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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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new 3g, sore back

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Just picked up my 3g about a month ago and so far my only complaint(besides some rattles) has been that I can't find a comfortable seat position on this thing. This, of course, isn't something that popped up in the test drive as it shows up after my long commute of 40 miles each way. I just got back from a 300 mile road trip and my lower back is pretty sore. I'm young, in good health and have driven everything from benzes to kias and never had something this obvious from a car seat.

So I wanted to see if anyone else experienced similar problems in their tl and if they went away? I'm under the CPO so I'm planning on taking it in to fix some rattles and take a look at the seat as well. Not sure what they'll do to it, but I figured I'd give it a shot.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Your driver's seat does have adjustable lumbar support - try that? Driver's back is also heated - put it on low for a real treat after work....
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Your driver's seat does have adjustable lumbar support - try that? Driver's back is also heated - put it on low for a real treat after work....
Have tried the lumbar, but it seems to aggravate the problem. I've never had one on a car before so maybe I'm not used to it. The heated seat does offer some relief though
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Its the seats that are tailored for fat american asses, I think. My pain is in my left butt cheek and I first felt it when I had a 3G loaner while they replaced the tranny on my '00. Now, I have gotten somewhat used to it, but it is still there. Still not sure if its the car, my bed or a combination of both.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Never had a problem, the TL is so much more comfortable than so many other cars I've driven. Try to get a spot that feels good when not driving.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Odd... I find the TL seats pretty damn comfortable, but then again, I'm coming from several years of driving Miatas. What do I know? lol
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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The MOST comfortable seats I sat in was my 2000 TL I loved them
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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The MOST comfortable seats I sat in was my 2000 TL I loved them
Agreed!
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Thought it was just me, but I've had slight aching back ever since I bought this 3G. I love it of course, I think I just have to find the sweet spot Good luck!
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Its the seats that are tailored for fat american asses, I think. My pain is in my left butt cheek and I first felt it when I had a 3G loaner while they replaced the tranny on my '00. Now, I have gotten somewhat used to it, but it is still there. Still not sure if its the car, my bed or a combination of both.
yeah manufactors not just honda have started to make wider seats for the us heavier americans, but i wish they would keep the narrower seats from elsewhere or at least give us a option, i am on the skinner side, so i slide around some when doing sprinted driving
(i remember seeing something years ago that honda had started to make there seats like 2" wider or something in like the early 2000's or something) (i have a 2g, so can't really comment on the 3g seats, but did wish they had put a telescopic steering wheel on the 2g; feels too far away, but legs are cramped)
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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my lower back hurts on long drives too when i use my left hand on the top of the steering wheel, so when i drive for over an hour i usualy sit back and drive with the bottom of the steering wheel.. heated seats really do help
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Its the seats that are tailored for fat american asses, I think. My pain is in my left butt cheek and I first felt it when I had a 3G loaner while they replaced the tranny on my '00. Now, I have gotten somewhat used to it, but it is still there. Still not sure if its the car, my bed or a combination of both.
Finally, an excuse to put on some excessive weight .

I'm used to firmer, no lumbar support, flat seats, so maybe the cushiony contour with excellent lumbar support seats don't work for me? But I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Seats are pretty comfortable, IMHO.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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i just hate when sum1 seat on my passenger seat and TURNS my HEATER ON!!! Ugh u kno who u r lol
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Thats a favorite trick of mine on my daughter. Problem is, I know she'll catch on someday! I hate swamp-ass!
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Thats a favorite trick of mine on my daughter. Problem is, I know she'll catch on someday! I hate swamp-ass!
yeah they can get pretty sweaty down there
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Its the seats that are tailored for fat american asses, I think.
Probably...

I'm an American without a big ass & I wish that you could narrow up the bolsters some....
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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ive had my TL for juss over a year now and i still find my self adjusting the seat settings, im glad im not alone. i found out that the seat has an effect on how I accelarate on the gas pedal. the closer i am to the wheel, the easier it is to accelerate and the farther i am from the steering wheel, the harder i have to press to accel.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Seats are pretty comfortable but nothing compared to my 2G TL(incredible!)
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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So a little bit of progress since yesterday, lol. I had initially written off the lumbar support since whenever I'd have it on just slightly it would cause me discomfort. I figured using it more would make it worse.

But yesterday, in an effort to do something completely different, I pushed it really far out, so much so that my lower back/ass area isn't up against the back of the seat. I then reclined my seat more than I usually do.(I usually ride with it mostly upright). I then had to move the seat up a bit to reach the steering wheel(as an aside I wish the wheel telescoped more. I'm 6'3 but I really have to stretch to reach the wheel.)

