I've been very limited in my choices for a 6MT, as I've posted before. I've also limited myself because I hate the wood trim. Well, I discovered today in what limited quantities the trim is installed in, and that I could remove it. Woo!

So, I've spotted a RRP/Parchment - 2005, 33k, for $19995. Certified, as well. Not a color I've seen a lot of.

Is this something I should jump on? Those are some really low miles.

 

The miles are low, but the price is high. I'd say about 3-3.5k off

 

I don't think the price is that high. I would maybe try to get it for $18,500-$19,000. Does it have navigation? The 33k miles would be a big selling point to me considering it is 4 years old.

 

Yes, it does have navi. I would probably go in and offer around $18k to start, and see where we go. I'll have my own financing, and probably no trade (I could, if I got a better deal).

I was thinking the same thing, based on prices of other cars I've seen here. Sure, I could get an ASM 05 for $15k, but it also has 20k more miles. And it's not certified, so no warranty.

 

That's the price for an 06. 05 should be lower by 3.5k less, like the 2nd poster said. But then again, if ur selection is limited on the 6 speeds, how much is that happieness worth it to you? 3.5k? That's what it all comes down to. People who are saying its not high most likely own a 05, but that the truth on the prices I know, trust me, I'm heavily researching cars right now.

 

Actually, KBB and Edmunds both say that it should be around in the $22.5k range. Prices here must be higher in general than in other places, because autos are about the same price.

 

KBB and Edmunds doesn't consider the ailing economy and the new generation of TL that is out.

 

You should be able to lower that price by at least $2000.

 

Cochese, I think the guys are right. Try talking down the price. Everyone is hurting to sell cars, whether it's a dealer or an individual.





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I'm just wondering where people are getting these prices from. If they are advertised prices, I need to start looking in their areas. Because these aren't the prices that they are being advertised for here.

I got pre-approved tonight for a loan and a decent rate, now I just need to find the right car.

It looks like the RRP is gone. I can still go for the higher mileage one, I just have to decide if saving nearly $5k is worth the extra six months or so of mileage and no warranty. The only other option I have is to go out of state, and that starts to get cost-prohibitive.

Looks like I'll post something in the Black Market and see if I can get a hit.

 

^ It's the same as selling anything else. A seller always starts with a high price figuring that a buyer will come along who will negotiate it lower to the appropriate amount. Never feel intimidated to make an offer; the worse you will hear is "no". Big deal. I walked out of 3 dealers (one was over 6 hours away in Brooklyn) before I bought mine. You hold the money = you hold the power. GL.

 

I'm not sure if you're a first time buyer, but Car Dealerships are the most crooked places ever along with Car mechanics. They know most people have a busy lifestyle and/or have money so they assume that you don't know knowledge about cars or don't care how much you spend. You always research your car even if it takes you months to figure it out. You rather wait months than get fooled into buying a car that is too much and/or getting a car that has a problem and you just don't know. Take your time, its better than losing over 10k on something, assuming that's not pocket change to you. Good luck in your purchase, but one thing is for sure. You chose the right car! 04 goes for 14-17k 05 goes for 15-18k 06 goes for 16-21k. They all just depend on how good the car was maintained, how many miles, title, aftermarket options (may lower price), accidents, year, etc... Note: Just because KBB and/or Edmunds say 1 price doesn't mean you should aim for that price. If KBB says 20k I would go 3-4k lower. Than start from there. One thing I learned always talk about OTD price (Out the Door) and just say he says 20k you say 20k out the door something like that

 

good luck with your search...check out autotrader.com. You might need to pay an extra few $'s for a 6MT because of their lower production #'s as compared to the auto.

 

It might be a bit far for you, but just for comparison. Navy federal credit union has one from off-lease in southern CA for $19.9K. Road trip? I was suppose to get this one but I was so excited to get one, I got an 05 AM - 6mt - navi. Should have waited.

http://www.navyfcu.org/rates/locations-frameset.html

Got it for 17k last November. 51k miles. Tried to lower the price but the dealer knows his stuff. BTW, same dealer is selling a 05 SSM non-navi here in stafford, VA. 15k.

