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Dave Mungenast (St. Louis) is asking $25.995 for this with 61,912 mi. -
Since its establishment as an independent company in 1986, CARFAX has collected the largest vehicle history database in North America. This database currently includes over 4 billion records from thousands of public and private sources.
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.
Good News -- Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
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The story of this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This sedan has had 1 owner in Missouri. It was originally registered by the owner for personal use.
It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 27,375 miles per year, which is higher than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 02/21/2006, was 61,912 miles.
It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.
Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check No Severe Accidents Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK
Number of Owners 1 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Originally Registered as a Personal Vehicle
5. RECALL CHECK
ACURA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 4 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
Year/Make/Model: 2004 ACURA TL
Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual air bags front and sides/active (manual) belts with automatic passenger sensor
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
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Total Loss Check:
GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of the following severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title Flood Damage Title
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss
Other Accident Indicators:
This 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.
No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
No Frame Damage Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported
CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 24.Feb.2006 03:12:45. New data will result in a change to this report.
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Truth-In-Mileage Check:
GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.
Odometer Rollback Check:
CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.
Mileage Consistency Check:
CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599).
Date: Mileage:
04/07/2004 18
02/21/2006 61,912
Average miles driven per year 27,375 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.
CARFAX Help Center
GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that a manufacturer buyback was reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
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Ownership History:
CARFAX estimates that this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) had 1 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.
Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 04/07/2004 Missouri
Types of Owners:
This 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) was checked for 8 types of registrations.
Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported
CARFAX Help Center
ACURA does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
Go to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for a list of all the safety recalls issued for the 2004 ACURA TL. You can also contact an authorized dealership or ACURA at 1-800-999-1009 to find out if this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) still has recalls that require repair.
CARFAX Help Center
CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 4 record(s) for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599).
Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:
11/21/2003 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Registered as
personal vehicle
04/07/2004 18 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Title #PD530021
Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
04/08/2004 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Title #PD530021
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported
02/21/2006 61,912 Acura Certified Dealer
Offered for sale as an Acura Certified Vehicle
Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:
First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.
Personal Use
Vehicle was registered by the owner for private or personal use.
CARFAX Help Center
CARFAX
BUYBACK GUARANTEE
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles and were not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
Severe Damage: Odometer Problems: Lemon History:
Salvage/Junk
Rebuilt/Reconstructed
Dismantled
Fire/Flood/Hail
Canadian Total Loss
Exceeds Mechanical Limits
Not Actual Mileage
Manufacturer Buyback
Your CARFAX Buyback Coverage:
Vehicle: Transferable Coverage: Activation:
2004 ACURA TL
19UUA66294A010599 02/24/2006 - 02/24/2007 REQUIRED --
ACTIVATE TODAY!
Terms and Conditions Apply
CARFAX agrees to buy this vehicle back from the holder of this Vehicle History Report if the report indicates the vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee and a Branded Title, as fully defined in the Terms and Conditions, actually exists for this vehicle. YOU MUST REGISTER TO ACTIVATE THIS FREE GUARANTEE (www.carfax.com) in order to be eligible for payment. View Terms and Conditions (www.carfax.com/guarantee/hctermsanddef.cfm).
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Since its establishment as an independent company in 1986, CARFAX has collected the largest vehicle history database in North America. This database currently includes over 4 billion records from thousands of public and private sources.
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.
Good News -- Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
You must register at www.CARFAX.com to activate this free guarantee!
CARFAX Talking CarTM
The story of this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This sedan has had 1 owner in Missouri. It was originally registered by the owner for personal use.
It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 27,375 miles per year, which is higher than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 02/21/2006, was 61,912 miles.
It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended warranty with your dealer.
Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.
Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check No Severe Accidents Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK
Number of Owners 1 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Originally Registered as a Personal Vehicle
5. RECALL CHECK
ACURA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 4 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
Year/Make/Model: 2004 ACURA TL
Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual air bags front and sides/active (manual) belts with automatic passenger sensor
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
Check the CARFAX Report for every vehicle before you buy!
CARFAX is America's most trusted source of vehicle history information.
Total Loss Check:
GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of the following severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title Flood Damage Title
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss
Other Accident Indicators:
This 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.
No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
No Frame Damage Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported
CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 24.Feb.2006 03:12:45. New data will result in a change to this report.
CARFAX Help Center
Truth-In-Mileage Check:
GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.
Odometer Rollback Check:
CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.
Mileage Consistency Check:
CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599).
Date: Mileage:
04/07/2004 18
02/21/2006 61,912
Average miles driven per year 27,375 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.
CARFAX Help Center
GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599). If you find that a manufacturer buyback was reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!
CARFAX Help Center
Ownership History:
CARFAX estimates that this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) had 1 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.
Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 04/07/2004 Missouri
Types of Owners:
This 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) was checked for 8 types of registrations.
Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported
CARFAX Help Center
ACURA does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
Go to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for a list of all the safety recalls issued for the 2004 ACURA TL. You can also contact an authorized dealership or ACURA at 1-800-999-1009 to find out if this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599) still has recalls that require repair.
CARFAX Help Center
CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 4 record(s) for this 2004 ACURA TL (19UUA66294A010599).
Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:
11/21/2003 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Registered as
personal vehicle
04/07/2004 18 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Title #PD530021
Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
04/08/2004 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Saint Louis, MO
Title #PD530021
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported
02/21/2006 61,912 Acura Certified Dealer
Offered for sale as an Acura Certified Vehicle
Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:
First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.
Personal Use
Vehicle was registered by the owner for private or personal use.
CARFAX Help Center
CARFAX
BUYBACK GUARANTEE
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles and were not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
Severe Damage: Odometer Problems: Lemon History:
Salvage/Junk
Rebuilt/Reconstructed
Dismantled
Fire/Flood/Hail
Canadian Total Loss
Exceeds Mechanical Limits
Not Actual Mileage
Manufacturer Buyback
Your CARFAX Buyback Coverage:
Vehicle: Transferable Coverage: Activation:
2004 ACURA TL
19UUA66294A010599 02/24/2006 - 02/24/2007 REQUIRED --
ACTIVATE TODAY!
Terms and Conditions Apply
CARFAX agrees to buy this vehicle back from the holder of this Vehicle History Report if the report indicates the vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee and a Branded Title, as fully defined in the Terms and Conditions, actually exists for this vehicle. YOU MUST REGISTER TO ACTIVATE THIS FREE GUARANTEE (www.carfax.com) in order to be eligible for payment. View Terms and Conditions (www.carfax.com/guarantee/hctermsanddef.cfm).
CARFAX Disclaimer:
CARFAX DEPENDS ON ITS SOURCES FOR THE ACCURACY AND RELIABILITY OF ITS INFORMATION. THEREFORE, NO RESPONSIBILITY IS ASSUMED BY CARFAX OR ITS AGENTS FOR ERRORS OR OMISSIONS IN THIS REPORT. CARFAX FURTHER EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. CARFAX®
Need help? Please visit our Help Center at www.carfax.com.
© 2006 CARFAX, Inc., an R.L. Polk & Co. company. All rights reserved. Patents pending. 24.Feb.2006 03:12:45
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your link isnt working.. here it is: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=15
glad to see the TL is holding its value
maybe because its redondo red
glad to see the TL is holding its value
maybe because its redondo red
#4
Well, considering it's at a dealership (they're ready to give you a discount) and that it's acura certified (extended warranty), it's not outrageous.
And maybe it has a few extra goodies.
What were you expecting the price to be??
And maybe it has a few extra goodies.
What were you expecting the price to be??
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Damn, I could almost MAKE money on my '04 with 45k miles based on what I've been seeing here the last few weeks on the used market! Too bad I'm not selling...
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I was not expecting to see an '04 with 61,xxx going for $25k.
I could see 25 - 35k miles at the most. For another, $7k, one could buy new or at least an '05. I feel that they are earning the title of 'stealership'.
I could see 25 - 35k miles at the most. For another, $7k, one could buy new or at least an '05. I feel that they are earning the title of 'stealership'.
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#9
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they probably gave the guy who traded it in no more than $20,000. They are hoping somebody comes in and buy it at that price no questions asked... $5000 profit on a 2 year old car with 4 years worth of mileage. I hope they know that they are not going to get $25k for it. More importantly I hope they don't pull the common stealership tricks like "this is the lowest we can go", "it's on sale only today", "you can't find this color combo anywhere in the Midwest"
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
they probably gave the guy who traded it in no more than $20,000. They are hoping somebody comes in and buy it at that price no questions asked... $5000 profit on a 2 year old car with 4 years worth of mileage. I hope they know that they are not going to get $25k for it. More importantly I hope they don't pull the common stealership tricks like "this is the lowest we can go", "it's on sale only today", "you can't find this color combo anywhere in the Midwest"
#11
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
That's so 80's tactics. Anybody who falls for that these days deserve to get ripped off for not doing their research.
Infiniti tried to get me with that same crap saying that the black on black G35 navi 6MT they just got was the only one in the entire South East. I didn't bite. He then called me back a few weeks later telling me if I come back, he won't be there because he got fired.
Out of all the dealerships, I've been to, Gwinnett Place Ford was the worse in trying those tactics, thankfully I never bought from them.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Anybody who falls for that these days deserve to get ripped off for not doing their research.
the dealer owns the vehicle and can ask whatever price they want for it, same as you if you want to sell your car. if it is too much, then they wont sell it, same as you.
I bought new because used TL's were rare and overpriced in my opinion. I am glad the used ones are alot of money because that will help with the value of mine...
it's too bad that so many people think they should have protection from themselves. for them, it's always somebody else that should be responsible for their poor decisions. it's what keeps attorneys in their beemers...hehe
#13
I feel like i made a good deal, but i settled.. I LOVE the pearl white TL with black interior, but I ended up getting the anthricite. I like it but i wanted the deal. I made out like a banditt on mine though so i guess its ok..
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Holey thread resurrection Batman!
Guys, this thread is nearly 2 YEARS old... If you paid over $20K for a 2004 certified, you probably paid too much. My NBP 2004 with 48K miles & NAVI is probably worth only $18K right now...
Guys, this thread is nearly 2 YEARS old... If you paid over $20K for a 2004 certified, you probably paid too much. My NBP 2004 with 48K miles & NAVI is probably worth only $18K right now...
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