I've searched this site and Vtec.net for people who have replaced their stock 2004 air filter with a K&N and then decided to remove the resonator. It seems the jury is still out on any gains vs driveability/noise problems. Any ideas...until Comptech comes out with an Icebox intake?

 

Aegir member of acura-tl has removed his and he said there isnt any gain cuz he dynoed his car.... but i dont know anything about ICEBOX intake from comptech

 

I don't think it's worth the effort for what you get. Either replace it with a CAI if that's what your looking for, or leave it as is. Search my threads and you'll find a lot of information.

 

i think u should search it for him

 

k&n doesnt make a drop in replacement filter for the tl. at least there website doesnt show it... i have been waiting to get one, correct me if im wrong?

 

they took it off the website listing. the part number is 33-2078.....i believe. do a search for my postings....i've posted it a few times already.

 

:P

 

Thanks...I'm new to the site but already impressed with Aegir and Road Rage. You guys appear to know what you're talking about.

 

hey just do this. click on his name.. and then when it takes you to his info. look for threads started by user.. and you get a long list of things that he has posted. and also you could choose threads that he has posted on...

 

Thanks. Let me know if you can't find the threads.

You have to watch Jatt...he thinks everyone is his bitch! Every now and then, he needs a little...

I think he likes it!

 

hey hey calm down now lol

sorry i'm not trying to but roadrage didnt even post in this thread and he still got creidt... what about me

 

The intake resonator gets more bad press on the Internet than practically any other piece. The fact is, the intake system is tuned to ensure the best overall airflow, and to produce a broad torque curve. Some aftermarket CAI's may show a peak HP gain of a few ponies, but a loss in the power midrange. Resonators not only reduce intake roar (which some younger members and Civic owners seem to think is cool), but they can be tuned to provide optimum airflow throughtout the range. Recall that the TL's intake manifold has adjustable "flaps" - these are designed to work to adjust intake runner length to optimize both low and high RPM power - just as VTEC is mechanically oriented to provide proper breathing, so is the intake system, including the resonator.

For the scientifically inclined amongst you, recall your studies of Helmholtz resonance principles - just as a tuned port in a speaker can allow for increased efficiency and output in the bass range. One can plug up a speaker port, but generally it shifts the bass resonance point up, and output falls off as a 4th order integral below that - and distortion rises as excursion capability decreases.

I blocked off the resonator on my S2000, but after very careful studies of the airflow, gutting of the stock airbox, and the installation of a "ram air" snorkel in the cool, high pressure zone just in front of the lower radiator shroud. That is quite different than just yanking out pieces.

Pull the resonator if you want more intake noise, hissing, and a possible hi-rpm boost - but I doubt it will affect overall performance.

 

^- Well said

 

...but I gave you a fish!

 

Who's your Daddy?

 

I just installed this same filter in my 04 5AT TL and I think this is the best bang for the buck! $37 & 10min to install(Actually 30min wait to reset the ECU)...can't beat that! The TL is definitely more responsive throughout the RPM band and did not increase the sound by much.

 

Numbers please - Placebo Effect is a strong element, as is cognitive dissonance - it is what all those miracle oil additives and fuel supplements count on - it is a well known fact that people adjust their driving habits and perceptions based on their anticipations. How else can one explain the phenomenon of The Tornado, which is absolute junk science?