not do anything stupid. As others brought up, what's the difference in opening it up by yourself or with someone next to you as long as you both know when to shut it down. Are you saying you should never go wide open even by yourself?
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
10-30-2009, 02:27 AM
#246
The difference is he's doing this in traffic and he's racing with another car. A lot more can go wrong when you've got two parties involved. Each driver is putting faith in the other that they can control their car. At the strip, you're separated from the other car by about 20'. On the street, it's around 4 to 6 feet. One little miscue by either or both parties and it can be deadly for them, other drivers, and pedestrians.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
10-30-2009, 03:11 AM
#247
Safety Car
CLEAN RACE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQVJzHW3Qz0
The MazdaSpeed3 had a boner to add a TL to his kill list.
I knew he was going to race with me because I saw his hot-foot driving style from behind me moments before reaching the turn. He laid into it as he made the turn. I did not need to entice him at all. He had plans already to “teach me a lesson”.
Remember that this race is going up an incline. The incline causes the pull to happen in slow motion compare to level ground.
I will say that his car did a respectable job.
DAMN, I was saying "oooh baller, baller, baller!" out loud the entire race!!! LOL
10-30-2009, 01:32 PM
#248
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The difference is he's doing this in traffic and he's racing with another car. A lot more can go wrong when you've got two parties involved. Each driver is putting faith in the other that they can control their car. At the strip, you're separated from the other car by about 20'. On the street, it's around 4 to 6 feet. One little miscue by either or both parties and it can be deadly for them, other drivers, and pedestrians.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
Dave, seriously I wouldn't believe my grandma if she told me she rarely exceeds the speed limit by more then 5mph. You have great points in all your posts but I just don't believe this.
Everyone and I mean everyone speeds by more then 5mph, sometimes they just don't realize it.
And damn Texas is harsh on speeders!! But that's the way it should be in every state. A rich kid in NY smashed his Ferrari killing his passenger back in like 2004. All he got was 3 years in jail and some probation. City of Syracuse was outraged by the judges decision and I bet money had something to do with the decision.
10-30-2009, 01:43 PM
#249
Team Owner
The difference is he's doing this in traffic and he's racing with another car. A lot more can go wrong when you've got two parties involved. Each driver is putting faith in the other that they can control their car. At the strip, you're separated from the other car by about 20'. On the street, it's around 4 to 6 feet. One little miscue by either or both parties and it can be deadly for them, other drivers, and pedestrians.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
Yes, I'm no saint. I do romp on it on occasion when coming down clear entrance ramps, clear exit ramps, or when I might be somewhere remote, but I rarely exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph. There is a big difference, from a legal standpoint, between racing another car and just driving a bit aggressive by yourself when the road is clear. If you're street racing and the other party wrecks and gets killed or you/they kill someone while racing you go to jail for manslaughter, if you're lucky. Some jurisdictions are charging racers with 2nd degree murder if a non-racing party is killed. Welcome to Texas.
However in the city, there are some streets I'll do 5 under the speed limit because they are known areas that people pull out into traffic with no room to spare and get hit.
I feel safer at 120 on the deserted road than in the city doing 5mph under.
You have really good points and I'm the first person to hunt a "racer" down for racing in traffic. I almost went to jail when I watched two Hondas blow a redlight that had been red for 15 seconds and nearly kill my girlfriend that had a green light. If the cops weren't there to pull me off I probably wouldn't be here typing this.
But what Inaccurate is doing is basically getting up to the speed limit quickly and on a freeway at that with no stop lights. I understand you have no control over what the other driver does and that's where it gets scary and that's why I usually turn down races with the younger crowd.
10-30-2009, 01:49 PM
#250
I choose where to speed. There's a road I occasionally take when I have to commute to a field site for work that is flat and straight. You've got a mile of visibility and nothing but sand as far as the eye can see on either side. I rarely pass another car. I will cruise happily at 120mph down that road as the only one in danger is myself and it's 20 miles of boredom.
However in the city, there are some streets I'll do 5 under the speed limit because they are known areas that people pull out into traffic with no room to spare and get hit.
I feel safer at 120 on the deserted road than in the city doing 5mph under.
You have really good points and I'm the first person to hunt a "racer" down for racing in traffic. I almost went to jail when I watched two Hondas blow a redlight that had been red for 15 seconds and nearly kill my girlfriend that had a green light. If the cops weren't there to pull me off I probably wouldn't be here typing this.
But what Inaccurate is doing is basically getting up to the speed limit quickly and on a freeway at that with no stop lights. I understand you have no control over what the other driver does and that's where it gets scary and that's why I usually turn down races with the younger crowd.
However in the city, there are some streets I'll do 5 under the speed limit because they are known areas that people pull out into traffic with no room to spare and get hit.
I feel safer at 120 on the deserted road than in the city doing 5mph under.
You have really good points and I'm the first person to hunt a "racer" down for racing in traffic. I almost went to jail when I watched two Hondas blow a redlight that had been red for 15 seconds and nearly kill my girlfriend that had a green light. If the cops weren't there to pull me off I probably wouldn't be here typing this.
But what Inaccurate is doing is basically getting up to the speed limit quickly and on a freeway at that with no stop lights. I understand you have no control over what the other driver does and that's where it gets scary and that's why I usually turn down races with the younger crowd.
10-30-2009, 02:07 PM
#251
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