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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Switchback Turn Signal Question/s

Hey AZine switchback crew,

I've read the scattered threads but my question is pertaining to where to buy and why?
I have 60LED switchback from Autolumination and one of them is blowing my fuse immediately. I have emailed them with this problem but no reply yet.
I believe Steven Bell has stated that the 60LED will NOT work. I am a little stumped as I had them on for roughly 2-3 months without a problem. Is it too many LEDs or simply Autolumination is ?

I read V-LEDS sell the switchback turn signals as well.
Should I go with them?
Will the colour be the same as Autolumination? (I have 8000K low beams and they match very well to the switchbacks)
Why won't 60LED work?
Do you think Autolumination will do anything about my problem?

Feel free to share your thoughts and I know... lots of questions.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Souljah,

Tracy from Autolumination should write you back. Each time I wrote to them, Tracy took back my switchbacks (2 sets) and credited my account. The 60 LED's were the ones that blew my fuses too. So far, the 30 LED's are doing fine-no problems after 2 weeks.

By the way, did you write your original post incorrectly? You've mentioned the 60's twice.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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I don't see where I wrote 60's twice?
I have 60's, were working fine for a couple months
You stated 60's will not work
Ironically, one of my 60's went "bad"

Was curious on why. If it was 60's in general or Autolumination.
Steven, did you get the 30's from Autolumination?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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I personally did not have a good experience with autolumination. I wasted so much time to make sure the bulb was actually broken but observing it closely made me sure it wasn't my TL. There was a clear problem with the LED and she still charged me 20% and shipping to return the faulty bulb. The pricing wasn't good neither. So I ended up getting it from V-leds.

One from Autolumination:


One from V-led that works fine:


I'm not a big fun of bad mouthing anything especially online but I really feel it wasn't fair. Tracy was really good at communicating on email though.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
I don't see where I wrote 60's twice?
I have 60's, were working fine for a couple months
You stated 60's will not work
Ironically, one of my 60's went "bad"

Was curious on why. If it was 60's in general or Autolumination.
Steven, did you get the 30's from Autolumination?

See lines 2 & 3 in your first post.

I think it might be 60 LED's deal-I think they just overloaded the TL's system. It blew a fuse inside my engine compartment. That's why I switched to 30's. I don't think it's AutoLumination-I've ordered other bulbs from them and have not had any problems.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Thank you for the pics. Very helpful
But looks like V-Leds does not carry 60LED.
Do you have pics installed? I really want to try to keep my colour matched scheme.

Sounds odd but 8000K low beams look good with the 60LED autolumination switchbacks.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Oh I see Steven.
I was just trying to be clear that I have 60LED (worked for a bit) and read in another thread you stated 60LED does NOT work.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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OK-I just wanted to make sure I understood your statements/questions.

Here's a picture of my headlights with the 30's in-they are good enough for me and these are from AutoLumination. Again, no problems for a couple of weeks now.


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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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2) Did they mention anything about 48LED? I will probably get

Tracy has stopped responding to my emails. haa haa
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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I tried the 48's, but they burned out too, but I also discovered that I had a bad wiring harness on the driver's side. It might have been because of that faulty wiring in the harness that connects the turn signal. So I'm sticking with 30's-they're plenty bright and seem to match the headlights.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
1)
2) Did they mention anything about 48LED? I will probably get

Tracy has stopped responding to my emails. haa haa
I got 48 from V-leds and it's been working fine for a month now.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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It's kinda hard to take a picture that truely show the real color of the LED's. It usually shows up much blue than what it is. This is the best I could do. I still have the stock HID bulb with 48 switchback LED Version 2. The switchbacks are much whiter than the stock HID.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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^^^ That looks really good, Tako!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Tracy has stated that since it was working fine for the couple months, it cannot be the switchback that is the issue with the car....

I just replied my troubleshooting, maybe that will change the direction of our emails...
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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don't you need load resistors for LED SWITCHBACK's? I have my switchbacks installed with load resistor's because what happens is that LED's take less energy to light up. This confuses the car, and causes the car to think that the bulb is somehow lossing power or needs more power, then it starts sending more power to the LED, which could be causing the issue your having. Load resistors consume the extra electricity sent by the car.

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
Tracy has stated that since it was working fine for the couple months, it cannot be the switchback that is the issue with the car....

I just replied my troubleshooting, maybe that will change the direction of our emails...
She gave me that kinda answer when my switchback was not working at all. I knew I can just plug the switchback to the car and it will just hyperblink without the resistor. She told me that it's might now work without the resistor and told me to do more testing straight with the 12V battery. I wasted few hours knowing it was still bad switchback.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Here are my switchbacks 30's with 8k head and lower fog lights

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayam0n
don't you need load resistors for LED SWITCHBACK's? I have my switchbacks installed with load resistor's because what happens is that LED's take less energy to light up. This confuses the car, and causes the car to think that the bulb is somehow lossing power or needs more power, then it starts sending more power to the LED, which could be causing the issue your having. Load resistors consume the extra electricity sent by the car.


