Why spend 8k on a Supercharger when $800 will do a 70 shoot of NOS and produce the same Horse power.

 

How much do bottle refils cost and how soon will your engine blow up from the NOS?

 

Seven good reasons not to go the NOS route:
1. NOS takes up trunk space
2. Anything that requires a blanket is high maintenance (bottle blanket)
3. There's only one thing in the car that needs to be erected at an angle...me
4. Any empty bottle of any kind is always bad
5. Not everywhere you go will have a refill, unless you find a good dentist
6. At some point you will surely surpass the cost of a supercharger on refills
7. If pulled over, some states it's illegal to have NOS even mounted

Seven good reasons to go the supercharger route:
1. Only takes up space under hood (more space for bodies in trunk)
2. Doesn't need a blanket to work under pressure (pressure, that's a funny)
3. No refills required (except fuel for car)
4. If pulled over, it's not illegal to have it
5. It becomes one with the engine, a synchronous marriage of metal, er aluminum
6. Power is always just a tap away
7. The whistle while it works!


Having used both in previous vehicles, I definitely like NOS, but appreciate so much more the low maintenance of Boost.

Of course there's that whole cost up front thing. But whatever, look how much you save on refills down the road.

Last but not least, we are a society of instant gratification. So we pay to be gratified sooner. Pay now, boost now. You'll get weary of calling one eight hundred dentist to find the next nearest nitrous tank to refill. LOL!!!




Anywhere from 15 - 40 bucks per refill (for a 10 lbs. bottle), depending on the availability of a nitrous dealer. You can use nitrous throughout the natural life of the engine provided you don't use a high HP nozzle. Keep it below a 100 shot on the higher compression engines. That's still even a little high.

Happy boosting, er choosing!

 

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Great post.

 

I imagine that a Supercharger has a bad effect on gas mileage, or is there a way to turn it off during normal driving?

 

can't really turn off supercharger unless you have an electronic bypass valve that will stay open and let some of the compressed air out. then the computer has to realize this and adjust the the fuel. supercharger makes more power because you pump more fuel into the engine.

 

NOS is the same, it too requires more fuel to be introduced with the NOS shot...

Both increase air, one does it mechanically the other chemically. Anytime you increase the air you will need more fuel. :-)

One drawback to a SG is the fact they rob HP from the engine. A SG may produce 100 HP but it will require 30HP of the engine just to turn it, thus a 70 HP gain. Its a win/loose situation. That's why turbo's are often better.

I've dealt with all three. If done properly they are safe for the engine. If installed/tuned poorly, all bets are off.

 

Is more like $6k with installation.

I think NOS is more fun and it has a better punch...but is very limited(usage) and if you run out, you have to wait(refill) to use it again.

SC will always be there.

I like to have NOS for emergency(race) of just add temporary rush of fun.

 

also nos eats away at engine parts. if not using forged cranks (durabality) and forged pistons, it will start eating at the pistons. Ive seen it from guys that use it at the track all the time. That is heavy use though. If you just use it once a year you should be fine.

 

Different kind of Nitrous.....

 

actually it's one and the same:

http://www.idavette.net/hib/nitrous.htm

all good ole' N2O, although i believe dentists also use an extra bottle of oxygen when they administer it. i prefer novacaine so i'm not too sure about that part.

 

I'd say because I like my car (or bike) to have the power all the time, and somehow, I figure running NOS all the time might be a bad thing... :o

 

$8k on a supercharger that's a lot of money!

 

Shows my age, back in the day they were seperate types, oh well gettin old.

 

Nitrous does NOT eat engine parts, a properly tuned system will run with the best of them. The problems most people have are from leaning out, detonation and just plain running too big of a shot.I plan on running a 75 shot, nitrouse express of course.Also chances are the the expense of running nos will never exceed the price of supercharger on the average street car.This is the way I see it and I've been involved with drag racing for about 9 years.

 

True they are the same but now days, actually back to the early 90's, race/car NOS had/has an additive that makes most folks sick if inhailed... Keeps folks to using it in their car vs "other applications"....

When I was first introduced to NOS (non dental issue) back in the mid 80's I lived in a small town in Montana. Our local source to fill our bottle was a local Dentist.. I really couldn't say whether it was illegal back then but am sure it is for a Dentist to sell it today.. Ah the innocent times... I can honestly say it was all used at full throttle,,, mostly through the nozzle's

I had a 275hp cheater kit on my LS6 454 tuned to perfection running 114 octane Trick racing fuel. Never dyno'ed but if you did the math it was right around 700hp total. What fond and exhilarating memories.....

 

Vtec187,

Shoot me an IM. I would like to know your setup when you get it done and how it worked for you.

James

 

No prob, I'll tell you what it's gonna be now. Plugs will be I step colder, cat back exhaust with no catthat I intend to tig up myself using 16 guage 304, K&N filter because I can do without the "roar" of a cai on this car, ne single fogger 75 shot and possibly some bfg drag radials.BTW, this is an automatic, 6mt guys will be seeing my taillights.

