Sythetic Oil???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:20 PM
  #1  
Xiomaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
1st 3g Turbo TL-S
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 853
Likes: 14
Sythetic Oil???

Didn't know where to post this so i'll stick it here.

I was thinking about switching over to synthetic Oil. Anyone done this yet? Is there any special prep u have to do or just through some in on the next change?

Leme know fellas
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:31 PM
  #2  
lemonade's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 1
Absolutely no special preparation is needed, and also after switching to synthetic, you can switch back to non-synthetic at any time.
Just curious, why you want to make the switch?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:38 PM
  #3  
Xiomaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
1st 3g Turbo TL-S
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 853
Likes: 14
couple friends have it in their cars and said they really noticed a diff. in engine smoothness. They say it just seems to run nicer? I duno, i just thought why the hell not!
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 02:55 PM
  #4  
JwongTLS's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,140
Likes: 2
Mobil 1 full synthetic w/ Mobil 1 filter the way to go!

Runs great!
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:02 PM
  #5  
1fsthatch's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 953
Likes: 0
From: QUEENS NYC
mobil 1 syn and OEM filter is the way to go actually
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:18 PM
  #6  
Rob RiL's Avatar
Unregistered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 369
Likes: 3
From: 504, Louisiana
My first and only change was to Royal Purple 5w20 with a Royal Purple filter. Everything runs smooth but it did before too so I don't see a difference. I hope all the hype was right about it giving me a longer interval for changing it.

...which to elaborate a bit on, I've went almost 2000 miles since the change and MID is just at 70%. So I still have to wait till 15% to see the actual mileage.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:20 PM
  #7  
TheChamp531's Avatar
Chapter Leader (San Antonio)
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,022
Likes: 437
From: Houston, Texas
There has to be a million threads about engine oil. Anyways yes most people on these forums use synthetic, and most people use mobil 1 extended performance synthetic. And no don't use oem filter with synthetic
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:32 PM
  #8  
Timeless's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 500
Likes: 0
From: Long Island
This article was posted a while back and it was pretty interesting for those who haven't seen it: http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

As for synthetic...the switch can't hurt. I switched to RP 5-30 after exclusively running mobil 1 after reading that article. As of lately, I have switched to Pennzoil Platinum 5-30 because RP isn't available locally any more...I swear the car runs smoother. It boggles my mind, but it does.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:38 PM
  #9  
JwongTLS's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,140
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by 1fsthatch
mobil 1 syn and OEM filter is the way to go actually

Shouldnt mix oil and filter..the filter is not ganna work its best
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:19 PM
  #10  
WRXtranceformed's Avatar
#ForcedInductionFamily
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 846
Likes: 5
Amsoil > *
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:36 PM
  #11  
Xiomaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
1st 3g Turbo TL-S
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 853
Likes: 14
hmm, that was an interesting article. I've heard Royal is the best from lots of ppl, but i know redline makes good stuff too. So penzoil? or Royal if it's available.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:44 PM
  #12  
TLAdvanced's Avatar
The Kinetics of Bleu
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 5
From: Ocala, Fl
Originally Posted by JwongTLS
Shouldnt mix oil and filter..the filter is not ganna work its best
WTF are you talking about? Where did you hear that BS?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:08 PM
  #13  
ankur914's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 926
Likes: 2
From: Chicagoland
Originally Posted by JwongTLS
Shouldnt mix oil and filter..the filter is not ganna work its best
errr, ?

Thats a false statement on all sorts of epic proportions.

Member favorites for synthetic on this forum, include but not limited to...

1. Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic
2. Pennzoil Platinum
3. Amsoil
4. Castrol Syntec
5. Royal Purple
6. Whatever is cheapest/on sale...as long as its synthetic.