Another way to get to site is:
www.navyfcu.org
--- near the middle of the page under LENDING click auto
--- next window, scroll down and bottom right you will see info on off-lease vehicle with a picture of an Audi TT, click on location.
--- the TL is under Southern Cal.

NOTE: by no means that I'm affiliated and/or endorsing the cars there. Just info.

GOOD LUCK!

 

20k out the door yes... 20k + tax and fees no

 

i got a buddy in ATL who is selling his tl. VERY well maintained. VERY clean. Very good guy. he is actually a member here, he upgraded to an RS4.

 

If it's the one I think you're talking about, that's way too modified for me. While I like what he's done, I can't justify taking out a loan for that car when I need it to run 20k miles a year.

If it's not the blown TL I'm thinking of, let me know.

 

agree.. you shouldn't be paying more than $16k + TTL max for that TL.. If you do make a bid.. say your offer is firm no negotiation.. then give the dealer your number.. they'll call back.

If the dealer's an asshole and tries to pressure you.. and says b.s. like we're not making a dime off this one.. we're losing money on it as is.. blah.. tell him tough shit, take it or leave it.

 

Again, though, what's the basis for a statement like that? I'm not exactly questioning it, but if there's some sort of indication that these are what they are going for, I'd sure like to see it. I understand the seller is trying to make a profit, but I don't see a dealer coming down 20%, even in a market like this.

I'd love to see some examples.

As it is, I believe that particular car is gone. Right now, there are only two viable options in Atlanta - a 05 with 57k for $15k, and a 06 with 55k for $19k. I've pulled reports on both cars, and am going to look at them tomorrow with negotiating power in mind. I'd be more tempted if the 05 was around $13-13.5k, and the 06 was $15.5-16k. Both have higher miles than I wanted, but I'm going to put so many on it anyways.

 

You'd be surprised what you can get done with a positive attitude and stubborn overture. But hey, if you want to line someone else's pockets - be my guest . Send money to me first.

 

lol..

 

It's been an extremely long time since I even bought a car. The last one I bought, I got a decent deal on - in 2001. I'm used to seeing cars go for about what they are valued at - not so much below like people are saying here.

I'm at an advantage because of the market, I have my own financing, and I don't need to trade. But they are at an advantage because I'm very specific on my needs: has to have navi, and absolutely has to be a stick. That makes me extremely limited in my options. Even in other markets, the pickings are slim.

 

There's plenty of examples of '04s & '05s going for half that dollar amount on the forum.. the lowest I've seen is a trade-in car sold at trade-in cost.. I think it was an '04 with 40k miles at a purchase price of $9k.. I bought my '04 for $12k last year. A female AZ member just bought an '07 Type-S with like 30k miles on it for $22.9k - not salvaged..

Like Luda said.. it's your money.. if you like sending someones kid to college on your dime or making their house payment for the next X months.. go for it. You can take our advice or not.. but don't post a thread asking for advice when it seems like you're going to pull the trigger on a '05 TL for $20k no matter what we say.. JM2CW.

 

As I said, I've not seen these examples everyone is talking about.

I want to say the ratio of auto to stick cars is like 9 to 1. That puts me at a huge disadvantage. I'm also at a disadvantage that most of the cars I see are 500+ miles away. I don't know why that is. Unfortunately, I can't risk a plane ticket to possibly buy a car.

The best price I can find right now is a '05 @ $15k. If I can get them down into the 13s, I think that would be a good deal. Thoughts on that?

 

Buying the car you want takes time.. it took me 6 mos to pull the trigger on my TL. You're in a specific market so you can expect to pay a small premium.. but not a lot and you will also expect to be on the lookout for a while. You have to be patient.. it'll be worth it.. trust me.

If you can get that '05 6sp @ 57k for anything less than $15k would be good. If you got it for $13k that would be excellent. I would be very wary of independent car dealers.. they buy auto auction cars and sell cars that have unreported accidents. Check all the fluids, run them through the eyes & nose. If any of them aren't in good / excellent condition.. pass.. otherwise you can bank on a new clutch..