 

Yes, the greater the distance between the pedal and the floor, the more gas you save.

 

It has not effected my gas mileage unless I really get on it. It took the same amount of gas to get from Tallahassee to Orlando before the install. And the same amount of gas going back to Tallahassee. It all depends on how heavy your foot is. If I race someone I'll definitely see the needle move, but then again when I was stock and I would race I still saw the needle move. So no, for me the S/C has not had a bad effect on gas mileage. Just depends on how much you play, and with the SC you find yourself wanting to play more alot more.

 

Hey Lady,

If you ever take a trip down to the Boca Raton/Palm Beach area please shoot me an email first. I would LOVE a ride in your car. Maybe we can even set up a little spirited 1/4 mile jaunt between our two TL's!

I think the lack of headers in the 04 TL supercharger setup will hurt the package....

 

I was suppose to go to Palm Beach last weekend but my peeps opted for ATL. I'll definitely be down your way this summer though. It would be a nice run, let me know when your SC is in and I'll make that trip.

What do you mean no headers? I'm sure they'll find aways around that, how could they not? What is there not enough room?

One last thing, ONLY if you give me a ride in the NSX!

 

Absolutely!

The NSX can do 12.9 in the 1/4 at Moroso with only a K&N and the spare tire removed

I love my Auras!

 

Hey lady just wondering how much ure supercharger really was ive heard 6k -10k and were u got it from?? if you have any online sites please show me....


And did the supercharger drop the 0-60 times to 5 flat by any chance??

Thnx for the news

 

I talked to a service tech who has modded his Integra alot, and he thinks that if we could get the horsepower around 330HP it would pull around 5's. I told him I have a 5AT, so im not sure if his estimate was for that or 6MT, but either way....he thinks the supercharger will add around 50HP, so I bet if not that by itself, a nice air filter or intake would get our baby to 5 flat. He also thinks the SC will run around 4K. We're waiting Comptech..... :shit:

 

OMG I AM DEF GETTIN THIS MOD UNLESSS YOU GUYS THINK THAT HONDA WILL COME OUT WITH A ECU COMPATABLE TURBO?????? IF NOT THAT SUPERCHARGER IS MINE WIHT A CAI AND NEW EXHAUST OOOOOOOOOOO BABY cant wait more than 15 days goin NUCKIN FUTZ

 

I'm now running a 120 shot and have passed over 30 bottles (15 pounders) through the system with absolutely zero problems. I recently ran a 13.4 at 107 which I pretty sure is the fastest time by anyone here on the board. My only other mod is an AEM intake which I bought to be able to install the dry shot.

I pay $32 to fill up the bottle and can get ten 1/4 mile passes out of one bottle. I paid about $1200 for everything installed. Do a search from previous threads to see my setup.

I also own a supercharged Corvette and turbo Miata (Both systems I had installed) so I am not against forced induction. With the Acura however, it was just sooooooo much cheaper for more power.

 

$6k for an SC, good grief NEVER. I don't care how into cars I was, I think I would have to pass a $6k SC up. I didn't spend $6k on the SC, body kit and drop all together. I have no idea what the SC did for my 0-60 times, I didn't install it to take it to the track. Those days are over for me, to much wear and tear I learned my lesson with my Civic. Replacing clutches and trannies was a pain. Mine is strictly for butt kicking in the streets

I will be shocked if the SC comes out for $4k but we'll see. You guys will love it regardless, especially the manual trannie drivers out there.

 

Type S Lady: How much did installation come out to?

 

$450.00 I think.

 

Info please.....(if it's not in your thred you spoke of)

Can you have NOS and a supercharger working for ya at the same time?

What is the difference and pros and cons between dry and wet shot? (I thought wet shot was helathier for engine)

Where did you get the NOS kit from?

What HP shot did you use?

Any upgrades necessary for running it? (Forged pistons, intake, exhaust, etc)

THANKS

 

That is extremely reasonable. Thanks.

 

http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75587

 

THat answereed some of them.....do you know the pros and cons of wet vs dry? THink NOS and SC could wrok simultaneously? Where did you get the NOS?

 

where do you live in Florida?

 

Sorry about the typing...

 

Where are good tracks and road stretches in Florida? I used to visit alot - Tampa, Pompano Beach, Homstead, Miami, Key Largo, thinking about going down again soon....

 

I went with a dry shot as its far less complicated. Nitrous and a supercharger combined is a bad idea on this motor.

And to answer the other question, I'm up in Jax.

 

Not if you care at all about your engine. It's common thinking that a SC adds about 2-2.5 points of compression to your motor. The NOS should add about another 1.5-2 (relatively speaking). Maybe more depending on the shot. Put this on a normal engine and you're looking at 14:1 to 15:1 compression. This will kill a stock enigne no doubt. A heavily modded engine might take this with a good amount of timing retard. I would not do this under any circumstance.