Member favorites for filter on this forum, include but not limited to...
1. Mobil 1 M1-110
2. Mobil 1 M1-104
3. Honda S2000 filter made by Filtech
4. Amsoil Ea013
5. K&N
6. Purolator PureOne
7. Anything that is NOT Fram (this includes oem filter, as it is Fram)

Basically, OP, youre going to find many opinions. The fact of the matter is, today's oil is top notch whether it be mineral or synthetic. To answer your question...No prep is required for changing over to synthetic. Based on your readings, make a decision youre comfortable with, because at the end of the day, with proper maintenance, you'll be fine with which ever oil you pick.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:43 PM
  #14  
UMBERT's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 80
Likes: 1
From: Chicagoland
hmmm... I wouldn't change to synthetic if I had... more then 80K miles or so... It might hurt... your wallet...
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 10:01 PM
  #15  
georgegiorgio's Avatar
G Force
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 419
Likes: 1
Go with Castrol Sync + K&N Oil Filter, you'll be amaze the power that was hidden...

I enjoy more of my TL-S now than a year ago...

Beware, it'll make you break harder too, because the extra power makes you go too fast and most of the time, you'll have to hit the break to slow down... hahaha
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:03 PM
  #16  
paliknight's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 975
Likes: 5
From: NJ, USA
^^^can anyone else confirm this?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:17 PM
  #17  
snake134's Avatar
Burning Brakes
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 892
Likes: 21
From: The Motor City
i doubt it
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:21 AM
  #18  
Rob RiL's Avatar
Unregistered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 369
Likes: 3
From: 504, Louisiana
Originally Posted by Timeless
This makes me feel like my money was well spent. The extra mileage claim really was my purchase reasoning but knowing you have good oil is relaxing.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:56 AM
  #19  
JD TL-S's Avatar
Safety Car
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,848
Likes: 134
From: Northern ILLINOIS
Amsoil with an Amsoil filter, or the Mobile 1 filter if you don't want the best.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:04 AM
  #20  
lemonade's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 1
this topic has been beaten to death...
I personally think there's no need to change to synthetic if people follow the MID (which is around 5-6 k).
Used oil analysis has shown a good mineral/syn-blend oil offer enough protection at that point. I personally use Motorcraft 5W20, $12.50 for 5 quarts, great price for me.
As road rage stated, i think changing syntheic oil within 6k is really a waste of money and resources. People want to know more about oil should check his post, lots of valuable info.

Call me cheap, my other Lexus has been using synthetic since 30k and now 90k, i'm actually thinking of switching back to mineral oil as it has no MID, so i change it every 5k.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:11 AM
  #21  
Turbonut's Avatar
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,900
Likes: 834
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Timeless
This article was posted a while back and it was pretty interesting for those who haven't seen it: http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf
Here's a thought about that test as it is designed to indicate only one aspect of oil quality:
Hi Ben. My name is Roger Miller. I do work for Red Line Oil in Victoria. One of my clients passed on your enquiry. In a rough sense this test is used for grease not oil. It is like using a quarter mile drag strip to find the "best four wheel drive on the market." A real test but totally irrelevant to what happens in the real world. The addition of friction modifiers to the test bears this out. You can take the nastiest oil on the market, add friction modifier to it and it will out-perform the best oil on the market. If you add friction modifier to a GL1 oil in this Falex test you can make it exceed the results for a GL5 oil. Most general use oils contain friction modifiers to a greater or lesser degree depending on the recipe the oil manufacturer is using that particular day. So what does the Falex test really test...???

Originally Posted by ankur914
Basically, OP, you’re going to find many opinions. The fact of the matter is, today's oil is top notch whether it be mineral or synthetic. Based on your readings, make a decision you’re comfortable with, because at the end of the day, with proper maintenance, you'll be fine with which ever oil you pick.
This sums it all up, use any oil and you'll be good to go!
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:13 PM
  #22  
Xiomaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
1st 3g Turbo TL-S
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 853
Likes: 14
yea, i figured all this was going to come up, but i drive my car hard, and with everything i'm getting ready to do with it I don't want to have any preexisting problems.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:32 PM
  #23  
georgegiorgio's Avatar
G Force
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 419
Likes: 1
I did my last oil change at the Authorized Shop in Covina, CA.