Take a small fridge magnet and touch the body around the door, fenders & rear quarter panel. Open the trunk and remove the inside and top liner to check for repair or damage. Get under the car and check for leaks from the cases and check for any damage, check for damage on the front rash guard. Check the rotors, brake pads & CV boots. Take it for at least 15-30 min drive and make sure that clutch engages firmly.. any signs of slipping.. say no way.. and don't trust any warranty other than American Honda.. Period. There are some okay aftermarket warranties / service contracts but not many and all have had complaints.

 

I think $20k is OK, considering the miles, manual, Nav and especially Acura Certified. Thats worth $2k. If the body and interior is almost mint its a fair deal. Good luck finding many more Acura Certified manuals. I got lucky.




Mine is an 06 and I paid $25k with 28,500 miles. Its mint.

 

i dont think the price is that high either but u should still try to negotiate .. i got mine for like 19500, and it had 26,000 and its an 05 with navi so maybe try to get like a thousand off .. i got pretty lucky with my car now that i am thinking about it ...

 

Yeah, all the cars around here from private dealers are from auctions. The particular one I'm looking at (the 05) was reported to be in a front-end accident, but no frame damage. I have a mechanic near my house that I'd trust to check it out, especially if I can get under there too. If they won't let me take it to my guy, I know something's up.

I've been actively looking for around two months, and unfortunately the amount of cars is going down. I'd be more than willing to wait a little while, but I honestly don't know if that's an option with the amount of cars around.

I actually like the '06 better, but I'm not sure I could get them down around $16k.

 

This is retarded.. I'm sorry to those who overpaid.. Here is the definitive source.. the Black Book.

 

Like Kevin Garnett: "Anything is Possible!" lol.. Just keep at it.. you'll be posting up pics of your new ride soon enough.

 

I think a warranty is well worth $1000.

 

A certified American Honda Extended Warranty is priceless.. only very good - excellent condition TL's with fairly low miles (~50k miles) will qualify.

 

The Black book does not include the Acura Certification which adds a long Factory warranty and a 150 point check. My car has $1k worth of fixes such as new battery, front BBK job, new armrest, and some other minor things.

Thats worth $2k. $20k is fair. Like I said b4, good luck finding a low mileage manual, nav TL Certified by Acura Corp.

 

The TL's the OP is looking for will be fairly low miles so they'll still have some warranty on them. The only thing in my mind that the warranty is good for is the transmission, engine, A/C..

Battery, armrest, brakes.. in my garage repair handbook is about $400.. you still need a lot more to go to get your money's worth. The warranty gives you peace of mind.

But beware.. Acura has turned down jobs on M/T / clutches claiming owner fault on factory warranty covered TL's. Leaving the owner to shelve out ~$2k to repair.. but hey.. if you engine skips timing and you need a valve job / new heads or you need a new head gasket or a/c compressor / heater core.. the warranty should take care of those big dollar jobs.. no problem.. but I hardly see related threads on those topics.

 

price is a bit high imo..... but yea 6MT is impossible to find..

i gave up and got an auto

plus you gotta check for 3rd gear slippage.

 

I bought my 05 6MT w/Navi SSM Certified from Nalley Acura in Marietta, GA. They were asking $18900 with 51K on the dial. I bought it for $17500. Most acura dealers know what they're holding when they get a 6MT w/ Navi so I wouldn't say with that price being low miles way off base. I would have offered them asking price but out the door. It would have been a steal at that.

To confirm the Certification process is worth about $1K on itself PLUS makes getting a wrap around warranty from Acura possible.

 

:lol: I think that was one of the ones I was looking at. They haven't gotten any more in, either. Jackson confirmed it sold the RRP I was looking at. Damn.

Oh well, I'm going to look at two today, and I might see if Jackson will install navi in the other 6MT they have.

 

That would cost them thousands.. well it would cost you thousands.. lol.. converting non-navi to navi is not worth it.. find one with navi if that's what you want.

and on another note.. being patient will pay off otherwise you'll spend more than you should.. then the following weeks you'll see TL's with the options you want sell for much less. Had that happen to me when I bought the MDX.. was in a tight situation.. just moved from overseas and was only in the market for an X.. time was my constraint and I paid for it..

 

its back to stock now. except for the ride height. im sure its come down in price a whole lot. but its good to know that he had all the service done to it. i mean, the thing runs great

 

use autocheck and not carfax. carfax is BS