This set up seems to work pretty well so far. My back was pretty sore yesterday from my long drive on saturday, but felt good with this new set up. I went to the gym, did some squats and my back felt pretty good on the way home. Just did my morning commute of about an hour and it feels better than usual. I've never had lumbar support before, so I'm hoping as I adjust to it, it will only get better and get to the point where my TL fits like a glove.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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I have a lower back issue myself. I find that if a recline the seat some it takes pressure off the lower back. Found my sweet spot. Once you find that sweet spot, hit your memory button to save it.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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The MOST comfortable seats I sat in was my 2000 TL I loved them
1st gen RL seats are hard to beat.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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^I can't quote for some reason...

anyways, the seats on the RL look like they could be very comfortable! Seems like the older models, like the 2G TL /1G RL/etc. had the best seats. They feel so much softer and I bet they have more cushioning.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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i can sit for hours in my seats, and i've had two back surgeries
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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My seat gives me back issues as well, no matter how I adjust the lumbar. The lumbar only provides temporary relief until my back starts feeling sore again. Can't seem to find a comfortable position.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Its the seats that are tailored for fat american asses, I think. My pain is in my left butt cheek and I first felt it when I had a 3G loaner while they replaced the tranny on my '00. Now, I have gotten somewhat used to it, but it is still there. Still not sure if its the car, my bed or a combination of both.
I defintely believe that is true.
I have yet been able to find a comfortable adjustment where my ass is not in pain after driving...
But just gotta suck up and get use to it.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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I also consider the seat entirely too firm and after a couple hour drive I feel as though I've spent the time in a covered wagon. The car drives fantastic and a pleasure to operate, but the seats certainly aren't up to my standard, that’s why I use the 2008 knock around car most of the time. I could drive the 2008 for hours and arrive refreshed, not in the TL. I've said it before; the seats in our modified RX7 Turbo are more comfortable than the units in the TL, and the WJ Grand Cherokee is far superior to the TL in driving comfort.

We're not alone as I found these during a quick search.

Back issue with TL seats:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/seating-question-629431/

Sore after a long drive:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/sore-%40%24%24-seat-619513/

Pain in the butt:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/my-06-tl-seat-pain-butt-help-601218/

Most uncomfortable seat:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/well-i-dont-know-how-much-longer-597113/

Uncomfortable seats:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/seat-break-period-593310/

Butt-leg numbing pain:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/driver-seat-discomfort-any-thoughts-581013/
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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When I drove the TL I noticed the ass cheeks used to ache before my back. Just get in a comfortable spot and try adjusting positions see what works.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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I've never had a problem with my seats. They're not the most confortable, but i haven't had any issues with my back. The most confortable seats i've sat in are in my Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AM046SP
I've never had a problem with my seats. They're not the most confortable, but i haven't had any issues with my back. The most confortable seats i've sat in are in my Jeep Grand Cherokee.

We had a '01 leather, great seats, too bad the rest of the Jeep disintegrates easily. My daughter's ’05 Hemi Grand, seats are terrible!
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Crazy...I've had the car for two years now and I thought it was just me that had my back hurting after 30 minutes or more of driving. Ive played with multiple positions and it offers only a temporary relief, but no matter what the pain always comes back either in my butt cheek or my lower back.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:45 AM
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First, let me apologize for bumping a thread just to agree. I've had my TL for a total of two weeks over the last 2 months of ownership (in the shop for warranty work). While the TL was in the shop, they gave me a 2005 CTS loaner, which I ragged out, but all in great comfort. I got the TL back a week ago, took a short (1.5 hour) trip and when I got back I had to go to the doctor for 3 prescriptions and a physical therapy appointment because of those damn seats. I'm going to try to find the sweet spot, but I'm more apt to swap some better seats in.

I should include that I dislocated a vertebrae in my upper lumbar about 10 years ago, but sitting down has never caused anything like this! Oh well, pain killers are entertaining.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AM046SP
I've never had a problem with my seats. They're not the most confortable, but i haven't had any issues with my back. The most confortable seats i've sat in are in my Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Most Comfortable Seats EVER = 1999-2004 Grand Cherkoee... those leather seats, especially on the limited edition/special editions... were butter


Old Cadillacs/Lincolns seem to be pretty sweet too.

i dont think acura's are that bad. i spend 2-5 hours a day in my car. they've all been good to me. i'm 6'2 200lbs
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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yea there a little uncomfortable if you ask me. I came from a 2003 acura tl and those seats blow away the 3g's in the comfort zone. but oh well i live with it.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 05:24 AM
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I think I just got used to the seats in the 3G TL but at first I thought they were very uncomfortable. Somedays I just can't find a comfortable position
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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You didn't say which year your 3G TL was.

I have two of them, an '04 manual and an '05 automatic (the wife's). On long trips, the seats in my '04 tend to be more comfortable than those in the '05. You do have to work at finding the best position, since there are so many setups you can come up with.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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The seats look great but are very uncomfortable. Like sitting on hard wood after long trips. One of the most comfortable seats are in the Toyota trucks. Other than that, my Jeep had way more comfortable seats as well.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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My 07 type-s was bought to travel with. I go to florida couple times a year. The first time I drove there (20 hrs. straight) the seats were a nightmare. My back was messed up from them and my legs were cramping up also. I played with the lumbar and the seat bottom until I found comfort. Now the seat is so comfortable that I cant drive straight through anymore. The car puts me to sleep lol
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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i personally think they are comfortable even though i'm 6'2" and 165 pounds. i love how you can bring the steering wheel closer to you.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Yeah... Very important to take advantage of the tilt/telescoping wheel - as I found out on a 900+ mile roadtrip! Cranking in full lumbar & heat was a necessity on that trip.
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