Offical 2004-2006 Switchblade key continued.
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Offical 2004-2006 Switchblade key continued.
Due to some issues with the software the forum uses, there is alot of lag with long threads.Due to that, I am restarting the Key thread here:
I have gotten JnC's key and got the final price on the keys. Acurazine has sent me some vendor info, but not of it is feasable as I am not making any profit on the keys.
You are ordering just the milled key, you will have to get it cut and programed when you get it. If you want to save money with this, search for acccord key and there will be a DIY on how to rip out your old immoblizer. Then google acura switchblade and there will be a DIY on how to put your immoblizer into the new switchblade key. After you cut the immoblizers out, there is no turning back for your old keys.
For those with TSX's, I am sorry, But I ask that you please remove yourself from the List as I want to be 100% sure that the keys will work. I will buy and mill a key at my expense and test fit it to a local TSX. I am sorry for this.
IF YOU STILL WANT A KEY, ADD YOUR NAME BY 2 PM Thursday July 31st and Pay for the key by thursday. IF YOU NEED MORE TIME PM ME
Website for payment/order
WWW.SWITCHBLADEKEYS.COM
Pricing if you will ship me the key (switchblade blank) is:
30 dollars for 1 key, 50 for two keys.
If you buy the key from me, it is 100 dollars per key to your door.
Like I said before, this is no profit to me at all.
csmeance
EDIT:
FAQ's
1. If I only have one of my orignal keys, does that matter?
No, it does not matter if you have only one of the orignal keys, you can still purchase, cut and program 2 switchblade keys.
2. Will you send the key cut for my specific vehicle?
No, the key will be milled (the grooves cut in) and you will need it cut to fit your exact car.
3. Is there any way to save money?
Yes, you can cut the immoblizer out of your old keys and transplant them into your new switchblade key.
4. What is the pricing?
100 dollars for the key to your door
30-50 dollars if you have a blank switchblade already and need it milled, to your door.
5. What do I have to do after getting the key/s?
You will have to do 3 things:
1. Program the remote (unlock/lock), this can be done by anyone
2. Program the immoblizer, this can be done by any locksmith or acura dealer.
3. Cut the key to your car, this can be done by any locksmith or acura dealer.
6. Do you ship to canada?
Yes, I will ship to canada, but I will need you address once the 50 keys+ break is completed to alert you of any extra shipping costs. Est. is about 10 dollars extra.
7. Do I need to send you anything?
Not really, if you use the 100 dollar option, nothing needs to be sent. If you use the 30-50 dollar option, you will need to send me ONLY the blank switchblade key/s.
8. How do I program the remote (unlock/locl/trunk/panic ONLY) to the car?
Follow the instructions on this page
9. How do I do the immobizer swap (optional if you wish to save money, but loose your orignal keys)?
You will need to cut out the immoblizer chip (known as a transponder). Here is the thread to the removal:
Cuting out immoblizer/transponder from old key
Then you will need to put that chip in the switchblade key, follow this DIY to put it in:
How to remove the immoblizer from the switchblade and put in chip into your switchblade
If you do not understand what is meant by milling, here are some pictures to clarify:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
I have gotten JnC's key and got the final price on the keys. Acurazine has sent me some vendor info, but not of it is feasable as I am not making any profit on the keys.
You are ordering just the milled key, you will have to get it cut and programed when you get it. If you want to save money with this, search for acccord key and there will be a DIY on how to rip out your old immoblizer. Then google acura switchblade and there will be a DIY on how to put your immoblizer into the new switchblade key. After you cut the immoblizers out, there is no turning back for your old keys.
For those with TSX's, I am sorry, But I ask that you please remove yourself from the List as I want to be 100% sure that the keys will work. I will buy and mill a key at my expense and test fit it to a local TSX. I am sorry for this.
IF YOU STILL WANT A KEY, ADD YOUR NAME BY 2 PM Thursday July 31st and Pay for the key by thursday. IF YOU NEED MORE TIME PM ME
Website for payment/order
WWW.SWITCHBLADEKEYS.COM
Pricing if you will ship me the key (switchblade blank) is:
30 dollars for 1 key, 50 for two keys.
If you buy the key from me, it is 100 dollars per key to your door.
Like I said before, this is no profit to me at all.
csmeance
EDIT:
FAQ's
1. If I only have one of my orignal keys, does that matter?
No, it does not matter if you have only one of the orignal keys, you can still purchase, cut and program 2 switchblade keys.
2. Will you send the key cut for my specific vehicle?
No, the key will be milled (the grooves cut in) and you will need it cut to fit your exact car.
