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Old 03-02-2006, 03:11 PM
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TL 6sp stock vs. 99 Grand Prix GTP w/ intake

My buddy has a '99 Grand Prix GTP w/ cai only ... He has told me repeatedly that I was going to get owned... I dont know much about the GTP at all. my car, a '05 TL 6sp should atleast keep up, no?
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Originally Posted by Mitsucar2000
My buddy has a '99 Grand Prix GTP w/ cai only ... He has told me repeatedly that I was going to get owned... I dont know much about the GTP at all. my car, a '05 TL 6sp should atleast keep up, no?
With just an intake should be a pretty interesting race. I think that it will be very close if you get good traction and can drive. I honestly dont know if you can win. those things can be pretty quick. I think once he gets a upgraded pulley and an aftermarket computer then he will beat you by a few car lengths. but know I think you may have a fighting chance. BTW he owns a PONTIAC, I cant say what stands for to me but I think you get the hint.
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A 1999 GTP.. please... Destroy him...

Car-Stats.com Report for 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Obtained from MT December, 1999
0-60: 6.8 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 15.1
1/4 Speed: 91


http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Gra...slip-5903.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Gra...slip-1575.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Gra...eslip-690.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Gra...slip-1299.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Gra...slip-4913.html

This last time slip is a 99 GTP with upgraded Midpipe, Upgraded Pulley, Reprogrammed Computer and upgraded spark plugs... I guess you had to list the plugs.. lol.. He is getting a very impressive 13.859....... However in another slip a guy with upgraded boost pressure and pulleys is only hitting 14.5. However more crutial is the first link, it is to a Stock 00GTP hitting a 15.569.... Which you would comfortably walk all over in your 6mt...

Take a quick look at all of the time slips provided... you should feel confident you will comfortably beat him in your 6mt.. He shouldn't stand a chance if he only has an intake....


Tell him you'll walk him like a dog in the 1/4 mile.... that should get him to throw a little friendly money on the race.. Beers on him tonight..
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6mt with Competch exhaust CAI and drag radials......14.110
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-TL-Timeslip-5918.html

Stock 6mt TL.......14.3
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-TL-Timeslip-3220.html

Stock 5mt TL.......14.78
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-TL-Timeslip-3161.html

Stock Auto TL.........14.5
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-TL-Timeslip-7284.html
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Originally Posted by Mitsucar2000
My buddy has a '99 Grand Prix GTP w/ cai only ... He has told me repeatedly that I was going to get owned... I dont know much about the GTP at all. my car, a '05 TL 6sp should atleast keep up, no?
Dude in the GTP talks too much. The race will only be interesting if he has a supercharger. If not, you'll blow his doors off.
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Originally Posted by Russdaddy
Dude in the GTP talks too much. The race will only be interesting if he has a supercharger. If not, you'll blow his doors off.

Grand Prix GTP = Supercharger

ClubGP.com member 1/4 mile times
Old 03-03-2006, 11:50 AM
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I beat a 4-dr GTP with my '99 TL last summer....
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I wish people would stop posting threads about arguments they have with friends, co-workers, etc. about which car is faster.

As lame as 'kill' stories about highway encounters can be, they are worlds better than threads about people afraid to answer their own question.

If you want to know which car is faster, you know what to do. It doesn't involve the internet or a computer keyboard.
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Originally Posted by brahtw8
I wish people would stop posting threads about arguments they have with friends, co-workers, etc. about which car is faster.

As lame as 'kill' stories about highway encounters can be, they are worlds better than threads about people afraid to answer their own question.

If you want to know which car is faster, you know what to do. It doesn't involve the internet or a computer keyboard.

why? is it wasting your time? don't read it then...thats what people do here on the R&C...talk about racing...matchups...peoples opinions on cars...other peoples experiences... its a discussion forum

I know we are all "lame" with our kill stories.... but your a
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Originally Posted by THE TURBONATOR
why? is it wasting your time? don't read it then...thats what people do here on the R&C...talk about racing...matchups...peoples opinions on cars...other peoples experiences... its a discussion forum

I know we are all "lame" with our kill stories.... but your a

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Grand Prix GTP = Supercharger

ClubGP.com member 1/4 mile times

Yes we all know there is a ton of Modding potential for the GTP.. but it is still a garbage North-American sedan... Making it fit into peoples budjet much easier than a Heavily modded Japaneese car ie. an IS300 with aftermarket twin turbo and a management system.. which coincidently would show times similar to many highly modded GTPs... Here's one pulling 11.9s...

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lexus-IS300-Timeslip-4491.html
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You out trap him bone stock by up to 7 mph. That intake is worth very little.

The key will be down low because they are easier to launch. Race him from a roll and you'll beat the piss out of him if you can drive. Race from a stop and you need to get off the line healthily and make sure he doesnt shut down at 60.
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A pulleyed GTP with air intake can squeak into the 13's.

if he just has an airbox I would say you will put a few cars on him, my friend runs 14.6 to 14.7 in his with just an airbox.
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they can be fast, even stock they pull pretty hard. I was on the highway a few nights ago and I was stepping on it and this black GTP wasn't getting any smaller. He didn't catch up, but I could pull farther away either.
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I might have to call out my boy in his GTP , mf already beat me in his M35X
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Stock GTP's and ones with i/e are from my experience easily beat. My pops who still loves to race has a '00 GTP w/intake, can jump me off the line by a quarter car but when I hit 2nd I start pulling away, 3rd gear it just gets worse for him. With a 6spd you should have no problem whatsoever as long as you don't smoke you tires off the line. Better yet do a highway run they are even worse there.
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With a 6mt TL you should be able to pull on a stock GTP with intake, shouldnt be a problem. I know, I have a GTP, but mines not stock. The problem with the GTP is getting off the line with 285lbstq stock down low. With intake, pulley, rockers, 3"DP, and intercooler mid-high 13's are easily obtained, I know because this is my setup. I just wish my CLS-6 with AEM intake felt like it moved
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
A pulleyed GTP with air intake can squeak into the 13's.

I'm calling on that one..



1998 GTP
Mods: Adjusted boost pressure, Midpipe, Intake, Exhaust, Pulleys, Upgraded computer and "non-stock"" tires..
Time: 13.94



2004 GTP
Mods: Intake, Exhaust, Pulleys, Gears
Time: 13.95



2000 GTP
Mods: Pulleys, K&N Air filter in Stock Air Box, running on 96octane gas
Time: 14.5



1998 GTP
Mods: Pulleys, Intake, Drag Radials.
Time: 14.305



2004 GTP
Mods: Pulleys
Time: 14.72
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