kanishkl

He's got a very valid point. Most of you just cannot deal with reality and the fact that there are the poor, the middle class and the rich. So some people have it easier than others, deal with it - not everyone can get everything they want. Maybe he is a really good kid and for his parents, spending $35K is not much. Money and wealth is relative to one's financial position. For me, the people who have criticized this kid are the ones who need to go back to high school so that they can get together and enjoy their "b*tching" sessions. Or better yet, go to MTV and ask them to make a show about you guys, so that you can sound like the people on Laguna Beach or something.

Now back to the original question - as Layzie said, the BMW is definitely more fun to drive. The handling and general feel of the car is just unbeatable. I drive a 325i 6MT and have driven my friend's 330i 6MT as well. Both are a lot of fun to drive and you can really feel the pedigree of the car when going on long drives. The leather is of top quality, the audio system in the 330i (Logic7) is excellent, the steering wheel is nice and crisp, and the interior is simple yet effective. The TL is a car I really considered though. I really love the look of the car and a reason I would really buy it is because it seems one of a kind - not a design you can replicate. Furthermore, the navigation and the interior lighting is just amazing. It's so much fun to play around with. You can also improve on the TL's handling by upgrading your suspension over time and thus enjoy driving a little quicker around curvy roads more. The TL is also bigger and so the rear occupants can enjoy more leg room which also allows you to maintain a comfortable position in the driver's seat. When I have tall friends in my BMW I have to move up my seat sometimes. Nevertheless, given a choice I would def. have to go with the BMW. BMW Assist (something you get with the premium package) is really helpful and if you sign up for the concierge service you can make them book tickets, restaurants and/or hotels for you (among other things). There are also a lot of after market products starting to come out for the car now which is making owning it a very fun experience. At the end of the day I had to sit down and decide whether I wanted a car with which I could play around in or with which I could have fun driving in. I opted for the second because that is more important to me. Hope this helps, let us know what you decided on.

(One word of caution: Don't get the iDrive + Nav in the BMW - it sucks. I'd rather go with an aftermarket nav option if you need one at all).

drdamian

cathmag, if i were you and my parents wanted to buy me a car, def go with the G35 coupe and dump 30K into the engine... thats a hot car...

FightingTL

I still think that you're making a poor choice as your solo car. If the TL aspec was my only car I would not have purchased it. Too slow and uninspiring from a driving standpoint.

A_UFO

What is iDrive? Is that the Steptronic or Active Steering?
And why are you recommending to avoid the iDrive?

whatjones911

iDrive is the name of BMW's navigation system that many think is overly complicated to use

Da_iLLeZt_TL973

wow wat a thread....i guess some people are fortunate enough to be raised in a rich family so u really cant blame the kid...me lol i not so fortunate i dont even have a job and i manage to maintain my shit but watever go for the a-spec all the way its hot and luxurious mang go with the TL

arseny87

I have a TL, but i was in a friends 330CI with the performance package yesterday on stick and oooo boy is that car fun to drive. Definately go with that. He had the Mpackage which just made it that much nicer

kanishkl

The 330ci is the old e46 body style. He is looking at the E90 330i which is the new body style so you can't really compare the two. Furthermore, can't get the Mpackage on the e90.

MarbleGT

bottom line is, he'll never apprieciate the car as much as most of us do, putting all our hard earned cash in it.

asu_lee

Cathmag,

Good luck with your decision. Yes there are a lot of opinions here but take them with a grain of salt. You are blessed and don't forget that.

Leedog does have some good points though (and so do some of the others here).

Get what makes you happy and enjoy it.

Cheers!
-Lee

bibby

Which is true, but he'll probably appreciate a new 911 Turbo or SL55 or 645 later on when he has enough money to buy one. He's fortunate (in a good way), to start off with a BMW or a TL, while most of us here probably started with Civics or Corolla level cars. There's nothing wrong with it in being fortunate. At least he's not showing off about it.

YoungnTLDrivr

Well I'd like to know if this helped at all, how is it lookin as of now Cathmag.

Has this helped you any at all? If so, what are you leanin towards getting?

Rpappi

look at the TSX fun to drive factor is much higher than the TL.

trancemission

very true, he could be this guy....

pttl

Nah....That guy only has 10.5K. A TL is WAAAAYYYY more than that.

CUNextTuesday

hahahahahaha

I was reading that thread the other day - priceless.

Kennedy

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That's cute...
Lucky for all the haters out there, that guy will probably not be lucky enough see thirty. After a few busts these guys end up dead, in jail, or working in McDonald with thier flat brimmed G-Unit hat on sideways.

Thsi is silly... as stated earlier, I too had two choices... take the bus or get job. I'm doing exceptionally well now and have a garage full of toys, only at 31... but as a father, no way will my daughter be handed things like many of the kids here. It's irresponsible as a parent to put a totally inexpereinced driver behind the wheel of a 260+ HP car... You might as well make it a full house and throw in a Kawasaki 1400 sportbike too. Have fun with that.
It's exceptionally irresponsible as a parent to hand things to your kids without making them earn it. As a former Marine I sometimes wonder what the hell we're defending... but we all know America loves to hate spoiled rich kids.