3. Is there any way to save money?
Yes, you can cut the immoblizer out of your old keys and transplant them into your new switchblade key.
4. What is the pricing?
100 dollars for the key to your door
30-50 dollars if you have a blank switchblade already and need it milled, to your door.
5. What do I have to do after getting the key/s?
You will have to do 3 things:
1. Program the remote (unlock/lock), this can be done by anyone
2. Program the immoblizer, this can be done by any locksmith or acura dealer.
3. Cut the key to your car, this can be done by any locksmith or acura dealer.
6. Do you ship to canada?
Yes, I will ship to canada, but I will need you address once the 50 keys+ break is completed to alert you of any extra shipping costs. Est. is about 10 dollars extra.
7. Do I need to send you anything?
Not really, if you use the 100 dollar option, nothing needs to be sent. If you use the 30-50 dollar option, you will need to send me ONLY the blank switchblade key/s.
8. How do I program the remote (unlock/locl/trunk/panic ONLY) to the car?
Follow the instructions on this page
9. How do I do the immobizer swap (optional if you wish to save money, but loose your orignal keys)?
You will need to cut out the immoblizer chip (known as a transponder). Here is the thread to the removal:
Cuting out immoblizer/transponder from old key
Then you will need to put that chip in the switchblade key, follow this DIY to put it in:
How to remove the immoblizer from the switchblade and put in chip into your switchblade
If you do not understand what is meant by milling, here are some pictures to clarify:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
#2
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I have gotten more than half of the payments,as of 11:10 PM EST, here is the list of members that have paid:
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
58. Highspeed
59. acuratlboi
60. ryder1650
61. blatallic
I have a total of 64 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
58. Highspeed
59. acuratlboi
60. ryder1650
61. blatallic
I have a total of 64 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
#3
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Thread Starter
If you still want a key, Please go to the website www.switchbladekeys.com and pay for one. I will add you to my paid list, and if you are sending me a key, an email reply will be sent with the shipping address.
#6
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Originally Posted by JnC
Cut/program quote from Sunny Side Acura
$99.
Kindly post a quote if you have gotten one from your local dealership.
$99.
Kindly post a quote if you have gotten one from your local dealership.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...68#post2130468
#7
Quiet, Rika Neenja!
I think it'd be good to add links for the how-to program your own key, and also how to transplant your own chip, if you could edit them into the first post that would be tits.
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#9
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Thread Starter
I have gotten more than half of the payments,as of 10:00 PM EST, here is the list of members that have paid:
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
I have a total of 60 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
I have a total of 60 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
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Originally Posted by SRT-11
I think it'd be good to add links for the how-to program your own key, and also how to transplant your own chip, if you could edit them into the first post that would be tits.
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how many of you are going to do this DIY?
transponder switch
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Originally Posted by csmeance
I have gotten more than half of the payments,as of 10:00 PM EST, here is the list of members that have paid:
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
I have a total of 60 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
I have a total of 60 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
I paid earlier today, and don't see myname added to the list. Just double checking!
#14
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Originally Posted by BlackTiGeR
how many of you are going to do this DIY?
transponder switch
transponder switch
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#15
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Thread Starter
I have gotten more than half of the payments,as of 11:10 PM EST, here is the list of members that have paid:
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
58. Highspeed
59. acuratlboi
I have a total of 63 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
1. IMJ0257
2. Trlblzr
3. Jahbless
4. Thomodochi
5. Funcman
6. Vtekken
7. Swoosh
8. Firstacuratl
9. Distorted Reality
10. Donsaxena
11. rkun934
12. nemo121
13. hoangtran9
14. tarheelblue
15. DonnieDark8221
16. Justinz71
17. holografique
18. Revolt
19. itsryanftw
20. lth8626
21. mamitaxchula
22. Nightfox.technologies
23. Cdat
24. Asianetta
25. Glowder
26. Blacktiger
27. tidus888
28. Black_dc2
29. Dads05TL
30. Aredmoon
31. nyctl
32. bclee
33. Jmkiang
34. Leedogg
35. Kris
36. AcuraJJ
37. ezland00
38. Incapower
39. Falen
40. mitchamuga
41. srt-11
42. crbonfbr
43. tungtnguyen_3
44. Maxamillion
45. Sdk2k1
46. Phenomengan
47. azianboy
48. 46.VT06TL
49. absimon
50. Morrissey1990
51. JCROWN
52. Clavodulve16
53. Laxplay11385
54. RigasMinho
55. DaveD
56. Nautica91
57. Krazeboy
58. Highspeed
59. acuratlboi
I have a total of 63 payments.