My 07 TL-S had 23875 miles, still had around 5% oil. This was just before moving to San Jose... And it as on Jan 5 or 6... I remember before I was moving that weekend, starting a new job on Monday Jan 12. And had to drive from LA to South Bay area.

I brought my Castrol Sync 5 Qt. and K&N Oil Filter. Castrol Oil got it in front the shop at Walmart and the K&N Oil Filter bought it from Autozone in Duarte, CA.

They change clean the engine bay, and check all parts and fill up the water and check the battery... Everything was done for less than 10 bucks I remember, I still have the invoice, if anybody wants proof, I can scan it...

So, they put a service reminder sticker, like April 7 or 8, or 27375 miles...

Now, my TL-S has almost 27,000 miles and the MID shows Oil Life 60% and this is like driving harder because never felt the extra power like before the last oil change.

As this pattern, I guess there would be about another 3 months before my next oil change... Maybe by 30,000?

Trust me, I feel that last oil change using Castrol Syn and K&N was totally worthy it.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:46 PM
  #24  
Ramrodthrusterpuppy's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 4
From: Ottawa, Canaduh!
Originally Posted by georgegiorgio

Trust me, I feel that last oil change using Castrol Syn and K&N was totally worthy it.
Then the oil company's marketing machine has done its job.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:31 PM
  #25  
JwongTLS's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,140
Likes: 2
What I meant was if u were going mobil 1 for example, u should SHOULD stick would mobil 1 filter.

Now I never heard of diffrent combo brand that would make your car perform better? If someone can comfirm this, that would be great.

I drive pretty hard and I use mobil 1 oil/filter. I usually change my oil every 3500-4000 miles. The MID still shows at least 40%. But I perfer changing it out more ofter just because I drive alot.

Last edited by JwongTLS; Apr 13, 2009 at 06:35 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:40 PM
  #26  
JwongTLS's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,140
Likes: 2
I use the Mobil 1 full synthetic w/ Mobil 1 M1-110 filter.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:07 PM
  #27  
TheChamp531's Avatar
Chapter Leader (San Antonio)
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,022
Likes: 437
From: Houston, Texas
Most name-brand oils, even conventional, are good enough for our engines and almost has the same effects and abilities as any other competitors does. Just make sure you get what you pay for such as your synthetic oil is actually 100% synthetic. Follow the MID and make sure you get the right filter for your oil. Don't get a conventional oil filter for synthetic oil. Different combos with oil and similar filters will not make a difference in anything on most occasions. Though most people like to keep with the oil's brand filter just to keep a consistent opinion on the performance of the oil and since they're deals for them.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:13 PM
  #28  
TLAdvanced's Avatar
The Kinetics of Bleu
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 5
From: Ocala, Fl
Think with your Dipstick, Jimmy!!

That's for thinking with your dipstick!
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:27 PM
  #29  
georgegiorgio's Avatar
G Force
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 419
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Ramrodthrusterpuppy
Then the oil company's marketing machine has done its job.
Well, not really, I've been using Castrol for many years, but not Synthetic... Cuz, my old cars didn't have the need.

I remember back in high school, when most of the European Rally cars were using Castrol and F1 too... So I've tried since then...
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 08:52 PM
  #30  
ladiesman217's Avatar
e92 335i
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 683
Likes: 54
From: Toronto
has anyone ever used Royal Purple? My friend w/ a TL recently used it and says he experiences faster acceleration and better mileage.. can anyone chime in?
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:15 PM
  #31  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by Turbonut
Here's a thought about that test as it is designed to indicate only one aspect of oil quality:
Hi Ben. My name is Roger Miller. I do work for Red Line Oil in Victoria. One of my clients passed on your enquiry. In a rough sense this test is used for grease not oil. It is like using a quarter mile drag strip to find the "best four wheel drive on the market." A real test but totally irrelevant to what happens in the real world. The addition of friction modifiers to the test bears this out. You can take the nastiest oil on the market, add friction modifier to it and it will out-perform the best oil on the market. If you add friction modifier to a GL1 oil in this Falex test you can make it exceed the results for a GL5 oil. Most general use oils contain friction modifiers to a greater or lesser degree depending on the recipe the oil manufacturer is using that particular day. So what does the Falex test really test...???