Yes, this is correct.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dat Boi Ralph
Here are my switchbacks 30's with 8k head and lower fog lights

It seems like your 8000k matches up with the switchback really good. which brand did you go with? any issue with it?
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Yes bayam0n, resistors are a must and I do have them.

My troubleshooting (post #23):
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/im-baffled-no-interior-lights-756542/
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Takoyaki
I'm not a big fun of bad mouthing anything especially online but I really feel it wasn't fair.
Usually I don't badmouth unless it is truly deserved. IMO autolumination does deserve it and the board has heard me bash them enough times.

autolumination has the most variety and selection for sure but V-LEDs, Oznium and SuperBrightLEDs has better quality products and better service.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rockyfeller
Usually I don't badmouth unless it is truly deserved. IMO autolumination does deserve it and the board has heard me bash them enough times.

autolumination has the most variety and selection for sure but V-LEDs, Oznium and SuperBrightLEDs has better quality products and better service.
I have read bad things about autolumination but I never really expected that I will go through the same kinda thing as what was written. When my LED didn't work, I heard someone said "I told you so" When Tracy told me that they gonna charge me 20% for the restocking fee for the broken parts, I was mad but I returned everything and got the whole thing from V-leds. The quality and the pricing was much better than autolumination. When I ordered my switchback from autolumination, I didn't realize that the pricing was only for a single LED and not a pair like V-leds
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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^^^ Yes, I went through 2 sets of LED switchbacks from AutoLumination.com and had to send them back. They found that both sets of bulb were bad. But I'm not sure if it was indeed the bulbs or because of the short in the wiring harness I discovered. I also looked at V-LEDS.com, but I also saw that they were very expensive.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Currently for the 48LED:

VLEDS- $39.99 for two (2)
Autolumination - $27.99 for one (1)
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Hmmm.....maybe I was looking at a different type. V-LED's had some switchback LED's for $79.99.
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Originally Posted by Takoyaki
It seems like your 8000k matches up with the switchback really good. which brand did you go with? any issue with it?
As for my hid's I got some of brand at least to me they are, there are called "bada bling" I get those local, and as for the switchbacks I order my first set from V-leds but when I purchased from them they only had "Version 2" and they wouldnt alternate when the parking lights were on. Then I found out that the same seller I got the hid kits he sells them and those are the ones that I have now. He told me that he is the one that supplies to V-leds don't know if its true, but I'm happy with my whole front lighting set up
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
Currently for the 48LED:

VLEDS- $39.99 for two (2)
Autolumination - $27.99 for one (1)
I got a pair of resistors for $8 from V-leds when I originally got a single resistor from autolumination for the same price. The shipping from V-led was free and I became a friend of V-leds on facebook, I got extra discount.
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Souljah, your Pedo-bear avatar creeps me out!!
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Souljah, your Pedo-bear avatar creeps me out!!
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Autolumination ripped me off too

1 of my 60's blew out and took the fuse with it.
I emailed Tracy and they agreed to take back the one bulb. They also agreed to exchange my other bulb for a 48 so this wouldnt happen again.

Long story short my working bulb magically stopped working when they received it so that they could make some more money off of me.

Avoid at all costs!
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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So, moral of the story, buy 48led's from v-leds?
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i have the 48 led switchbacks and they've been in for over a yr without any problems
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TlYungGun9
So, moral of the story, buy 48led's from v-leds?
I think so and get the resistors also. I got Version 2 and I'm really happy.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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I guess I'll just pick up a set from V-LEDS. I have been emailing Tracy for 2 days now and the best offered was a discount if I wish to purchase a replacement.
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btw to add to souljah bit, his switchback is actually shorted out internally so the reason for blowing the fuse right away, like 0 resistence vs like 2 mega ohms or so of what it shoud be
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Originally Posted by Dat Boi Ralph
Here are my switchbacks 30's with 8k head and lower fog lights

what kind of brand hid kit do you have for you fogs and color and also what brand and color bulbs for your headlights
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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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ohhh... my bad, got to excited when i seen ur lights that i didnt keep on reading the rest of the theads. lol sorry thanks though...
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nice set up and best match color..cool pic
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
OK-I just wanted to make sure I understood your statements/questions.

Here's a picture of my headlights with the 30's in-they are good enough for me and these are from AutoLumination. Again, no problems for a couple of weeks now.



that's a great looking setup.
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