Last day for payment is thursday, if you cannot pay by then PM me and we can work something out. According to the list, there were more than 70 orders, if you cannot pay for some reason, please PM me, or if you need more time for the money, please PM me.
#16
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
Transplanting chips, requires you to cut up both your existing key AND the new key. Not worth the effort and money. It will not look too pretty
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sorry forgot to add my name, I sent payment as onenonlyxkrn@hotmail.com BTW do u need my address for u to ship the key?
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ok!! yes i am new here.. but i have a question... i have an 05 TL.. all this talk about transponder chips??? am i gonna have to do all that?? or can they just program it to use in my car??
#20
Quiet, Rika Neenja!
question- is the chip RF? Like could you just take it out of the old key and hold it right by the ignition cylinder and still start it up with the properly cut new key? if so, could you just take the steering wheel surround off, tape the chip in next to the cylinder and then put it back and not have to discombobulate your new expensive key?
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^^ Its not RF. The chip is linked to the metal part of the key which when inserted into the ignition communicates with the chip control in the car. If its programmed correct the chip control will let the ECU start the car otherwise it wont.
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Originally Posted by SRT-11
question- is the chip RF? Like could you just take it out of the old key and hold it right by the ignition cylinder and still start it up with the properly cut new key? if so, could you just take the steering wheel surround off, tape the chip in next to the cylinder and then put it back and not have to discombobulate your new expensive key?
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#24
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Originally Posted by morrissey1990
ok!! yes i am new here.. but i have a question... i have an 05 TL.. all this talk about transponder chips??? am i gonna have to do all that?? or can they just program it to use in my car??
Kind of the same thing, except the key has a chip in it, and it is programmed to your vehicle. This keeps someone from making a copy of your key and stealing your car. Even with the correct key, they need to have it chipped to your car.
You can either cut the chip out of your old key and insert it into the switchblade, since it is already programmed; or you can bring the switchblade to the dealer or a locksmith and they can reprogram it for you with their fancy little machine.
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for all the NYC people. I just called the locksmith and is $60 to cut and program the switch blade. It will program the immibolizer as well. which is what the person on the phone said.
$100 milled switchblade + $60 = $160 not bad for such a cool key
$100 milled switchblade + $60 = $160 not bad for such a cool key
Originally Posted by clavodulce16
THIS CAN BE USEFUL, I WILL CALL THE LOCKSMITH IN NYC TO
VERIFY.
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VERIFY.
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#27
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If I go to the dealer and buy the transmitter and key 35119-SEP-305, and they will cut and program for about $100, do they mill it too? Why do I need to have it milled in advance of taking it to the dealer for cutting and programming?
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Originally Posted by stevesTL
If I go to the dealer and buy the transmitter and key 35119-SEP-305, and they will cut and program for about $100, do they mill it too? Why do I need to have it milled in advance of taking it to the dealer for cutting and programming?
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GB ends inm about 6 hours....
#30
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Originally Posted by morrissey1990
ok!! yes i am new here.. but i have a question... i have an 05 TL.. all this talk about transponder chips??? am i gonna have to do all that?? or can they just program it to use in my car??
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Originally Posted by clavodulce16
for all the NYC people. I just called the locksmith and is $60 to cut and program the switch blade. It will program the immibolizer as well. which is what the person on the phone said.
$100 milled switchblade + $60 = $160 not bad for such a cool key
$100 milled switchblade + $60 = $160 not bad for such a cool key
I just purchase the switchblade.
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Originally Posted by |dr3w|83
I just purchase the switchblade.
I was wondering which locksmith in NYC did you call? Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by imj0257
cut/program from my dealer aka Goodson Acura - $120
cut/program from Mac Churchill Acura - $60
^wtf?
cut/program from Mac Churchill Acura - $60
^wtf?
Let ME check, I am long time friends with the GM of Goodson, have sold him his son's Hockey gear for years. Let me call him tommorow and see if I can get any kind of break, hopefully i can and can get that for both of us.
ps for some reason i am unable to pm anyone? why might this be, I am a new member.
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Originally Posted by JCROWN
Let ME check, I am long time friends with the GM of Goodson, have sold him his son's Hockey gear for years. Let me call him tommorow and see if I can get any kind of break, hopefully i can and can get that for both of us.
ps for some reason i am unable to pm anyone? why might this be, I am a new member.
ps for some reason i am unable to pm anyone? why might this be, I am a new member.
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Originally Posted by clavodulce16
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Csme How Long Until We Receive Our Keys?
Csme How Long Until We Receive Our Keys?
I ordered the keys today, so the keys should be here in 5 days
Once I get them, milling starts 1-2 days
I ship keys out 3-5 days
those switchblade keys cost almost 5K
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