Sucks that all the old crotchity guys feel the need to weigh in here, welcome to internet forums.

Good look with your new 330 kid, I hope you don't put it inthe ditch.

Dr.Murdock

i got my tl before i had a full licence

gdfthr

I would go with the TL. Lets be honest since Chris Bengel took over BMW's deisgn team the cars look like crap. Plus BMW's are over complicated electronical nightmares.

I love my 04 TL and am looking foward to upgrade depending on what happens with the 07's, unless they switch to AWD, then I will start looking elsewhere.

And just to continue the spoiled rants, my first car at 17 was a 99 Pontiac Grand Prix which my parents paid half for. By 18 I traded it in for a 2003 Chevy Trailblazer (I know, Big Mistake!) which I paid for myself. And at 19 I got my 04 TL, and again I am paying for it. Do I think I was spoiled by my parents? Absolutly. Even though I was able to afford my vehicles by running my parents business, I can say with absolute certinty that they spoiled the shit out of me with my first car. Because it wasn't until my father almost killed me due to my "I'm better than you are" attitude, that I realized the nicer things in life don't come easy, and you don't respect what you haven't had to bust your ass for.

kennyc

great first post! welcome!

asu_lee

Much wisdom here.....
-Lee

Tonywp75

Can someone provide me with that guy address? I need some $$ for my TL Mods...anyone want to come with me..LOL

gurneyeagle

Great comments.

I've made disparaging comments to some of the younger members regarding being "given" nice cars by their parents, which were really out of line. The comments should really be directed to the parents.

It's the total lack of responsibility shown by some of these "kids" that is troublesome, be it racing, ethical issues (screwing the dealerships), or just general knowldge about caring and driving for cars. I've seen way too many "little rich kids" kill themselves and innocent victims, by getting over their heads in a hot car.

You really appreciate something unless you work for it. That can be as simple as achieving good grades in school. Unfortunately. a lot of people today just throw money at their kids to:

a) keep up with the Jones; and

b) placate the guilt they feel for never spending time with their kids. The insecurity shown by parents these days is frightening.

As a parent, you really want to give your kids everything. The hard part is drawing the line between giving them what they want and what they need.

Enough of the social commentary!

Tripp11

Ahhh, the voice of reason...

RMATIC09

hes got a better chance to die in a 1976 civic then a 330i. Kids will drive fast regardless of the car their in, might as well be in a safe one.

CUNextTuesday

So true..at least he'll be in a car that can handle the speed. I used to drive a 99 Dodge Durango. I let my friend drive home from the shore cause I was passed out - that fuck hit 117 on the parkway I thought the wheels were gonna fall off.

gurneyeagle

Scary, truly scary.

trancemission

agreed

FL3.2TL

I didnt read the whole post cuz the damn thing is 8 pages butl Im 17 turning 18 in December, my first car was a 1994 Chrylser Concorde ( PEICE OF SHIT ), but that was my mothers old car at first. With my money I repainted the car, and put a system in there. Well now I got a 1999 TL, in perfect condition. Im now just hitting 70K. It was my aunts car and she sold it to me for 10G. My parents paid half, and now Im currently working paying the car off. Pops said that, if I dont pay at all, he takes the keys away.. Im working 30 Hours a week and all. So it all depends on the child too on how the child will be responsible..

imrantl

im not going to lie, i am spoiled and i admit. at age 17 i had a brand new 2005 4runner sport edition with every single option, and now at age 19 i have a 2006 tl. but cars were my interest ever since i was a kid

trancemission

:ibpttl:

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Wow, this thread went from gay to pathetic.

Now it's about "my friends have multiple 50+ grand cars."

Then what are YOU doing in a TL?

Yeah, I'm talking to you, ka0tik. Let's brag about friends' cars. That makes you look really cool.

But I suppose it can't be helped. You are, what, still in high school?

It's like a fight about who has the biggest cock, except you guys are talking about your friends' cocks.

MarbleGT

I think EVERYONE needs to STFU and get back on topic......its getting rediculous.

Tripp11

Yeah, nobody caught that the FIRST TIME you said it. Anything else you wanna brag about?

levon1830

Coming to soon to a theater near this thread: THE LOCK!!

levon1830

Oh yeah, and I would get the TL if I were in the OP's position.

imrantl

no need to brag about anything, just trying to get my point across

Tripp11

Really? I guess it's a big thread and you needed to get your point across TWICE that you first had a 2005 BLAH-BLAH-BLAH at age 17 and now you have a 2006 BLAH-BLAH-BLAH at age 19.

As*hat...

jmbnova

wow... Really and truly time to close this bastard down.... I think the original poster got the idea and his questions answered.....

Time to do the dance

trancemission

yeah, you're probably right. Thanks for all your input everyone.