took the tl for a spin today and i was driving in L
it seemed to pull as hard as if not harder than if the car was in tiptronic
which makes me question if theres any point at all of using tiptronic

 

Just for the fun I guess........

 

Its like Microsoft windows....several different ways to accomplish the same thing basically.

 

Why would you drive the car in L? Its just first gear..

 

the computer controls the AT shifting
When you use SS it simply sending a signal that you request a shift- computations are made and if ok- shift is allowed
There is no secret power reserve that kicks in with its use, other than keeping the revs up in vtec rpm and Most important for performance driving--
being in the right gear to exit the corner

Warning- do not use the transmission to slow down (mountain downhill exception)
That puts major heat- the killer -in it, and excess wear on the clutches
Cheaper and Smarter to use the Brakes to slow and stop the car, and the transmission to accellerate it

 

tell that to honda about their grade logic. my tl always downshifts automatically when im slowing down for a light

 

I believe it's supposed to downshift in automatic mode. It's weird to get used to the blip in the throttle while hitting the brake. In tiptronic mode, it will hold 5th gear until around 35mph then shift and stay in 4th until stopped.

What is odd is that in tiptronic mode, you can be accelerating in 5th going up a hill and the car will shift into 4th automatically even though it still shows 5th on the display. Dang computers. Odd huh?

 

i know that. its called grade logic. im just saying, if the computer can downshift in auto with no problem, then i think you can downshift in SS mode with no problem

 

Yeah. Sure you can.

The difference though is that when the computer does the downshift, you end up at fairly low RPMs, say ~3000, maybe a good bit less.

BUT when *you* down shift, you can end up at higher RPM's, say ~4,000, maybe higher.

Taking a car from 5th gear at 1800 rpm to 3rd at ~4000 rpm is a LOT of work for the transmission; Especially if you do it habitually to slow the car down.

You're much better off braking first to scrub speed, then downshift when the resulting RPM will be lower and less stressful (which is what the car does when left to it's own programming).


(Not sure about the precise RPM's here, but hopefully the general idea is clear).

 

Now lets say I'm in like 2nd or 3rd gear or something in the tiptronic mode, and I want to move into normal mode, is it safe to just pop the shifter over, or should I come to a complete stop and do it?

 

you can pop it into auto mode at any time or vice versa without doing any damage. there's no actual physical change happening in the transmission when you do this; the car will stay in the same gear that it was in before you switched i.e. if you were in 5th gear in D, you'll be in 5th gear in M, or the other way around.

 

You can move the lever whenever you want, as much as you want.


BTW/FWIW - "Tiptronic" is Porsche and/or VW. Acura is "SportShift".

 

When i use tiptronic, i blip the throttle about 500rpm then shift down, thats rev matching, and it's smooth compared to slowing down and downshifting.

 

 

What he said.

 

^

 

lol would all of you please provide your vin numbers so I know which cars not to buy.......thank you for your cooperation.......

 

Y are y guys laughing, it's true even the dealer told me, its kinda like rev matching.

 

you dont rev match in an auto

 

yeah, but considering that the car blips the throttle for you when you downshift, rev matching is kinda pointless

 

I am F'kn dying here.





What .... .... what .... what else did the dealer tell you?

 

Ya know, I went and looked it up yesterday (www.hondanews.com) because I *knew* the TL-S did that but wasn't sure about the base.

I couldn't find anything in Specs or Features or Technical that said the Base did it; the Type-S, yes; the Base, nothing.

 

^^ I think they told him to get out of the car and walk to the nearest bus stop and ride the bus from now on......

Get on the bus and teach the bus driver about this so called rev matching.......

 

That sounds really interesting. Would this work on a 2000 TL as well? How would I go about doing that on my TL?