This sums it all up, use any oil and you'll be good to go!

So very true. The 4 ball wear test was designed for gear oils. Bleach does exceptionally well in this test. It means squat for motor oils.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:18 PM
  #32  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by ladiesman217
has anyone ever used Royal Purple? My friend w/ a TL recently used it and says he experiences faster acceleration and better mileage.. can anyone chime in?

I don't know where these horrible myths and lies come from. Switching from brand to brand in the same viscosity will make no difference whatsoever in power and mileage. No human is capable of telling a difference. Instead, we want to feel a difference from our $10/quart oil so we do.

It would take something like going from a 0w-20 to a 20-50 to really notice a difference.

Get real, with the same viscosity, somehow RP magically makes more hp? Impossible.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:49 PM
  #33  
lemonade's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 1
^^ x2
Marketing + Placebo effect.
No human can notice a difference, may be not even on a testing machine, since those 0.1 hp or so increase out of 250+ hp can be explained by systematic error...
That say if i put in a dino Pennzoil and tell you that it's Amsoil or Royal Purple, people will start saying "i feel faster this and smoother that"
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:33 AM
  #34  
skads_187's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
From: Montreal
what kind of oil does it use now. I just got my car a few mths ago, i have an 04. if i go with the oil life % displayed the oil will prob last me a whole year? thats pretty long. is it semi-synthetic?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:46 AM
  #35  
Legend2TL's Avatar
AZ Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,105
Likes: 4,763
From: Maryland
Castrol Sythec 5W-20 and OEM filters.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:56 AM
  #36  
AcuraVic's Avatar
Ak Ting Up
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 788
Likes: 4
From: Fairburn, Ga
Originally Posted by I hate cars
I don't know where these horrible myths and lies come from. Switching from brand to brand in the same viscosity will make no difference whatsoever in power and mileage. No human is capable of telling a difference. Instead, we want to feel a difference from our $10/quart oil so we do.

It would take something like going from a 0w-20 to a 20-50 to really notice a difference.

Get real, with the same viscosity, somehow RP magically makes more hp? Impossible.
I don't know about making more HP, but I had a 92 Accord EX (Auto), and switched from dino to Royal Purple, same viscosity, and the car pulled harder and shifted at redline (on full throttle), it would not shift at redline on the dino oil. Your thoughts ?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:03 AM
  #37  
AcuraVic's Avatar
Ak Ting Up
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 788
Likes: 4
From: Fairburn, Ga
PS, I Hate Cars

the Regal GN is one of my favorite cars of all time!!!!
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:25 AM
  #38  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by AcuraVic
the Regal GN is one of my favorite cars of all time!!!!
Thanks! Although once you own one and it sucks your savings dry you might change your mind.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:25 AM
  #39  
georgegiorgio's Avatar
G Force
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 419
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Legend2TL
Castrol Sythec 5W-20 and OEM filters.
Nice Dude, another using Castrol Synth.... hey how do you like them by the way?

My first oil change was done at the dealership where I bought my car, and they use regular Acura aka Mobil...

My 2nd and 3rd oil change was done at the dealership near where I used to work, and they used Pennzoil...

Last oil change was done at Authorized Honda/Acura Service Shop near my old apartment and I brought my own oil... Castrol Synth 5W-20 and K&N filter...

And I love the difference.... would probably keep using Castrol, how about you?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 11:11 AM
  #40  
myron's Avatar
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8,205
Likes: 269
From: Edmonton, Canada
I use quaker state full synthetic and it works fine.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:15 PM.